Yesterdays match day thread say's it all about the situation at the club. Lots of points with which I totally agree. Both on this board and at the ground yesterday we seem to have sunk below the usual venting of frustration of any fan whose club is having difficulties.

Many season ticket holders I know, including me, are really seriously considering not renewing even if we stay up.

The atmosphere in the North stand has died completely. The young men in block G obviously having grown tired of being penalised for simply trying to get the 'twelfth man' behind the club.

The walk out after the 3rd goal was not just a few individuals. A substantial number left the game with 15 mins to go including many who I have sat near for years who have never left early before.

On the board there is an air of resignation that nothing will be done to rectify the situation.

Half season ticket sales are massively down.

I personally just don't feel the club cares about the fans. Perhaps in the 'business' of football we are becoming redundant.

One game from the bottom!!!!!

Looks potentially scary at Hearts too! 'Hearts boss Csaba Laszlo may be facing a New Year fire sale of Tynecastle's prize assets with skipper Christophe Berra, playmaker Laryea Kingston, striker David Obua and wing ace Andy Driver all set to be sold to keep the prospect of administration from Gorgie.'

For "prize assets" read "high earners" and then think how they would replace them .... with decent players from smaller teams, who command a smaller wage, and who may be nearing the end of contracts or unsettled at their current clubs for one reason or another ...... does it ring any alarm bells ?