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  1. Well, bully for you...but we have only your word for your 100% certainty. All the rest of we ignorant and outside the loop individuals have only the media reports on which to base our responses. I have been informed, and I am 100% certain that it is correct that Messi has expressed an interest in joining ICT at the sweetie level of income we can provide! Sheesh! But given that we have absolutely no idea what 100% of the income Tokely was receiving was, even if you do.....how do we know that 50% of his previous wage is not still silly money, given the ludicrous levels of football wages even for the most average of players? Not saying it is, btw...but why would we take your word for it? You have absolutely no reason to take my word for it. Please feel free not to. All I will say, is that I am not in the habit of making things up and have no reason to do so. Hope the board can secure the deal to bring Lionel to TCS next season. As things stand there is more hope of him wearing a jersey than there is Tokes............
  2. Offer is an insult designed for rejection and the avoidance of a repeat of the Granty scenario. What a way to treat a man that has given everything for the club? Suggest the level is around 50% of his current earnings. Is this the offer of a manager who wants to keep a player? Yet another bizarre move in a very bizarre season. And no I won't say who told me but I am 100% certain it is correct.
  3. Absolutely. It's not like should have any interest in investing in our youth, developing our own players and going about our business properly. Potential means nothing, use them and if they don't deliver success immediately, dump them and get in some more. We have more than enough money to keep frittering it away in pursuit of success and can carry on buying who we like or signing other people's cast offs in the hope they are better than ours. And while we're at it, forget all this 'community' *****, we have no need to engage or obligation to play any part in our locality. All we do is take. Remind me which one of the OF you aspire us to be? I would rather watch pub league football that I had some connection with than the Harlem Globe Trotter international Superstar English Non League Cast Off XI. Enough for me thanks.
  4. The decision as to who stayed and went made solely by TB and MM. Recommendations were made. Considered or ignored, depending on your opinion, and decisions made. Perhaps more worrying should be the apparent lack of talent in the Highland these days? Or am I just another one seeking to justify bizarre decisions? Inverness Croydon Thistle has a nice ring to it....
  5. The acceptance of the CVA is a hell of a long way from a foregone conclusion. Even if, in the highly unlikely event that HMRC were inclined to accept, can you imagine the consequences of the decision and the implications for the organisation going forward? Also, as I understand it the CVA can only apply to the Wee Tax Case (the known and acknowledged debt accrued under the Whyte tenure) and not the Big Tax Case which still has to be concluded. I ask myself why Green, or any other prospective owner would wish the CVA to be approved and the existing company continue to trade with the BTC shadow still to come? It's all a game with the known result of liquidation still to come. Green will be able to say 'I did my best' and the liabilities will be removed in totality. The final piece of the jigsaw will be the pay off to Craig Whyte for the removal of his charge over the key assets. If you listen to what is being said by DP, Green and the media, reference is continually made to Whyte not profiting from the transfer of his shares. At no point have any of them mention his position of strength which will still have to be dealt with. Therefore, the second question I ask myself is, why is Whyte now going to walk away ( they don't do walking away though do they?) with his tail between his legs and a position of morality? Of course he's not. He's waiting to get his pay off!
  6. Looking forward to signing a utility player of a similar calibre on a similar wage level. No chance! Good luck Procs. A thoroughly decent young man who always conducted himself in a first class manner and despite never being the best of players, never gave anything less than his all when he wore the shirt. Will definitely get himself a new club and there will be a hell of a lot worse who wear our colours in the future!
  7. Wigan are a great team SMEE! Play some fantastic football and don't winge. Martinez is a class act.
  8. Who mentioned caravans? Great post!
  9. It's not a bizarre argument at all - you give money to that team you sit in the stand at their end, I don't know if you cheer them on or whatever, but barely anyone at TCS really cheer the team on and I would assume they would consider themselves supporters. As I said you become a de facto supporter of that team whatever way you look at it (or 18 teams in your case). It's nothing to do with RC as such. Put it this way if Inverness was magically transported next to Govan I wouldn't understand it if ICT supporters started going to Ibrox for a game, like I said IMO it is supporting a team that is in direct opposition to my own and I don't understand that. I travel a lot and, wherever I go, I try to take in games if there are any. I sit wherever I can get a ticket for and generally, I applaud if I see good football irrespective of who it has come from. That's why I go, I love football. The above doesn't, for me, make me a supporter of any of the 40 odd teams I've seen this year. I know who I support and would prefer to see win. Would I rather watch ICT win one nil at home to Kilmarnock in a dire match or watch Wigan draw three each with Swanse in a feast of flowing football? No contest. football wins every time. For some this makes me a lesser supporter. For me it gives me a greater knowledge of the game and the ability to see it for what it is, particularly when it's played the way it should be. Football nowadays is, in my opinion, full or punters who have no objectivity and little subjectivity. Blindly following irrespectively, unable to see merit in anything other than what they support. Not for me and never has been. Football is what I really support I suppose and I keep my dislike for rugby and cricket, my hate for Nick Griffin, David Cameron and Danny Alexander! As I said if you go and pay to watch a team with some kind of regularity (which makes you a suppporter IMO) that are in direct opposition to us I don't understand that. If you go to a different random game based purely on where you are working then IMO that doesn't necessarily make you a supporter. For example if I was woking in Glasgow for a week and was very bored and wanted to watch some live football I'd maybe go and watch a Queens Park or Partick Thistle game, but I would never go to a Rangers/Celtic game they are our direct opposition and I wouldn't want to support them financially (or otherwise). This is why I cannot understand why ICT supporters would go to Victoria Park next season. Nothing to do with you being percieved as a 'lesser supporter' just a different kind I suppose. Perhaps a kind that I just can't fully comprehend. I would rather watch ICT win in a crappy game than a fantasic Man Utd v Man City 2-2 game. For you the game is more important than the team, for me the team comes first. Though obviously I'd love to watch ICT win through playing exciting and entertaining football. As for hating those 3 guys, you'll get no argument from me! Fraz This afternoon reminded me why I am a football fan first and foremost. How can anyone not like football? Pissing rain all day and sat glued to the telly watching. Some great stuff played by Celtic (Hearts were awful and I think Hibs could beat them next week) but the rest of the day was ridiculous. The end of the EPL, winning, losing, goals, red cards, up, down and all the rest was ridiculous. And I can safely say, I support nobody involved! Great day of football which reminds me just how important the Euros are going to be in filling a huge void over the summer. Reminder to self: Remember to look out my France, Sweden and Ukraine tops.
  10. It's not a bizarre argument at all - you give money to that team you sit in the stand at their end, I don't know if you cheer them on or whatever, but barely anyone at TCS really cheer the team on and I would assume they would consider themselves supporters. As I said you become a de facto supporter of that team whatever way you look at it (or 18 teams in your case). It's nothing to do with RC as such. Put it this way if Inverness was magically transported next to Govan I wouldn't understand it if ICT supporters started going to Ibrox for a game, like I said IMO it is supporting a team that is in direct opposition to my own and I don't understand that. I travel a lot and, wherever I go, I try to take in games if there are any. I sit wherever I can get a ticket for and generally, I applaud if I see good football irrespective of who it has come from. That's why I go, I love football. The above doesn't, for me, make me a supporter of any of the 40 odd teams I've seen this year. I know who I support and would prefer to see win. Would I rather watch ICT win one nil at home to Kilmarnock in a dire match or watch Wigan draw three each with Swanse in a feast of flowing football? No contest. football wins every time. For some this makes me a lesser supporter. For me it gives me a greater knowledge of the game and the ability to see it for what it is, particularly when it's played the way it should be. Football nowadays is, in my opinion, full or punters who have no objectivity and little subjectivity. Blindly following irrespectively, unable to see merit in anything other than what they support. Not for me and never has been. Football is what I really support I suppose and I keep my dislike for rugby and cricket, my hate for Nick Griffin, David Cameron and Danny Alexander!
  11. Highlanders don't wear bandages Terry. Remember that!
  12. It's an age thing! I never had any rivalry with County. HL football was what we watched all over the place and we had a big team who we travelled to occasionally. Can't really create a rivalry that was not there for me. If me paying money to a club to watch a game involving teams I don't support makes me a supporter..........(bizarre argument to be honest) then, this season alone, I am a supporter of about 18 different teams! Why do so many find it hard to understand that it's football that some enjoy first and foremost? Banter next. I'll the rival hatred stuff to others.
  13. That prudent fiscal action was to transfer the debt and stadium to a "newco". My argument is that the actual mechanism is the same. yes, we did not owe people all over the country, it wasn't a debacle, it wasn't done at the very last minute to save the club - all I am saying is that the mechanism that Rangers are suggesting is basically the same as we used to remove the stadium debt from our books. Gabby As Yngwie states, realising cash (for any purpose from day to day trading, debt reduction or acquisition for example) is common practice throughout business. Exactly what ICT did. The fact that it was perceived as a 'last minute deal' is more to do with egos and brinkmanship than necessity. Unless Green and Whyte (how much would they have hated it if West Ham's David Gold had become involved!) can get a CVA agreed, deal with the WTC, the BTC and all other accrued debts, Rangers will be liquidated and debt left everywhere. Even if, in the hugely unlikely event that a deal can be reached, debts will still not be honoured in full. In no way comparable with anything done by ICT.
  14. It's nonsense to describe him as 'beyond the SPL in terms of quality' at this point. He has potential but nothing more at this point and would hardly register as a leading CB in a survey of all fans who watch the top league. Appreciate our game is not the best but Roman certainly didn't look like he was playing at a level beneath him at any point this season. If anything, at times, the converse was true. Wish him well for the future and thank him for his efforts. He can say thanks to us for his wages and the opportunity to play at a much higher level than he has ever played previously!
  15. When you say get behind OUR team. Who do you mean in your case? Yawwwn funny I keep getting asked this despite attending more home games than most on here including a number of mods It never fails to amaze me how many cyber fans this club has that rarely show up yet spout their nonsense and undying love of the club on here Like it or not I'm Nottingham Forest and ICT although I seriously am questioning the latter with some of the roasters on here Dougal I only missed 1 home game this season, do I pass the Dougal barometer of supporterdom? I wanted RC to be promoted and I hope they stay up along with us for seasons to come. Benefits us both financially and interms of support. People can dislike County if they want as much as they want, helps fuel the fire and makes things more interesting, I've lost could of the folk who've said that they can't wait for the ICT v RC games next season (from both sides of the bridge). You might be happy to go and watch RC play but I certainly would not and I would imagine 99.9% of ICT would feel the same. If I felt the need to take in some different footie I'd go to watch Inverness City or perhaps even a Clach game but I don't get thinking behind going to watch RC as an ICT supporter. The only time I will be going to Dingwall for a game will be to support ICT in a thorough thrashing of travelling people. Think you are way out on your percentage analysis Fraz. Perhaps it might reflect the CTO membership (probably not in my opinion) but in no way does in provide a balance of our support or County's. I am well aware of many people who regularly visit both grounds although have a preference for one or the other. Reckon there will be plenty, especially older fans, who buy season tickets for both grounds in the hope of having an SPL match at home every Saturday. I'm not one of the County haters either. Hope they do well against all but ICT. Want to see Highland football really cemented into theScotiish game and make treks up and down the A9 even more painful for our friends. I will also take in games at Dingwall no doubt. Love my football, especially when it's played properly. The game will always come first for me. If it's played best by my team, that's a bonus!
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