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A lot is being made of the Rangers kid applauding the decision ... I see it a little differently (although I could be wrong). Look at the kid's face when the whistle is blown. He is thinking 'oh f***' and probably wondering if he is getting a card or if the ref maybe thinks its in the box and is going to give a penalty. The applause is a little self-serving i think and based on relief not on bad sportsmanship. However, knowing the player was going to get a red it may have been more sportsmanlike to say to the ref - 'i did catch him, but it was an accident' but lets face it, no player is going to do that these days. none. regardless of the strip they are wearing. Would be nice if Rangers could say something through the club to side with Keatings but again, cant see that happening. At best the ref is incompetent - something backed up if you search google for his name - but for the panel to uphold the original decision is not incompetent it is something far worse. Who is on these panels? Why cant we know who is on it? If you are going to make a decision that will deprive a player of appearing in a cup final at least have the f***ing balls to stand up and be counted and say why you came to that decision.4 points
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Sad to see the young Rangers player applaud the ref when he showed the red card though?4 points
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Even this long lapsed former contributor feels motivated to return briefly to respond, having belatedly watched the video after learning of the decision and reading Scott Gardiner’s excellent statement. A more obvious instance of a push than by the Rangers player is difficult to imagine, and how anyone outwith the Orange Lodge and capable of regarding that as a dive is allowed to referee at any level at all is one of life’s great mysteries. Then you have to start worrying very seriously about the competence of any governing body which can find not just one but three individuals gormless enough to agreewith this enormous howler. The next part of the narrative is more difficult to make stand up because it is easy to deny. However it is abundantly clear that the overwhelming presence of decisions of all kinds made by Scottish football’s governing bodies and favouring the Old Firm place that allegation well beyond doubt. Add in the frequency of complaints about referees and even take a chunk off to allow for managerial paranoia and the competence of Scottish officiating must be added to these charges of institutionalised Old Firm bias and governing body ineptitude. However I have a feeling that even something as outrageous as this will still be ignored by the Scottish football establishment which will carry on regardless as the game it is ruining continues to spiral into the ground.4 points
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The majority of news stories now seem to be based on a few tweets. Not belittling the petition but the other day the P & J ran a story online about ICT fans fuming about the Scottish Cup Q/F kick off time and the article was just a couple of embedded tweets. Anything for clicks these days. ETA: 1.1 million views of the clip on the ICT Twitter feed now. Certainly get a load of exposure and making the SFA look like utter arses3 points
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It's now national coverage even Gary liniker has seen the video and commented it wasn't a dive and Keatings shouldn't be missing a final for this. The SFA really have shot themselves in the foot here and 're becoming internationally ridiculed for this absurd decision.3 points
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I don't think the decision was a case of protecting the referee. I was interested to note that at the same appeals session, Hamilton's appeal against Jamie Hamilton's red card against Hearts was upheld. In that case I think the panel applied a bit of common sense, but it was a far less straightforward one than Keatings'. In Hamilton's case the ball clearly did hit his arm but it did not appear to be deliberate and the contact resulted in Hamilton having less control of the ball. Nevertheless, you can understand why the referee gave Hamilton a red card. One might argue the panel should not have upheld that appeal because it is perhaps not obvious that the referee made an error. That to me makes that decision to be a sensible common sense one. In the Keatings' case there surely is an obvious error. Dickson clearly makes no attempt to play the ball. He doesn't even have his eyes on the ball; he has his eyes on Keatings. You can see him lean into Keatings and give Keatings a nudge and you can see the impact of that nudge on Keatings. It is a clear and obvious foul. I also think it was clearly an intentional foul both because Dickson made no attempt to go for the ball and because he applauded the referee's decision. Had he realised he had been beaten to the ball and was genuinely trying to avoid the collision, he would not have done that knowing there actually was contact. Not only should the appeal panel have upheld the appeal, they should have referred Dickson to the Compliance Officer. This seems to me a clear case of the SFA punishing a player for the remarks the manager made. Yet again the SFA have demonstrated that their disciplinary processes are not fit for purpose.3 points
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The club have taken pelters in the past for bullshit or nonsense statements, but this one is an absolute belter. Nailed every word of it from start to finish. Extreme credit where it is absolutely due on this occasion to shame those who made the decision. I can only conclude incompetence or corruption in this decision. If its incompetence then resignations should follow ..... but I wont hold my breath on that one.3 points
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I have watched the clip about a hundred times just to see if there is anything I’m missing. But no. It’s just a totally baffling decision by ref, never mind the review panel. Even if the ‘panel’ had also thought it wasn’t a free kick (which it clearly was) was James Keatings’ actions really worthy of a yellow card? A yellow card!! Utterly shambolic decision. Fine And ban Robbo for his comments afterwards if you must. But Christ almighty, let a guy who has been fouled and wronged play in a cup final.3 points
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Apologies if someone has already suggested this but if Keatings does not get to play couldn't we all take big (like the size of cards we were given for the Scottish cup) red cards stating "show SFA the red card - Justice for Keatings" to the final. Name them and shame them. I'd be happy to chip in towards the costs.2 points
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Petition has gathered that much ground, the P&J have picked up on it...either that or it's a stupidly slow news day2 points
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Let's all do this and share. Strikes right at the heart of sporting integrity and the reputation of our national game. Let's start a revolution. We're all James Keatings.2 points
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http://chng.it/ZNpJH9RwP5 link to a petition to get The red card recinded please sign and share.2 points
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Incredible to see the number of high profile (ex) players, pundits etc coming out to criticise this decision. The SFA have made themselves to be a total laughing stock with this decision but, as others have said, this has clearly been done to stick two fingers up at Robbo after what he said post match.2 points
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Tremendous statement from our Chairman and Chief Exec. Night and day when compared with the drivel spouted by our previous regime. Hardly worth commenting on the decision. Par for the course from the SFA but hats off to them for reaching a whole new level of incompetence and corruption.2 points
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There is absolutely no chance of Boris getting involved as he is a pal of Douglas Ross1 point
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and your point is exactly?? You and a few other people seem to think it was given against us because we were playing Rangers, well Rangers have had plenty of decisions against them too. Sheer incompetance from the ref but the panel is a different story.1 point
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We didn't. As the club engaged the services of the right people it got thrown out before it ever got to the stage where the mass support/outrage may have influenced any decision makers. I was part of the team representing Josh that day (although my contribution ended up not being required), so I was sitting in the room and can attest to that. Had that initial play failed, then the weight of support may have helped...and if there's any faint hope of changing things for James...or failing that changing the system...then everyone needs to speak up.1 point
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It's shame the Oscars have just been, because if that's acting, Keatings would have walked it1 point
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As a referee, he may find that in the next few games, supporters on both sides, mock him. The SFA have hung him out to dry which is understandable given the weather conditions on Sunday.1 point
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I'm also very heartened to see public displays of support from executives at other clubs for the statement- namely the excellent Alan Burrows at Motherwell and Leanne Dempster at Hibs.1 point
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I agree with all that's been said and sadly nothing will change What we now have to do is get right behind the team that plays in the final where ever it may be and help them bring the cup back to Inverness1 point
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Supporters Trust is right behind the club on this one. Well done to the Chairman and CEO for their courageous statement today!1 point
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Who ever drafted that official club statement spoke for us all and did so very eloquently. Very well said indeed.1 point
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Normally our club statements leave me utterly mortified but tonights is outstanding. Utterly magnificent take down of the SFA.1 point
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Somewhat ironic that these clowns want to introduce VAR to Scottish football and yet, we now have a decision that VAR would easily have overturned, being upheld by those in charge. Mental.1 point
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The panel aren't even in the same room when they hold these fast track appeals they use video link to speak to each other.0 points
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I think the red card was originally given because we were playing Rangers, and said as much at the time. I think that the panel have decided to back the ref. I don’t think that’s because we were playing Rangers. Yes, our refs are incompetence, but there is often a direction to that incompetence when either side of the Old Firm are involved-1 points
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