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[bdu98196]

11 hours ago, Yngwie said:

 I’m surprised people are surprised!

I'm more surprised that people consider reading anything 'The Sun' publish and that we are looking at leaders of any large business as being moral compasses who consider integrity & ethics above profits & portfolios.

 

[+DoofersDad]

1 hour ago, snorbens_caleyman said:

After the concert fiasco, I am sure that a lot of local businesses won't go anywhere near ICT.  Now, after defaulting on loan payments, I am sure that a lot of SPFL clubs won't go anywhere near us either.

And, in our hour of need, I wouldn't now expect any favours from the Council.

Fouling one's own nest.

This is precisely why we need those responsible for the recent shameful behaviour and gross incompetence to have absolutely no role in running the club in the future.  I don't think the Makwana deal will become a reality and therefore if the club is to avoid slipping into administration there will need to be prompt action from those who genuinely care about the club.  People who have not necessarily seen eye to eye in the past need to put their differences aside and work together to save the club.  If they can do that, they will need the help of the wider club community to try and restore the trust and goodwill of those the club has so recklessly wronged in the recent past.

[Jack Waddington]

Someone on Pie n Bov is saying the Seventy7 deal is off apparently.

Mere minutes away from launching my head through a wall if true...

[+DoofersDad]

20 hours ago, Bridge_Ender said:

He’s a busy guy…

Well, those who have fallen for his proposals hook, line and sinker must be looking at them with a bit of dubaiity now.

[+snorbens_caleyman]

17 minutes ago, Jack Waddington said:

Someone on Pie n Bov is saying the Seventy7 deal is off apparently.

Well, four hours ago Makwana was in Dubai or just leaving it.

"As I head back home from my business trip to Dubai… all I can think of is seeing my family and making up for lost time with my best friend Simba "

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ketanmakwana_things-i-have-learned-about-slowing-down-activity-7229000460706217988-3M2w?trk=public_profile

 

 

[Yngwie]

If Seventy7 has been slipping away for whatever reason, it would explain the meeting Charles suggested was being arranged with current large shareholders- they would seem to be the last chance to save the club. 

[RiG]

This guy is an absolute fantasist. How has it taken so long for folk to see through him?

[+snorbens_caleyman]

10 minutes ago, Yngwie said:

...it would explain the meeting Charles suggested was being arranged with current large shareholders- they would seem to be the last chance to save the club. 

"Help me, Muirfield Mills!  You're my only hope.".

"Muirfield Mills?  Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.  A long time!"

[Sir C the 3rd]

Change as been written in the stars since the end of last week apparently. Hopefully there is some good news today.

[Jack Waddington]

Alan Savage with a stoppage time takeover.

 

Anyone know if Marius Niculae has a son?

 

But in even better news, The S*n is saying Gardiner is out on his arse.

Edited August 13 by Jack Waddington

[LisleRightPeg]

Yea I’m hearing rumblings that Savage and co are stepping in. I expect big changes if true 

[+snorbens_caleyman]

3 minutes ago, LisleRightPeg said:

Yea I’m hearing rumblings that Savage and co are stepping in. I expect big changes if true 

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/13339396/scot-gardiner-leave-inverness-caledonian-thistle-consortium-bids/

If true, then surely the Board has to resign en masse, to take responsibility for the recent fiascos and in particular for accepting the "offer" from the Windsor Walter Mitty.

Edited August 13 by snorbens_caleyman

[Achfary]

6 minutes ago, snorbens_caleyman said:

"Help me, Muirfield Mills!  You're my only hope.".

"Muirfield Mills?  Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.  A long time!"

More like Quantum Leap for MM, "to put right what once went wrong".

11 minutes ago, LisleRightPeg said:

Yea I’m hearing rumblings that Savage and co are stepping in. I expect big changes if true 

Be still my beating heart.  I'll go for the Wonder Years (Fred Alan Savage) if it's all the same.  

[Leaky Blinder]

1 hour ago, Jack Waddington said:

 

 

But in even better news, The S*n is saying Gardiner is out on his arse.

 

[Scotty]

1 hour ago, RiG said:

This guy is an absolute fantasist. How has it taken so long for folk to see through him?

To be fair - the fans saw right through him immediately. We are all Marge Simpson (monorail reference). 

 

55 minutes ago, snorbens_caleyman said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/13339396/scot-gardiner-leave-inverness-caledonian-thistle-consortium-bids/

If true, then surely the Board has to resign en masse, to take responsibility for the recent fiascos and in particular for accepting the "offer" from the Windsor Walter Mitty.

100% agree. The current board should hang their heads in shame, not just over this last scheme but every single fuc**** nonsensical hail-mary scheme that went before it. It is like a Las Vegas gambler trying desperately to get back to break even and failing at each turn. They have no right to be there. They are elected (or co-opted) to do what is right for the club, to be custodians of the club, to make sure everything that is done is for the good and benefit of the club. They have failed at that single task miserably.  

Individually, there are ones on the board who I know, and who I trust(ed) but in true parent fashion, I am not angry at them, just deeply disappointed. They should have walked or raised their voice when all this shi* was going down. 

If some combination of MM, Savage, Sutherland, McGilvray Jr etc is going to come in and save us, then hopefully egos can remain in check and they can work together for the greater good. McGilvray Sr got us on the path to Premier League in the first place (and did it in 10 years just as his vision document stated). Sutherland and those that followed who were associated with him or Tulloch steadied the ship and made us fiscally responsible. Savage was always there or thereabouts, and I certainly trust him a lot further than who is there now, and even MM had the right idea but what they lacked was the right representative IMHO.  There is plenty of credit to go around if they can raise ICT FC from the ashes, rebuild the community and local business support, rebuild fan trust, rebuild the trust of other clubs (ie. paying for our loan contracts), and rebuild the morale and trust of players and staff alike. This is something that has taken the current board and management a very short time to erode and destroy. Rebuilding it will take a lot longer. 

On a personal level - what I would like to see

1. Gardiner out the door permanently (appears to be in progress)
    
2. An under-performing manager out the door replaced with a hungry young coach eager to prove his/her worth and able to work with scant resources we have and will have in the foreseeable future. Ryan Esson springs to mind but that may be sentiment on my part. I will leave others to suggest who might fit the bill. 
    
3. A complete rebuild in the boardroom with representatives from all the major shareholder camps working together and remembering the ethos is to do what is right "for the good and benefit of ICTFC".  
    
4. A public acknowledgement from the incoming board/club management of the hideous actions of the last few years and an apology to the likes of Shane Sutherland, Aaron Doran, Ryan Esson and others. You simply don't treat people like that, least of all those who have given almost their entire carers to ICTFC.  Those that earned testimonials should also get them as a way to try and build bridges in the support again and show we are back to being a community focused club. 

Its going to be a long road back, but if the right people are at the helm and are open and transparent with us, where business confidentiality does not preclude it, then we can get there. 

 

 

[big cherly]

1 hour ago, RiG said:

This guy is an absolute fantasist. How has it taken so long for folk to see through him?

To be honest RiG, it doesn’t surprise me one bit. People generally are too keen to see an easy road ahead without checking the car or road conditions. 

To quote P. T. Barnum,,,,

"There's a sucker born every minute" 

[Leaky Blinder]

15 minutes ago, Scotty said:

 

1. An under-performing manager out the door replaced with a hungry young coach eager to prove his/her worth and able to work with scant resources we have and will have in the foreseeable future. Ryan Esson springs to mind but that may be sentiment on my part. I will leave others to suggest who might fit the bill.

 

 

Would also be forward looking to appoint someone with direct knowledge of the potential player base locally on board in any new coaching set up. Stephen Mackay ticks a lot of boxes. 

Edited August 13 by Leaky Blinder
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[IBM]

1 hour ago, RiG said:

This guy is an absolute fantasist. How has it taken so long for folk to see through him?

To be fair a lot of the fans picked up on it pretty quickly but our club custodians were easily led up the garden path by him which is why they should all go!

[RiG]

Yeah fair point that the fans saw through his mince quickly. Same definitely couldn't be said for many at the club and some of the local press who were quick to let him spout nothings about his plans without any pushback.

[SMEE]

1 hour ago, RiG said:

This guy is an absolute fantasist. How has it taken so long for folk to see through him?

Red flags were waving, from the moment i read the brief Facebook statement from ICT, all them weeks ago.

[SMEE]

30 minutes ago, IBM said:

To be fair a lot of the fans picked up on it pretty quickly but our club custodians were easily led up the garden path by him which is why they should all go!

Were the Board just desperate to offload the ICTproblem, onto some gullible fantasist?
Again, I felt sure, that those who make the board at any football club, usually have a sound mind for making good business decisions. Would any of those muppets on the ICT board, run their businesses in such a shoddy manner?

[Scotty]

11 minutes ago, RiG said:

Yeah fair point that the fans saw through his mince quickly. Same definitely couldn't be said for many at the club and some of the local press who were quick to let him spout nothings about his plans without any pushback.

Yes, many in the press did not ask any hard questions, they never seem to do so these days locally or even nationally. Seems they were either scared of losing access to the club from the man who should have been answering these questions or realistically just filling space. The older journos that have been around the block may be less intimidated, but it seemed to work on the Courier and elsewhere who were gushing about this new owner and falling all over themselves to give him column inches. 

I have to say, in all honesty, I was also a little surprised at the Podcast lads too. In the episode just after the 77 ventures "takeover", I felt they let him off the hook a bit too easily with the 'wait and see' approach. I get it that they perhaps had to be a little circumspect and watch their words as certain listeners may want to see if they cross that slander/defamation line, and that private thoughts may not have aligned completely with the podcast content, or perhaps I was just too cynical about the whole thing and was only seeing one side?    

either way, I think, if we do get a local consortium of concerned business people to right the ship, we will all have played a part in preserving the life of our club in its 30th year. #OnwardsAndUpwards

[RiG]

12 minutes ago, Scotty said:

I have to say, in all honesty, I was also a little surprised at the Podcast lads too. In the episode just after the 77 ventures "takeover", I felt they let him off the hook a bit too easily with the 'wait and see' approach. I get it that they perhaps had to be a little circumspect and watch their words as certain listeners may want to see if they cross that slander/defamation line, and that private thoughts may not have aligned completely with the podcast content, or perhaps I was just too cynical about the whole thing and was only seeing one side?

[big cherly]

12 minutes ago, Scotty said:

Yes, many in the press did not ask any hard questions, they never seem to do so these days locally or even nationally. Seems they were either scared of losing access to the club from the man who should have been answering these questions or realistically just filling space. The older journos that have been around the block may be less intimidated, but it seemed to work on the Courier and elsewhere who were gushing about this new owner and falling all over themselves to give him column inches. 

I have to say, in all honesty, I was also a little surprised at the Podcast lads too. In the episode just after the 77 ventures "takeover", I felt they let him off the hook a bit too easily with the 'wait and see' approach. I get it that they perhaps had to be a little circumspect and watch their words as certain listeners may want to see if they cross that slander/defamation line, and that private thoughts may not have aligned completely with the podcast content, or perhaps I was just too cynical about the whole thing and was only seeing one side?    

either way, I think, if we do get a local consortium of concerned business people to right the ship, we will all have played a part in preserving the life of our club in its 30th year. #OnwardsAndUpwards

Yes, thankfully the ST was that champion of rigour and question on behalf of the fans and not jumping to endorse the first snake oil salesman that came along!!

 

[Yngwie]

If our dalliance with Makwana is indeed over, do we know who dumped who?