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As said before if the club want him to go then pay off his contract to terminate it and not try force him out via the press and turn fans against him. Evolving the squad is not the problem it's how we conduct our business with guys who have been professional throughout.

If that's the case then while not expected it's certainly honourable considering the position of the club financially and given it seems these unsustainable contracts in place with some current players and debts owed to ex-staff which are on going and of that regiemes own making. Facts and figures on this should be more transparent and better communicated.

Not suggesting anyone feels 'sorry' for OFW or Foran or any others. But the club were only too happy to offer these guys the contracts they did - why should these guys now be berated for seeing out their contracts? These guys are not 'staff' as such at the club like regular employees in corporations - they are given a contract for X wks/months/years with specific terms and conditions most including penalties if they break these but also include the right of the club to sell these assets on the market. If the player has to abide and see the T&C's of the contract out so should the club - in both the cases mentioned if the club do want rid then pay up the cash to an agreeable amount between both parties - otherwise find a way to utilise the assets in an effective manner and stop trying to 'force' players (OFW/Raven/Draper/Warren) out the door in the manner they have. When we have a scenario where the player wants to leave - such as Tansey and the club block this or cant negotiate a deal we blame the player and say its their fault not wanting be at the club. When the club decide to get rid of a player we say its the player that's greedy not walking away. Whether this or the previous regime neither board seem to be covering themselves in glory with the way business is conducted. If that's the case, then pay out his contract and release him - don't go to the media trying to force him. If he can get regular football for the same or better money I'm sure he will go but if he cant then he has every right to sit out the next 12 months and take every penny his contract allows.

He is well within his rights to sit and see out his contract which is legally binding and was agreed by the club. He has no obligation to look for another club or walk away. This is going to be another embarrassment same as Raven last season who was cast out then brought back and OFW who was in and out like the hokey-cokey. For a club that is known to struggle with recruitment of established players or those experienced from elsewhere in Scotland doing such business in public will not go un-noticed. Refresh is acceptable, as is removing 'deadwoood' and under-achievers but it all has to be done the right way. If the club want GW out then pay off his contract or reach a settlement mutually agreeable, otherwise have the discussions behind closed doors and keep it that way - with those who are brave enough to make these calls need to be aware that if GW stays they need to get back to the table and maximise what he can bring to the club in whatever capacity can be accommodated and agreed.

In addition to none of them probably favouring a return. Certainly not Draper due to how he was moved on last summer.

The fact he left our club for Aberdeen with a hernia issue and needed surgery is a big part of his issue. Not the only player in recent years to need rehab at other clubs - perhaps we never saw his best consistently as he was never fully fit and we played patched up players.

Agree with that to an extent. Also I think Storey would do well at Championship level but surprised PT let him go. Never really got a fair go at the dons then was in and out of that struggling PT side - wouldn't be a shock to see him head back South as I only think teams outside the top tier in Scotland would give him a chance much like Fisher who seems in a similar situation.

But significant enhancement of the bank accounts. Footballers play for money mainly now and not the lure of trophies or loyalty.

All this has the same taste as last season with Raven and OFW - find a club and go or walk.away from the contract the club had committed to. If he doesn't go will frozen out or brought back in? Gary is a professional and I'm sure will give his all but I expect that like OFW if he refuses to walk and is unwanted he will come under criticism. As a club we seem to be paying unwanted members of staff a lot of money these days.

Don't forget Draper - his exit wasn't exactly a sweet parting either

Might not be quite so congratulatory if Storey gets some games and finds his shooting boots at this level giving PT the 20 goal a season striker every team wants

With a lower budget and more even and competitive teams than even last season there's no doubt its going to be tough. Wonder what the club strategy will ne next season if we fail to get promotion, if there is one as I'd expect more cut backs. The resounding mess last summer and not have our house in order may well come back to haunt us.

God knows why you've been given a red dot for that.

Mulraney has over the last 2 years unfortunately failed to improve, when the Premiership may have been to high a level he hasn't lit up the Championship either. Blistering pace but lack of final product lets him down. Might be a coup for Hearts if they can introduce technical skills and worth the gamble at their level - pace isn't something you can teach but technique is, its whether he has the temperament to learn it. From what we've seen the money may be better used elsewhere. Vigurs has patchy form but over the tail end of the season did show that he is an asset, but if the decision comes down to money then we cant compete with RC and as an individual he has to do his best for his family. He's not a player that cant be replaced and I think given time Trafford may be the man who steps into those shoes. The biggest loss this summer (so far) but we should still be able to progress over last season. Those citing Polly to leave then its not a huge loss. He's had a significant number of games over the years and at times looks lost on the park. While capable of lighting up games it doesn't happen often enough, perhaps we need to find him a position that suits him. I'm not sure he's a central mid as he doesn't track back so its whether he would be better further forwards as a number 10 but then does that suit our formation. We have given him much more game time than any other youngsters over the last 5 years and I'm not sure he is delivering on the early promise - he needs to step up more and show his real ability otherwise he will end up spending much of his career jobbing along like many Scottish players in the Championship.

They can invest however they want, if that's what Roy wants to do, I'm sure if we had done the same last year nobody would have been complaining. They will undoubtedly have a clear out of some players and try bring new faces in - the nucleus of their squad no matter what some may think should be strong enough to get play-offs at least - just as our should have been this season

You've been on here long enough to know its the ICT fan way - never see the issues at present, never want to look forwards and only to reminisce with rose tinted specs craving for former players/managers/board members to return us to the glory days................ We've signed a few young players from other clubs who have experience at Championship level or higher along with tying some of the existing squad on longer deals - with the added youth then there really isn't a lot of more additions likely or needed. With the departure of Vigurs a strong midfield enforcing player would be great, but we have Trafford who deserves a chance. Probably need another experienced CD as I'm not sure we will get a full season out of Warren. Other than that its adding the right strength and depth rather than just throwing names around now - up front a 20 goal striker would be great but doubt we can afford one, we already have Austin & Oakley so perhaps theres already one in the squad!!!

Much like a large proportion of our support who like to live in denial and chastise anyone who is critical or the clubs financial structuring and the board that steer it.

Doesn't help when he left with injuries like several other ICT players, makes you wonder how patched they were playing for us at times and maybe some of our demise was not having a squad of fully fit guys. With our record of collecting injuries and players such as Foran, Doran, Fisher, Tansey, Meekings, Mckay all needing treatment either at the club long term of ops and rehabilitation on leaving, there must be a link back to our medical/backroom team or training methods. For Tansey, he needs a run of games in a team when he is fit to get back to his best.

I'd like to see us use the loan system efficiently to strengthen positions we are weak and complement the mix we need of experienced/higher quality players and youth as a back up. Guys on the fringes of their parent clubs who 'may' be willing to take a step back and play Anthony Ralston - RB - a position we need to cover - he went to DUtd this season, but perhaps he is too close to full fitness now Scott Wright - seems to struggle to get anywhere near a start at the Dons El Bahktoui - lit up the lower leagues but struggles at Dundee Realistically there will be a raft of players released over the coming weeks & months which given we already know the level we are playing at will give time to try get our work done early doors.

Why are you so excited to see RC get relegated or fail? There's no logic to it at all - its detrimental to the local economy for both Dingwall & Inverness as both home & travelling fans spend money in either location including over night stays. The media coverage keeps the Highlands promoted, even if it is limited- but most of all cements and justifies why Highland teams and Highland League teams are still capable of competing in the professional leagues - even at the highest level. While I am not a County fan and would never get excited about them doing well, or even justify the business model Roy has put in place along with his personal cash, I do recognise the input into youth development facilities and the standards or players & manager he has tried (with limited success) to bring into the area. With at least one Highland team in the Premiership it allows higher profile players which like it or not the other club can at times feed off - 'rejects' as some may classify but often successes that cross the 'divide'. While the derby would be great to have back, I think all agree it would be much more beneficial for all concerned and the wider economy & community if it was in the Premiership.

Also the not too insignificant investment that the club made last season to back Jack Ross and did so again in the summer. This success from St Mirren hasn't just happened with the squad that was there 24 months ago - 7 new players were brought in last Jan to steer them from relegation (most were Premiership experienced players) with some getting deals in the summer and other additions. We on the other hand are cutting costs and likely to replace some of our experienced & more capable squad with cheaper/lesser ability options due to the mis-management from previous regimes.

No point trying to argue, there's so many fans who always see that an ex-ICT manager or player (if in favour) can never do wrong or be criticised, in some ways like OF fans they are always happy if its a 'club man'. Being objective, we performed well in the final third of the season and won the Challenge Cup, but the key target should have been Promotion or at least Play-off's - there wasn't an extended cup run in either competition and in both we went out meekly to opponents who were no better than us. The start of the season was awful with the first third embarrassing given our budget and playing quality, the 2nd third was an improvement but while we stopped conceding it was hardly a substantial points total accumulated. While there's not calls for Robbo to leave or be replaced it has to be acknowledged as a poor season, some of it from the mess the board created but also from appointing a manager who has been out of the game so long. Some may see that as an excuse or reason but Robbo knew as did the board the status and expectations they had taken on. Only the biggest 'fanboys' can think that for the relegated team with the quantity of Premiership experience we have and the playing budget finishing where we have is still a successful season. Those citing it as a good stepping stone for next year need to understand the financial situation and the levels of player we will loose and have to replace - promotion or play-offs next year may be a bigger challenge than the one just past.

TBH, he partially had a point - given our defence was honking for much of the first 1/3 of the season and leaking like a sieve. Also the stats of only an we were sitting with 6 wins in 22 games, 3 off against Brechin and 11 of the goals scored which by early March was 26 games with 31 goals for and only 8 wins for our 31 points. Its clear that the 2nd third wasn't a whole lot better. Its not until this last run of 10 games have seen any real stability or improvement. Surely the priority for any manager coming in should have been competing for the title with being in the play-offs a minimum requirement. While still possible its unlikely and just papering over cracks - we have been poorer than acceptable for much of the season. Would others have done better - probably, but given the mess the board made of handling players and management during the summer we probably didn't have the time and stability nor the cash ultimately to recruit the best candidate opting for a cheap but safe option.

Least relevant comment TBH. People on here sound like OF fans

Some of the long-winded posts on here are just a frustration to read - often they have lots of words but no real meaning or content - I think some really do like to try demonstrate or give the impression of intellect through these in a manner that most politicians would be jealous of. Regarding Administration - yes the big A word. I have no affiliation to Caley D or anyone else but given its been mentioned, it wouldn't be a surprise for the following reasons and most astute fans will see it too No longer in the Premiership, so prize monies & revenue are down and going to drop further next season Players on high wages probably outwith any sensible model for the club given its position - OFW, Doran, Warren, Mulraney, Tremarco & possibly Vigurs & Polly - not their fault and perhaps some did take cuts but these are/were Premiership quality players at last contract renewals/awards Paying out wages to ex-employees - for how long did we pay Hughes (12 months?) and we see with Foran he still has 2 years on his deal to run if the 4 years was accurate - if he's not being paid then somewhere a lump sum was found The way previous players were shipped or forced out - Raven, Draper and OFW (although he never left) - any means necessary to cut costs The board have already stated this season we have minimum £400k losses We have ever falling attendances and the previous team form, on pitch product and general lack of engagement is driving fans away The behind the scenes board movements & dealings - what financial costs have these involved with parties Add all those above together doesn't and wouldn't lead to any surprises of financial troubles if not now, heading there in the near future