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The show is now a p1ssing competition for the judges. Last night....Cowell said Rachel sang the best on the sing off (not the hardest thing to do given the circumstances) so he SHOULD have put her thro, but never. So...he broke his own rules there. Mackes a mockery of the show. Its plainly not about talent!

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The show is now a p1ssing competition for the judges. Last night....Cowell said Rachel sang the best on the sing off (not the hardest thing to do given the circumstances) so he SHOULD have put her thro, but never. So...he broke his own rules there. Mackes a mockery of the show. Its plainly not about talent!

Not for Cowell it isn't anyway.

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I look forward to seeing dead the relatives being dragged out. They might sing better than the twins, and Lloyd.

It'll happen...... dug up and stuck in the front row.... or perhaps, more tastefully, a simple urn on the stage.

Vote for the twins :P :banana99:

Reminds of of the cinema scene from "An American Werewolf in London " :D

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The show is now a p1ssing competition for the judges. Last night....Cowell said Rachel sang the best on the sing off (not the hardest thing to do given the circumstances) so he SHOULD have put her thro, but never. So...he broke his own rules there. Mackes a mockery of the show. Its plainly not about talent!

Not really, I have to disagree.

There was no point of keeping her in, it's not always about the voice. She was in the sing off 3 times so obviously the public didn't take to her. No one who has been in the sing off has ever won the X factor. She would never of sold singles if she couldn't keep out of the bottom two. Keeping her in would have been the wrong thing to do! She would have been in the bottom 2 next week and it would have been wrong to do that to her again.

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The show is now a p1ssing competition for the judges. Last night....Cowell said Rachel sang the best on the sing off (not the hardest thing to do given the circumstances) so he SHOULD have put her thro, but never. So...he broke his own rules there. Mackes a mockery of the show. Its plainly not about talent!

Not really, I have to disagree.

There was no point of keeping her in, it's not always about the voice. She was in the sing off 3 times so obviously the public didn't take to her. No one who has been in the sing off has ever won the X factor. She would never of sold singles if she couldn't keep out of the bottom two. Keeping her in would have been the wrong thing to do! She would have been in the bottom 2 next week and it would have been wrong to do that to her again.

Totally agree wiuth that, she should have been gone 2 weeks ago though, and not Rikki.

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A total farce tonight , Simon has slated Jedward from day one & rightly so & what does he do ?

copped out & left it for the public vote , what a joke , i cant understand why he didnt get shot of them , i along with many really thought they'd go tonight

How that numpty Loui could defend them over Lucie is another Joke .

The show is all about the judges & getting one up on each other .

Singing talent doesnt come into it

Lucie is one of the best this year , an absolute disgrace she's out

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I just don't understand why people watch mind numbing trash like this and programmes like Jeremy Kyle which are no more than symptoms of the manner in which this country has steadily slid down the pan in recent years. Worse still those same people seem to become so terribly animated when the programmes in question do not follow the course which they would prefer.

The theory apparently is that programmes like The X Factor and Strictly Come Dancing have gained a great deal of extra following since Big Brother went off the air because the typical BB "Sunreader" type audience had dispersed itself elsewhere.

The distressing thing is that it will probably be these people who will also determine which bunch of inadequates forms the next Government... in similar manner to the original election of Margaret Thatcher in 1979 and then John Major in the infamous "It's The Sun Wot Won It" election of 1992.

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I just don't understand why people watch mind numbing trash like this and programmes like Jeremy Kyle which are no more than symptoms of the manner in which this country has steadily slid down the pan in recent years. Worse still those same people seem to become so terribly animated when the programmes in question do not follow the course which they would prefer.

The theory apparently is that programmes like The X Factor and Strictly Come Dancing have gained a great deal of extra following since Big Brother went off the air because the typical BB "Sunreader" type audience had dispersed itself elsewhere.

The distressing thing is that it will probably be these people who will also determine which bunch of inadequates forms the next Government... in similar manner to the original election of Margaret Thatcher in 1979 and then John Major in the infamous "It's The Sun Wot Won It" election of 1992.

Well i for one dont read the Sun or any other daily tabloid nor do i watch Jeremy Kyle , i enjoy music & like the idea of some unknown being discovered & realising the wonderful talent they have .

Thats it . ;)

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I just don't understand why people watch mind numbing trash like this and programmes like Jeremy Kyle which are no more than symptoms of the manner in which this country has steadily slid down the pan in recent years. Worse still those same people seem to become so terribly animated when the programmes in question do not follow the course which they would prefer.

The theory apparently is that programmes like The X Factor and Strictly Come Dancing have gained a great deal of extra following since Big Brother went off the air because the typical BB "Sunreader" type audience had dispersed itself elsewhere.

The distressing thing is that it will probably be these people who will also determine which bunch of inadequates forms the next Government... in similar manner to the original election of Margaret Thatcher in 1979 and then John Major in the infamous "It's The Sun Wot Won It" election of 1992.

I don't see how you can compare X factor to Jeremy Kyle or Big Brother.It is the modern equivelant of Opportunity Knocks or New Faces which were light entertainment and giving unknowns, with a modicum of talent, the chance to step into the limelight and make the big time.The problem in X factor is the judges have now become the show and it has become telly trash of the lowest calibre which is a shame, as some of the talent on show can be very good, but the judges self interest and politicing have spoilt the show from what it was.

The voters............now thats a different matter

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I find it difficult to lump 'Strictly' in with the rest.

There is no doubt that BB and the X Factor are politically manipulated, big money resting on the outcome either by way of advertising/heightening profile(Peter Andre) or, the X Factor, mass recording hit, with the judge enjoying the spoils.

Now Strictly did not make John Sergent and Co this sort of return. They are providing excellent entertainment to excellent music and the female dancers are stunners- nae contest, Charles - Strictly is in a class of it's own!

We old Drum/Kiltarlity/Strath/Beauly/Meeting Rooms veterans, every Saturday night, can all imagine ourselves doing a Sergent in our prime and dragging a worthy along the floor towards the tea room and that would be to a Strip The Willow, we were versatile in those days, we did not need a Chaaa, chaaaa, chaaaa!!

Of course in the Caley, Harry Shore would not allow this sort of thing so we had Jackie Packer and his sister doing their Quickstep at a hundred miles an hour round the floor to make us all scared to then dance and this drummed up a fortune for the bar as we all bought 'courage'.

I relive it every Saturday night.

Memories - I'm on the wrong forum.

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I don't see how you can compare X factor to Jeremy Kyle or Big Brother.It is the modern equivelant of Opportunity Knocks or New Faces which were light entertainment and giving unknowns, with a modicum of talent, the chance to step into the limelight and make the big time.

HD, the comparison I would make is that both programmes exploit the "herd instinct" where people are manipulated with the complete cancellation of their capacity to think for themselves. I see where you are coming from by comparing the X factor with New Faces or Opportunity Knocks, but I think there are also significant differences.

NF and OK were straight entertainment shows, but from a former generation. XF is now taking place the best part of a generation later and in a completely different social environment where there is mass obsession with the cult of the "celebrity"... a term which too often merely means "artless freak" or "raging nonentity". (For instance we are in an climate now where the main claim to fame of one of the most written about people in the land is that she has had considerable quantities of silicone surgically inserted into her thoracic cavity.)

In addition to all of this there are the incredibly self centred judges, including an individual who has an ego the size of Mount Everest and who is also extremely good at exploiting the "Sunreader Factor". Indeed I can even see parallels between the manner in which these programmes achieve mass manipulation and the manner in which the German peole were seduced in the early 1930s.

So perhaps, in tribute to a former generation of shows, they should rename The X Factor "New Faeces". :D

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So perhaps, in tribute to a former generation of shows, they should rename The X Factor "New Faeces". :D

:D aye very good Charles.

I would still maintain X factor isn't in the same vane as Jeremy Kyle which truly is barrel scraping bottom of the gene pool stuff or Big brother which caters to folks voyeurism rather than just enjoying a glimpse of talent blossoming.

( Talking of Big Brother, i once had a service call to a customer who had sat watching BB live broad cast through the night and had been watching someones foot hanging out of the bed for 2 hours before realising the satelitte reciever had frozen!!! unbelievable but true )

Even in New Faeces their were self centered Ego's with Nina Myschov being the boo hiss nasty character who's opinion ultimately counted the most,the introduction of "public voting" has pandered to the more gullible making them believe they actually have some say in what happens,rather than lining the pockets of programme makers with premium rate calls,but as this weeks X factor events cleary show,things will be manipulated to whatever creates hype and controversy for the show,a shame for the real talents like Lucie who had a glimmer of hope but being shoved to one side by corporate greed and commercialism.

I was gonna enter next year but guess now I'll just need to stick to the odd Karaoke in the Fluke,my hopes of celebrityism dashed forever :D

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So perhaps, in tribute to a former generation of shows, they should rename The X Factor "New Faeces". :D

:D aye very good Charles.

I was gonna enter next year but guess now I'll just need to stick to the odd Karaoke in the Fluke,my hopes of celebrityism dashed forever :D

I used to got to the Fluke for a pint....

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So perhaps, in tribute to a former generation of shows, they should rename The X Factor "New Faeces". :D

:D aye very good Charles.

I was gonna enter next year but guess now I'll just need to stick to the odd Karaoke in the Fluke,my hopes of celebrityism dashed forever :D

I used to got to the Fluke for a pint....

Same here....

But not on karaoke nights.

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