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4 minutes ago, forresjags said:

losing your best assets to your rivals for below their worth is suicide.

Understood, but what's the alternative?  It's selling your best assets to your rivals in the middle of their contracts.

Damned if we do, damned if we don't...

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For those not wishing Carl well, I ask them what they would do if they were sacked by their employer and were offered employment at an even higher level by the only other similar employer in the area

Allardice signs a contract extension.  

I appear to be in the minority but I am quite pleased to see Danny back and believe that he can do a decent job for us at Championship level.

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12 minutes ago, forresjags said:

 

If this was any other business we would have folded years ago, losing your best assets to your rivals for below their worth is suicide. 

 

Ironically we would've folded the year we sold Ross Draper...if we hadn't sold one of our best assets for less than he was supposed to be worth.

Suicidal. 

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We cannot continually complain about our financial situation when for the last 25 years the best income we generated was £500k for Ryan Christie .Other than that I'm struggling, to name any others.

That is no way  a good return on the top players that have left us over the years.

Appreciate good contracts cost money ,but longer term they may have reaped the rewards in a decent transfer fee coming back into the club.

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What we need to do is have a conveyor belt of young talent coming through that is first team/premier league standard (like polworth, Ross) if you class Christie as international standard, then you can expect a decent fee for producing such a player. It’s not going to happen constantly but rearing our own for the first team is.

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Think our best bets for any transfer income, are probably Roddy and MacKay. Sold off any chance of extra income before the summer when we ditched our promising youth players and let them go on frees to the Highland League, with Matheus Machado being the only one benefiting and going off to Liga NOS in Portugal.

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Think we need to be winning games before any of the current players would then see interest from other clubs and right now none are really standing out but if we get a run between now and end of season that might change .

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From BBC today

Ross County manager John Hughes says Inverness Caledonian Thistle tried to re-sign striker Billy Mckay in January. (Press and Journal - subscription required)

Would it have made a difference - perhaps; but last time BM came back he wasnt as prolific as his first stint, so while it may be seen by some as a coup through rose tinted specs I'm not sure being older ad having a team with less creative talent we would have got much more than a frustrated figure cast alone up front begging for decent service. Least it shows for those moaning the club have actually try - but we will assume the fund that would have taken are now going to paying McCann.

 

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Agreed. No point signing a striker if we can't get the ball to him. It's creativeness and the desire to win that we so desperately need.

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11 minutes ago, Gringo said:

Agreed. No point signing a striker if we can't get the ball to him. It's creativeness and the desire to win that we so desperately need.

I appreciate a few on here had issues with Liam Polworth, for reason's I can't quite fathom, and that he obviously secured a better package going to Motherwell, but I do rather think we miss him.

But I've seen MacGregor, Allardice and Carson do good stuff from midfield, and of course Doran, no reason to think creativity is beyond them

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According to the P&J, he is 17 and has only played once for Rangers Colts:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/inverness-caledonian-thistle/2992282/caley-thistle-sign-rangers-winger-aaron-lyall-on-loan-until-end-of-the-season/amp/
 

Not sure how much we can expect of him as a result but he does give us another option at a time we are lacking pacy wide players, most likely off the bench judging by this:

https://ictfc.com/aaron-lyall-signs-for-ictfc-on-loan

Does it mean we are unlikely to see much, or anything, if Doran or McDonald in the remaining weeks of the season 

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The more the merrier 🤣 You would imagine the lad has something about him for them to bring him in this late in the season. Maybe also an eye on next season. And good for him at 17 to be brave enough to give it a go. 👏🏻

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Wonder what the difference is between him and Kai. Unless the lad has family up here, I wouldn't see anyone of that age typically moving so far especially when they can't go home and visit family when they're not playing or training...

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Glad to see McCann made good use of his trip to the central belt at the weekend, as long as it doesn’t hinder the progress of our kids, but it shouldn’t.

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10 hours ago, Jack Waddington said:

Wonder what the difference is between him and Kai. Unless the lad has family up here, I wouldn't see anyone of that age typically moving so far especially when they can't go home and visit family when they're not playing or training...

I was wondering exactly the same thing. Home sickness should not be underestimated in such a young lad. But, it may not be relevant, as somehow I can't see him being a regular in the starting X1 in these final few weeks of the season.

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50 minutes ago, Caley Mad In Berks said:

I was wondering exactly the same thing. Home sickness should not be underestimated in such a young lad. But, it may not be relevant, as somehow I can't see him being a regular in the starting X1 in these final few weeks of the season.

Mind you given that it will be just for a few weeks, it should be more of an adventure for the young lad, especially as the clock goes forward and the weather gets warmer [All these things make a difference to how one feels IMHO] and restrictions are starting to ease. He'll be joining a team that is already playing youngsters not that much older than he is, and hopefully he'll get a few minutes of game time, which must be a plus for him. I'm sure  they have thought about where he is staying during this time. Maybe more of a plus for him than us, but if he comes on late in a game and swings in a ball that leads to goal that gets us into the play-offs it's a win-win all round. I'm sure he will have spoken to Kennedy about us, can't be anything but positive [it's quite warm in David Carson's pocket]

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Overall it's got to be a good thing, but one of the questions you need to ask is "what do Rangers get out of it?"
Don't know if ' Development Loans' are still a thing (when I was helping out at Whitehill we got a left back, Scott Gray, from Rangers, on a Development Loan. Since it was only tier 5 he was able to slot straight into the team).

So from a Rangers PoV, if he gets bench time plus a few sub appearances then that gives him more competitive experience than he's had so far. From our PoV we get a possible impact sub (maybe even getting some game time tonight at Buckie?) but I'm struggling to see what else. He's a couple of years younger than Kai and less experienced, but McCann will be the judge of what to do with him.

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Guess the experience of training with men and seeing the rough/tough side of a dressing room/competitive football. 

He has quite a stocky physique for such a young lad. Might get more time than suggested. Maybe McCann is just lowering expectations on the youngster

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Always a worry for me when we take on a youngster from another team - a slap in the face for our own young players as someone jumps the queue on then, so to speak.

Is there really that much difference in ability / skill at thisstage on their careers? 

We'll have a moan next season about our own youths are inexperienced,  whilst we've been bringing players in to ensure we don't have to play them.

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It's only a slap in the face if we have a promising youngster who can play in the position that Lyall can play and is as good or better than him. I don't know if we do have a promising youngster who can play on the wings. Someone with better knowledge of the youths can surely advise.

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I suppose it is that time in the season when clubs start clearing out the squads, seeing who's worth keeping and who's not. 

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Not a great surprise given the issues he has had with injuries in all his time here. When he did play last season he looked a decent defender, so hopefully he finds a club somewhere.

However, it is another example of the challenges some players are facing being away from their families during the pandemic.

Looking forward, given our current managerial position, I wonder who will be scouting for replacements for those we will inevitably lose in the summer.

Does anyone have a list of known contract expiry dates?

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Had he been fit I’m sure he’d have been a first choice defender. But he was never fit, sadly for everyone.

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