The "Signed Up For Next Season" Thread

[Renegade]

He might mean as in promoted to the U20s from the U17s or something.

 

Think of the current crop, we just we need a new keeper and a (preferably) 6 foot plus striker and then we'd be good to go.

 

Presumably as well, we'll get another loan person from Arsenal.

Edited June 11, 2013 by Renegade

[Alex MacLeod]

 

Calum Ferguson is a striker and i would think one of the new wingers we have brought in would be used as a striker if needed. Four players have been kept on for the under 20s from the year group below and one of them is a keeper so i would think he would be used as a third choice keeper. I think we need a new keeper and negotiate taking charlie taylor back.

None of the four players kept on were a keeper?

Cheyne, Ferguson, Christie and Polworth

 

Those four were signed to first team. I think fraser is referring to players promoted to U-20

[Sneckboy]

What I see is signing seven players to replace those we let go. To answer Kingsmills concerns and the BBC comment highlighted by Yngwie...........we signed Polworth, Christie, Cheynne and Ferguson.........are they not local lads? We have Esson, Raven, Meekings, Warren, Shinnie, Doran, Ross, Draper, Foran and MacKay.....all with significant SPL experience. We are holding onto as many experienced players for next season as we have in each and every other season in the last few years. We have brought in as many newbies from lower leagues down south as we have in each of those seasons and we will be as, if not more, successful next season. Our current signing policy won us Div 1 and got us 7th, 10th and 4th in SPL. Considering our budget I think we are doing extremely well and, in case nobody has noticed, we are giving home grown players the opportunity to step up to the mark and challenge for success. More home grown than any other SPL team at that. We have an U-20 team with a number of local lads in it. They are watched in that league and I believe they train with first team. I'm quite sure that if Butcher sees something in them he'll sign them,as he has done already.

I think Cheyne is from Aberdeen. Talking of which, there are far more Aberdonians in the Dons first team squad than we have Invernessians in ours.

[Renegade]

Would it not be worth scouting some of the youth teams for new players, if we don't already?  Dyce has a very successful one from what I remember.

[lukemackay]

 

What I see is signing seven players to replace those we let go. To answer Kingsmills concerns and the BBC comment highlighted by Yngwie...........we signed Polworth, Christie, Cheynne and Ferguson.........are they not local lads? We have Esson, Raven, Meekings, Warren, Shinnie, Doran, Ross, Draper, Foran and MacKay.....all with significant SPL experience. We are holding onto as many experienced players for next season as we have in each and every other season in the last few years. We have brought in as many newbies from lower leagues down south as we have in each of those seasons and we will be as, if not more, successful next season. Our current signing policy won us Div 1 and got us 7th, 10th and 4th in SPL. Considering our budget I think we are doing extremely well and, in case nobody has noticed, we are giving home grown players the opportunity to step up to the mark and challenge for success. More home grown than any other SPL team at that. We have an U-20 team with a number of local lads in it. They are watched in that league and I believe they train with first team. I'm quite sure that if Butcher sees something in them he'll sign them,as he has done already.

I think Cheyne is from Aberdeen. Talking of which, there are far more Aberdonians in the Dons first team squad than we have Invernessians in ours.

 

Theres alot more pressure on children from aberdeen to play football. theyve got to try follow in the footsteps of the great aberdeens teams. whereas inverness children have to follow in the footsteps of highliand league mainly. as the club grows the youth development will grow, as long as our youth are coached football, and working on technical ability, not worrying about results but about improving as individual footballers thats all that matters with the youth development. from seeing players like gavin morrison, and nick ross especially come through in recent years, you can tell they've been coached to play football and work on technical ability. as long as that happens young players will continue to come through our ranks.

i didnt see much of the under 20's last season but im willing to bet most the under 20's will be of the same ilk, and the most amazing thing even though results dont matter so much in the under 20's, and it is about progression, the results came with playing good football, and producing good footballers.

 

 

sorry if i went off on one again.

Edited June 12, 2013 by lukemackay

[Alex MacLeod]

 

What I see is signing seven players to replace those we let go. To answer Kingsmills concerns and the BBC comment highlighted by Yngwie...........we signed Polworth, Christie, Cheynne and Ferguson.........are they not local lads? We have Esson, Raven, Meekings, Warren, Shinnie, Doran, Ross, Draper, Foran and MacKay.....all with significant SPL experience. We are holding onto as many experienced players for next season as we have in each and every other season in the last few years. We have brought in as many newbies from lower leagues down south as we have in each of those seasons and we will be as, if not more, successful next season. Our current signing policy won us Div 1 and got us 7th, 10th and 4th in SPL. Considering our budget I think we are doing extremely well and, in case nobody has noticed, we are giving home grown players the opportunity to step up to the mark and challenge for success. More home grown than any other SPL team at that. We have an U-20 team with a number of local lads in it. They are watched in that league and I believe they train with first team. I'm quite sure that if Butcher sees something in them he'll sign them,as he has done already.

I think Cheyne is from Aberdeen. Talking of which, there are far more Aberdonians in the Dons first team squad than we have Invernessians in ours.

 

Are we comparing those born in Aberdeen against those born in Inverness? Or is it those who came through the youth systems of either club? If former then, considering Aberdeen has a vastly greater population, we are pretty much on par. If latter then they may just edge it by one or two.

[Sneckboy]

I was looking at place of birth. Aberdeen have guys like Clark Robertson, Russell Anderson, Cammy Smith, Ryan Jack, Andrew Considine and youngsters Jordon Brown and Craig Storrie. I won't count Barry Robson (Inverurie), Jamie Masson (Fraserburgh), Chris Clark (Elgin) or Peter Pawlett (England) but who went to school in Aberdeen.

Interestingly, they've gone down the same road as us in terms of having a squad based entirely from the British Isles.

[djh222]

Looks like Terry is going to be offered a new contract

 

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/inverness-caledonian-thistle-manager-terry-1947346

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

Am I wrong in stating that this is almost wholly down to the basic coaching sessions in schools and / or the availability of more specialised coaching for the yoof. Lets face it the provisions at Dungwall and ICT are creating more and more potential and many are going forward in their playing careers, albeit not at the SPL level - and a lot of people forget that SPL is the level that they are being tested at.

[Renegade]

Looks like Terry is going to be offered a new contract

 

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/inverness-caledonian-thistle-manager-terry-1947346

 

I wouldn't be surprised if it's a three yearer.  I doubt he'd have signed Doran for that long unless he intended to stay that long here himself.

[+bughtmaster]

Good points IHE!, my theory why we don't have the Quality in the 'yoof' nowadays is lifestyle is as follows:

 

Unfortunately it is very much a sign of the times. How often nowadays do you see the youngsters out kicking a ball in the fields, jackets down for goal posts, a big mix of ages in equally balanced sides. That was where the learning came from in the times before TV and computers.

 

Goals and byes, three and in were common place depending on numbers and as others arrived sides were picked and a full scale game would ensue,  lasting well over the ninety minutes. The youngest learned the hard way playing against the big lads and if and when they were knocked over they would get up quickly to prove they could take it and weren't Sissies.

 

There was schools football, boys brigade football Sunday school football Street football and any other football they could invent. That was where the trade was learned before being found by junior clubs then welfare clubs those who shone eventually made the Highland league.  

 

Now it would appear that  monied parents can buy their kids into coaching schools and training facilities regardless of abilities, whilst the less well of, many of them who have keen talented offspring don't really get a look in or cant get places because of lack of funds. 

Another factor imo is this attitude of competitiveness being discouraged and the mamby pamby 'its not the winning that counts it's the taking part.'

pish! Its taking part and wanting to win that matters.

 

Teachers, youth leaders etc should all be encouraging sport and winning. People gave up their time to help them along in life without payment so why shouldn't they do the same for this generation.

 

Getting off my high horse now to give it a drink !! or rather share the one I'm going to have

[IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER]

Feck me - I agree 100% - I must be getting old !!

[Renegade]

So as things stand, I'd say our current best line-up is (bearing in mind that these new signings are good and how I expect Butcher to line them up) - 

 

Esson

 

Raven Warren Meekings G.Shinnie

 

Foran Draper

 

Doran Vincent Evans

 

McKay

 

Bench - New Keeper?, Hooman, Allen, Ross, Pepper, Devine, Watkins

 

And that's without a place for Greenhalgh and Williams.  Looks pretty good and pretty set already I'd say.

[AJS]

Great competition in the winger department, cant help but think thats a good thing, everyone will be required to give that extra bit in training for a place in the starting 11, will be interesting to see who impresses the most in pre season.

 

Goalkeeper and a striker still required though, still rather short in supply within those areas, after that we are set i reckon. 

Edited June 14, 2013 by ajsict92

[Libero]

I'm sure I heard somewhere that Adam Evans is primarily being signed as an U20 player. Likewise with Hooman and Gorman I would expect

 

Would think that the remaining winger slot (given that Doran will be starting) would be contested between Greenhalgh, Williams and Watkins

[bdu98196]

I think moving Foran into a central holding role will work well if we have the younger players to be creative around him. With everyone being in early hopefully they all gel and for once manybe we will ge off to a decent start in a season lol.

[AJS]

I'm sure I heard somewhere that Adam Evans is primarily being signed as an U20 player. Likewise with Hooman and Gorman I would expect

 

Would think that the remaining winger slot (given that Doran will be starting) would be contested between Greenhalgh, Williams and Watkins

 

Heard the same about Evans, Hooman is 22 though. So id expect him to be first team. 

[+DoofersDad]

Fully support Bughtmaster's post above.  One of the things that stops talent emerging is the fact that young kids just don't spend anything like the hours we used to kicking a ball about in the street, the local park or the school playground.  Any chance you got, lads were out kicking a ball around.  Formal training was a rarity but the sheer number of hours playing developed skills whilst the number of lads playing ensured that those with the real talent emerged and got noticed - although sadly not in my case.

 

Then there was the competitiveness.  Life was competetive.  You played in leagues for everything and school was competetive - in primary school we had a weekly test which gave you your place in the class and determined where you sat.  Now that seems to be frowned upon because it makes those who do not do so well feel inferior (apparently).  Absolute nonesense of course.  You don't need to play sport competetively or have tests in school to know that other folk are better than you at certain things.  What is important is that children have the opportunity to experience different activities be it sporting, academic, creative or technical etc.  Given the chance, kids will find things they like and are good at and those skills can be nurtured.  Competition encourages kids to do better and crucially, motivates the best to stay at the top with the result that the best get better.

 

Let's face it, life is still competetive.  If you are in business you have to compete in order to make a living and far from stifling competetiveness, schools should be encouraging it.  Together with that comes a respect for the rules and authority.  We would play hard but fair and never, ever question a referee's decision.   

 

There are still parents and teachers who instil these virtues in the children but they are becoming fewer and further between.  As a result the number of players who can cut the mustard at the top level are also getting fewer.  Frankly, I don't see that changing

[+bughtmaster]

Aye DD you have got it in a nutshell. Respect, fairness and honesty all now, sadly, lacking in the game!

 

Whoever coined the phrase money is the root of all evil deserves reverence 'cause that is where it all stems from.

Transfer listed at Tens of millions of pounds, multi million pound wages are they worth it ? No none of them are,, not in my opinion anyway!

Diving, shirt pulling, elbowing, deliberate fouling with intent to injure, faking injury, appealing to the Ref to send players off ! all part of a list of blatant dishonesty that goes on and accepted by the powers that be as the norm.

 

Why do I watch football then if that's what I think? because I love the game I grew up with and just occasionally I am treated to almost ninety minutes of sheer joy when the game is played as it should be.

 

Don't get me wrong I like to see strong tackling, the odd shoulder charge and real competitiveness, just cut out the cheating the namby pamby stuff,   the disrespect and get back to real football.

[+DoofersDad]

The quote is actually about the love of money rather than money itself and is attributed to St Paul,  It's from one of his epistles to Timothy in the New Testament - but don't let that put you off.

[+bughtmaster]

Just thought I'd bend the context   you honour.

[Alex MacLeod]

Modern parenting......................Wrap in cotton wool. Dont allow out of sight. Dont allow out of doors unless accompanied by trusted adult. Stick in bedroom with video games and dvd's to keep from under feet.

[HeScoresWhenHeWants]

Well I'd go with something like -

???/Esson

Raven Meekings Warren Shinnie

Foran Draper

Doran Vincent Greenhalgh/Evans

McKay

Bench: (GK), Ross, Greenhalgh/Evans, Hooman, Devine, Pepper, Allen, Watkins

[Rival]

Well I'd go with something like -

???/Esson

Raven Meekings Warren Shinnie

Foran Draper

Doran Vincent Greenhalgh/Evans

McKay

Bench: (GK), Ross, Greenhalgh/Evans, Hooman, Devine, Pepper, Allen, Watkins

One too many on the bench mate

[HeScoresWhenHeWants]

Well I'd go with something like -

???/Esson

Raven Meekings Warren Shinnie

Foran Draper

Doran Vincent Greenhalgh/Evans

McKay

Bench: (GK), Ross, Greenhalgh/Evans, Hooman, Devine, Pepper, Allen, Watkins

One too many on the bench mate

Greenhalgh/Evans means one of them to play and one on bench. If u don't mean that then how many subs are we allowed?