Onward and Upward

The ball should definitely be in the clubs court. Does anyone know if the supporters club are chasing this up? :024:

1) I'm pretty sure that Caley aren't mental enough to intentionally sell tickets for Home sections to Away fans, this would be a major issue with the Police as it would be a major flash point (as it is currently turning out to be) and would have serious connotations for crowd safety. 2) You have no idea what will kick off between opposing fans in the same section, hence EVERY ground in the UK attempts to segregate fans. They may well have no intention of any aggressive action toward a home fan, however, banter can very quickly be taken out of context and what begins as innocent ribbing between fans can end up in a very nasty situation with innocent people getting hurt for no reason. 3) I agree that LARGE groups of away fans standing in the South Stand pose too much of a risk for Police and Stewards to attempt to get seated, they may well inflame the situation, however, I think most people are troubled by the inconsistent manner that Home and Away fans are treated. If 50 away fans stand in the South Stand are standing, one attempt to get them seated is made, if they don't comply they're left to it and observed. In the Home end they tend to be continually approached until such time as they sit back down. I REALLY don't agree about your comment regarding giving persons in authority abuse. If a Steward can't take a bit of abuse on the chin and continue trying to defuse a conflict, then IMHO they need to look closely at what motivates them to be in a security role. Security/Stewarding is NOT about enforcing your will on other people just becasue it's the rule, it should be about educating the public about the rules in order to ensure they agree that they should be complying (I agree however, that there are always certain people who just will not listen). The public have every right to talk back to a Steward, as long as they are not being offensive/racist/abusive etc. I'm sorry but your statement about there not being a law against it is just stupid. This issue cannot be blamed solely on the Stewards. All agencies involved in the matchday security operation at the ground (Police/Stewards/Safety Officer/Ticket Sales/Cheif Executive) are at fault and have to work together to resolve it. Rant over, you may go about your business again! :023:

In reply to the above, this happens at EVERY game involving the OF, also Aberdeen and Dundee Utd!! I sit in the same area, with the hospitality seats in front of me and the problem is endemic. Stewards and Police do nothing in this area! The same complaints are made at EVERY match by those around me.

I definitely don't agree with the 'Ultra' tag, most people do associate that with violence, particularly in Europe, but more and more in the UK too. I like the idea of something like 'Bridge End Clan' and who cares if it conjures up a 'short bread tin image' to some uneducated sassenach that doesn't understand the importance of the clans in our countries rich heritage?? I also like the 'Forza Bridge End' & 'BENI' ideas too! Mon the noisemakers! :021: :clapping03:

I must agree, it shouldn't matter how much you are paying for your ticket, Home sections are home sections and away fans should not be allowed in. Someone made an excellent comparison earlier; If there were that many Away fans in Home section at Ibrox, Easter Road, Tynie etc there would be a riot. It boils down to ineffective stewarding (Rock Steady Stewards receive two hours training, which basically states 'if anything happens, get your supervisor') and poor leadership from the Club Safety Officer (who remains in charge at TCS during a match, unlike every other ground in Scotland where the ground is turned over to the Police Match Commander). Even if the Stewards were properly trained, they can't do anything to effect an ejection or enforce the ground regulations, as none of them hold SIA Licences, so any action they take would be illegal under the Private Security Industry Act. This is an issue that MUST be resolved by the club, as the number of fans on here that are saying they feel intimidated in their own stands is ridiculous! :33: :018:

:rotflmao: :015: :015: :rotflmao: That's a quality quotation! I'll reserve judgement until I've seen the nick of RS on Saturday! :rotflmao: :33: