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Should Scotland be an independent country  

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  1. 1. Should Scotland be an independent country

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It's now 7 months since the last poll on here and the question has changed, so how about it? In 18 months time we'll be in the run in, the YesScotland and Better Together camps will be in full throat trying to win your vote.

I'm voting yes unless someone can convince me otherwise, contrary to what some may think my mind is open to ideas, arguments and debate.

As Wendy Alexander once said, "Bring it on!".

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78 weeks to debate the issues. My hope is that everyone listens to both cases.

I want Scotland to be a socially just country for all of us and I believe that Will only happen through independence.

 

What would you say were the major potential pitfalls with choosing Independence?

 

Serious question, I'm undecided.

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78 weeks to debate the issues. My hope is that everyone listens to both cases.

I want Scotland to be a socially just country for all of us and I believe that Will only happen through independence.

 

What would you say were the major potential pitfalls with choosing Independence?

 

Serious question, I'm undecided.

 

I've taken some time to think about that, weighing my answer against the potential pitfalls of not choosing Independence and I find that the potential pitfalls are much and such the same either way. Currency, economy, defence, employment, etc... all have variables either way but at least if we have a Scottish Parliament deciding how each issue is dealt with we can be a bit more confident that the best solution for the Scottish people will be found.

 

I realise that answer won't help you decide and I can't help that but maybe a football forum isn't the place to look for the answers.

 

http://www.bettertogether.net/

 

http://www.yesscotland.net/

 

I will post a few links to pro-independence websites too but I don't know of any pro-union websites. I apologise for this but I suggest you turn on the telly or buy a newspaper for the latest scarestory.

 

http://wingsoverscotland.com/ A blogging site.

 

http://nationalcollective.com/blog/  Arty farty slant on the debate.

 

http://www.newsnetscotland.com/  I have found this to be fairly balanced and although pro-independence the arguments they make are very well researched and well presented.

 

My daughter told me tonight she wants to vote no. Today she was told that the post would stop in an Independent Scotland, she got this from a teacher (any relation Laurence). A friend also told her we'd reintroduce the death penalty. :amazed:

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78 weeks to debate the issues. My hope is that everyone listens to both cases.

I want Scotland to be a socially just country for all of us and I believe that Will only happen through independence.

 

What would you say were the major potential pitfalls with choosing Independence?

 

Serious question, I'm undecided.

 

I've taken some time to think about that, weighing my answer against the potential pitfalls of not choosing Independence and I find that the potential pitfalls are much and such the same either way. Currency, economy, defence, employment, etc... all have variables either way but at least if we have a Scottish Parliament deciding how each issue is dealt with we can be a bit more confident that the best solution for the Scottish people will be found.

 

I realise that answer won't help you decide and I can't help that but maybe a football forum isn't the place to look for the answers.

 

http://www.bettertogether.net/

 

http://www.yesscotland.net/

 

I will post a few links to pro-independence websites too but I don't know of any pro-union websites. I apologise for this but I suggest you turn on the telly or buy a newspaper for the latest scarestory.

 

http://wingsoverscotland.com/ A blogging site.

 

http://nationalcollective.com/blog/  Arty farty slant on the debate.

 

http://www.newsnetscotland.com/  I have found this to be fairly balanced and although pro-independence the arguments they make are very well researched and well presented.

 

My daughter told me tonight she wants to vote no. Today she was told that the post would stop in an Independent Scotland, she got this from a teacher (any relation Laurence). A friend also told her we'd reintroduce the death penalty. :amazed:

And that is what we are up against....misinformation and Unionist wishful thinking promoted all over the "unbiased" BBC and the biased newspapers, I am horrified that a teacher is allowed to talk crap to students, though....but maybe not, when you consider that some of them know little about anything...but they do have a degree proving it.

Edited to say I have obviously done something supremely stupid, because when I posted this it looked as if PMF had done some editing on it. If that notification turns up again when I save.believe me he hasn't.....and if it doesn't. Ignore this edit! :blush:

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I am horrified that a teacher is allowed to talk crap to students, though....

So am I.

but maybe not, when you consider that some of them know little about anything...but they do have a degree proving it.

Outrageous, prejudiced, gratuitous nonsense.

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As Scotland is and would continue to be governed by the terms of The European Convention on Human Rights then the death penalty could not possibly be reintroduced.

 

That said, I have it on good authority from a unionist friend that we would risk a polio epidemic, typhoid and the plague.

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As Scotland is and would continue to be governed by the terms of The European Convention on Human Rights then the death penalty could not possibly be reintroduced.

 

That said, I have it on good authority from a unionist friend that we would risk a polio epidemic, typhoid and the plague.

What will they think up next!

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78 weeks to debate the issues. My hope is that everyone listens to both cases.

I want Scotland to be a socially just country for all of us and I believe that Will only happen through independence.

 

What would you say were the major potential pitfalls with choosing Independence?

 

Serious question, I'm undecided.

 

My daughter told me tonight she wants to vote no. Today she was told that the post would stop in an Independent Scotland, she got this from a teacher (any relation Laurence). A friend also told her we'd reintroduce the death penalty. :amazed:

 

I would phone the school and complain.

 

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/postal-workers-push-yes-vote-1742901

 

Members of Scotland No 2 branch of the Communication Workers Union backed a motion stating that leaving the UK is "the only way forward for workers in Scotland". I think they might know a little bit more than this 'teacher' who has just plainly lied to his students by making up things that aren't true.

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I am horrified that a teacher is allowed to talk crap to students, though....

So am I.

>but maybe not, when you consider that some of them know little about anything...but they do have a degree proving it.

Outrageous, prejudiced, gratuitous nonsense.

 

Nope............I did say some and not all.....or are you trying to tell me that all teachers know everything?  Really?

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Nope............I did say some and not all.....or are you trying to tell me that all teachers know everything?  Really?

 

Ha! Predictable as ever, Mrs Nope with her favourite tactic (bluster is the best form of defence)  :lol:

 

Don't put words in my mouth. Maybe one of those nice teachers could give you a short course in logic, though I doubt you really need it. Any fool knows that there's a world of difference between "knows little about anything" and "knows everything" - i.e. they're not collectively exhaustive, to use a posh phrase I thought I would never need.

 

However, if you persist in your ludicrous assertion that holders of ANY hard-won professional qualification can "know little about anything" (and please spare us any cliches about 'University of Life' etc) then I can only refer you back to post  :whistle:

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