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On a lighter note I was tickled by Tichy's BEAR cartoon.  Very clever.,, finely tuned sense of humour, TBB. :clapping:

 

That will make it easier  for Yogi to "grin and bear It" I am sure.

 

And as for your questions, IHE, I will only bother to answer the last one because it woke me up and the answer to that one is an emphatic NO. He is an opportunist to the bone.

 

Although that might be his very undoing since  I am getting twinges of sympathy as I watch his face getting more ashen by the week. Learning life's lessons the hard way can be rough and " been there, done that' can sometimes allow you not to gloat --- at least not 100%.    :laugh:

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Hate quotes Wine Shed Benefit Day Reviewed Claim but:

 

Laughing my head off (sorry) from a purely psychological perspective but your response actually supports my theory :lol: :lol: :lol: - fer feck sake read between the lines please - if you can. :blush:

 

Please look at aftermath of a narcissist on google as it feels that you - and the people who liked yer post - were co-dependents. Your expectations - as you stated - were grandiose and influenced by a very clever and evidently influential narcissist. :wave:

 

Steve Marsella the biggest loss - LOL 2

 

Hughes was not my first or second choice but he was probably the "safest" of what we had - and many had dodged it becos of the Butcher situation.

 

Jhesus - how can you say expectations were high AND realistic - book me in fer a chat !!

 

Let me ask some questions ?  - Should Butcher have stayed ? If he had would we have accomplished more ? Did his departure cause problems for ICT? Why did he leave ? AND FINALLY - did he really give a feck about ICT ?

 

I think this pretty much sums up the shallows of IHE's psychological 'insight', he stubbornly drags up our reactions to Butcher leaving as the major cause for this thread yet talks about the guy more than anybody.

 

Why do you want me to answer questions about Terry Butcher?  If I did enough digging around on here I could find you dozens of posts I made during the Barnsley debacle that mirrored my thoughts on his move to Hibs, I was right in saying he had taken us as far as he could but we needed somebody else to push us further.

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One of the negative outcomes of a relationship with a narcissist or any kind of uncaring person is the effect it has on our ability to find a new and healthy relationship. All too often, we come away from hurtful experiences feeling not only angry and betrayed, but afraid to get involved again. This lack of trust, of both others and ourselves, can keep us from finding the love we want.

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Break the cycle of fear and anxiety and avoidance by facing your fears and accepting that while some people may have hurt you in the past, that does not have to be the pattern of your future. Trust that you can look after yourself, and when someone caring comes along, you will be ready to accept their love with open arms.

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Just thought I'd bump this in preparation for this evening.

That's a record home defeat and at least equalling our worst ever defeat full stop - with probably our best ever squad. How can anyone have faith that this guy is the right man for the job?

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But its an away game?

Yep, hence why I made two seperate points in my post. He's presided over our worst ever home defeat (5-0) and now equalled our worst ever defeat (6-0 v Airdrie) since he's taken over.

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Embarrassing today, was willing to give him time but he has to go for me, not that I can see it happening. To be honest I don't know how he got the job, every other fan up and down the country gave a sympathetic laugh when we appointed him. What is the point in trying to bring this footballing ethos to a club that cannot afford technically brilliant players and to a country that is probably one of the most backwards in that footballing respect.

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But its an away game?

Yep, hence why I made two seperate points in my post. He's presided over our worst ever home defeat (5-0) and now equalled our worst ever defeat (6-0 v Airdrie) since he's taken over.

 

Butcher lost 6-0 at Celtic too. But that was with a second string team out.

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I'm not naive enough to believe that we as a team could remain in the top 3 all season due to our player budget and squad size compared to our rivals, but the fall from grace has been somewhat spectacular. From a team that seemed well organised at the back and played attractive counter attacking football we've seen the polar opposite in recent months where we now look brittle at the back and toothless up top. I previously stated i'd give him until after the Summer to judge him properly, but as the weeks have gone by i've felt more and more disillusioned with the same rhetoric being spouted as an excuse for us not getting the results with arguably the best squad we've ever assembled. I wanted to give the man time and to eat my words but now I think his time is up. The 27 pages in relation to this of this is somewhat deafening. The proverbial ball is now in the boards court.

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