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2 hours ago, STFU said:

Unsecured loans, so they can shout all they want for the money, if we don't have it they can't get it.

High chance we're facing administration anyway, so they'd get nothing back then either.

I'd rather cut the cancer and take a chance on recovery than continue to let it slowly kill us.

And who picks up the poison chalice of running the club? Easy part is to demand change but I don't see a rush of people looking to take things over

13 minutes ago, Robert said:

Billy Mckay still captain despite Sean Welsh starting.

A bit surprised Ujdur is just on the bench. 

Keeping him fit for an impending January sale? We’ve been looking at a number of defensive players and perhaps indicates cashing in.

Game showed where we have been the last few years with a lack of cutting edge up front. The loss of Wotherspoon removes quality and when Billy is removed we are left with nothing.

A process is underway to change how the team plays and unlike under Dodds there is a point to the way we are playing but lack quality in some areas to make a difference. Time is needed to bed in the changes and you could see some of the frustration from Duncan at some points.

Shaw is a major weakness due to him lack of football awareness and having Carson back may allow a change to a more flexible shape than we have been playing since he dropped out.

Nice to see a team that looks coached and has a bit of identity about how they are trying to play after the past seasons of drifting along. Still a work in progress but also nice to not feel the urge to fall asleep  

3 minutes ago, big cherly said:

Says it all really Satan, what a sorry state we are in when we’re so crap the chairman is immune from criticism or has no fear of any challenge to his position cause no one would touch it with a barge pole.  
Doesn’t fill me with much enthusiasm when it comes round to him assessing the Trust match experience survey recommendations. 
Hay Ho, least we won the Snecky Cup! 
bc

 

Solution is easy. You just need to invest a chunk of cash, say £1m and you can appoint your own Chairman.

We are in a sorry state and the fact is there are people behind the scenes who have had to put their hands in their pockets to keep the club afloat. Wrong decisions get made when you’re between a rock and a hard place.

On the park we are suffering from an average set of players and average coaches. One of these need to be improved to move forward and both have a potential cost impact.

Have to say however that the current approach of alienating the support seems unlikely to be helpful 

Indeed however we should not let individual defensive errors hide the bigger picture.

The difference in the level of coaching between the two teams was stark with Queens having a clear basis to their play hence the ease they could play out from the back. In addition our press is amateur and you feel for the front two chasing around to find that the defenders always had an easy pass. Again standard of coaching.

We had four very good chances to score and executed none. The same lack of cutting edge up front which has affected us for much of the past seasons. Easy game in some ways. Stop the opposition scoring and score at the other end. Too often we create early chances and don’t score only to fall behind and chase the game.

Early in the season and form may pick up however……

Partick chocking but was never a penalty. VAR correct to overturn red card though

Begs the question what Robbo is now doing. Rumour was the the board tried to offload him to cut costs but he was retained to cover the commercial side. 

5 hours ago, lizi said:

I was told that Ryan Esson has more training tickets than Dodds, Kells and Wilson together, not just goalkeeping but all players,  and he’s doing a great job with the under 18s.  Could he and Ross Tokely not do a better job between now and the end of the season, given the chance (if they want to), than the aforementioned three.   

Just a thought! 

 

 

 

 

 

Suspect Tokely is having too much fun playing in the Highland League

2 minutes ago, buckett said:

Glorified??

I was being polite

Run like a glorified pub team is closer to the mark

6 hours ago, Jaggernaut said:

I also thought the situation with Ridgers was strange, you really only send your reserve keeper out to warm up, if there seems to be an injury problem with the on field keeper. We had a collective,  'ooooooo' moment in the stand, when it happened, and someone stated that Dodds was trying to display a show of strength! Was it because Ridgers never saved the goal? Because it was right after we conceded, if it was, it isn't good for team morale, these are things that should be kept in house, back in the dressing room

The issue was that Ridgers launched the ball up the pitch straight to the opposition keeper and Dodds was not impressed with losing the ball so easily. Straight afterwards the goal was scored.

2 hours ago, Robert said:

No Devine: has his hernia issue flared up? MacGregor back in. 
 

https://twitter.com/ICTFC/status/1578446523758940162/photo/1

Devine is on crutches

Good 1st half and end to the game.

Dodds didn’t react to the change in formation when Vigurs came on at half time and the extra man in the middle exploited the space between the defence and midfield.

The 3rd goal steadied things particularly after Cove made further changes which helped both defence and midfield.

Many positives but we need to lose the habit of losing control of games including when the opposition makes changes.

Cammy could have done better with the first goal but to be fair it was a shot which moved from one side of him to the other quickly and these can catch even top keepers out.

Bewildered how some are blaming him for the second goal however and this is just deflecting criticism from the defence in not holding a line or dealing with nothing more than a simple lump forwards

Was there any point in red carding Campbell if he is allowed to effectively still sit in the dugout?

Good cushion from Mckay

Time for a change of full coaching team.

Blaming the officials deflects from our failings.

We are a team which huff and puff but lack quality and cutting edge.

Is this a football forum?

7 hours ago, Caledonianfc1885 said:

Maybe its not a case of grasping reality , maybe more like not knowing the facts. Does anyone really believe that a club of our size has ever budgeted or even spent 400k per year on youth. Our biggest youth operating costs are the wages of the so called heads of the Youth Development and Academy.  Whilst these Heads command a sizable wage the rest of the coaching staff are volunteers and receive token recompense for their efforts. I applaud the business(people) who have recently contributed 10's of thousands £  to our youth initiative. However I very much  doubt their donations were for  altruistic reasons more so to act  as leverage for their imminent  re-election to the board and also aid their off-springs progression through the system. 

Each year group has a paid full time coach in line with Project Brave. Some overlap in past years with players also coaching.

Sounds like season may be stuttering to a stop already with 7 staff at St Mirren testing positive and increased testing instructed for all Premier League clubs.

Thought Nicola had single handed eliminated the virus!??

28 minutes ago, IBM said:

No idea but depending on the rules on social distancing when we are allowed back we might have to space out and not be able to sit in our own seat 

Given recent trends in attendance I think social distancing is already in place

21 minutes ago, Scotty said:

 Another thing that could be suggested - maybe it has been, I dont know - is to have a 'beer garden' or perhaps a 'social distance section' to make it more current !! At TFC we also only have 3 stands !! You have your allocated seat, in my case in the South Stand, but you are free to move to the North End and mingle with other fans, stand to watch the game or have a beer in the beer garden...... guessing we could not get away with the beer garden, but an area with unallocated seating/terracing might be an option ? If the rules dont allow it then we work to change those rules ... while we are in the championship I believe we are allowed standing areas .... ? 

There is a very strong argument to move away from the current restrictive environment around alcohol for all but the high risk games (e.g. Old Firm, etc). Having a more social feel around this area is not the full answer but a more balanced approach to this will certainly assist.

I’m assuming that if the courts rules to cancel promotion and relegation that Uncle Roy will tell Dundee Utd, Raith and Cove to accept their medicine 

53 minutes ago, MorayJaggie said:

Contain losses how? Players will be on contracts in next couple of months on full pay. No option of furlough from August to october. Costs to maintain back room, coaching staff etc still there but no income from ticket sales etc. Spfl ludicrously. Why couldn't they have had a deal in place to live stream games with pay per view just like the first two games will be in october and free to season ticket holders. This would have generated income without the need for stewarding etc at the ground. It makes no sense. Could you imagine another business saying right guys we technically can open now but are going to keep all the staff on full wages but not open to sell any stock or provide any services. 

?? Furlough is available till 31st Oct with tapering off from August