Onward and Upward

Further to my earlier post, I thougt you might find this useful, pages 7 & 8 let you know what Stewards without SIA Licences can do. It makes for interesting reading, as there's not really a lo they can do without a Licence, apart from show you to your seat. SIA Security at Events (Including Football)

Sitting fourth in the league, the team seems to be working well together (mostly) we've finally stopped the hoofball (mostly), and people are still discussing a new manager????? :thumb04: How much better do you want it?

Posted about this on the Beni Board yesterday. Quality atmosphere from Section G on Saturday!!! As has been previously mentioned, watch out for a backlash, common sense stewarding is a thing of the past at the TCS. Best thing you can do is sit and sing, for the next couple of games, just to let to die down a bit. I'm not saying don't stand at all, just play it cool and try not to stand all the time. Big thumbs up to the lad that sttod up to the stewards, :thumb04: , well done that man. Next time you're asked to sit down, just ask to see the SIA Licence of the person who's trying to enforce the rules :018:

Loved the Bouncy today section G Keep up the good work and we might get a bit of atmosphere at the TCS yet! :D :015: :thumb04: :018: ;)

That would be Hibs, to the great delight of my missus who just loves winding me up about our record against caley! I reckon the folks on here are onto something though, If you're all sat down, regardless of whether you're singing or not, what reason would the Stewards have for approaching you to break you all up? Is anyone around you complaining to the Stewards about you? Are they complaining about your language during songs?, If so, just substitute any swearie words with something else. The gist of what I'm trying to say is make the system/rules work to your advantage. If you do things that are gonna wind the Stewards up, they're gonna win, as they have the power to eject you. If you adapt to the rules, you don't give them an excuse to persecute you and still get to sing your hearts out for your team.

Because the people over there tried to stand throughout the game despite repeated requests to sit down. No wonder it was a failure. The supporters that tried to use it thought that they were invincible. It would be great however if they could have a section of the ground that the stewards knew was going to contain more rowdy fans but ones who, when standing up, only did so with the intention of creating a good atmosphere. That way the stewarding could be more relaxed towards them. Unfortunately the Stewards are right to try and get everyone seated, them's the SPL's rules I'm afraid. I know it's not quite as much fun, but you can still sing when you're sitting down, I've been doing it for years at Easter Road. (yes I am a Hibee, but I also have season tickets for ICT and get along to every game I possibly can). I do, however, agree that the lack of consistency is ridiculous. You can't have one rule for the North Stand and one for the South! This is maybe somethibg that needs to be brought up via the supporters trust? ***awaits his slagging for being a hibee and a caley jags fan******

So they're going out of their way to harass the only group of fans making anu noise in the ground! Does anyone actually complain about the group at the top of Section G, or is everyone around them quite happy to let them get on with it? I was of the understanding that the drum was allowed to be used, if the club didn't want it in, surely it should be stopped at the gate?

I did think the Stewards were a bit OTT at the Hamilton game, I don't know what was said to the crew at the top of section G, but things certainly quietened down after a Steward had been up to chat to them. Pretty inconsistent considering that a smaller group of fans at the Hamilton end were allowed to stand throughout the game. Has anyone thought about photocopying/printing song sheets for the rest of the fans? I know that they do this at a number of grounds when they're looking to get a new song off the ground.

Personally I'm glad to see the back of Zibi. Regardless of his performance in the reserves, at the SPL level the guy has proven himself (Maybe not at ICT, but certainly elsewhere) as a Grade A Disaster Merchant! It might well be a pain to look at a replacement for him, however a sound investment now could save a lot of hassle if he ever got between the sticks for a run in the first team! :sillywave: :sillywave: :sillywave: :sillywave: :sillywave: :sillywave: :sillywave: :sillywave: :sillywave: :sillywave: :sillywave: :sillywave:

Dennis WAS one of ICT's most talented players, however, he is struggling at the moment and I just can't see him coming back up to his previous level. Thank you for your service to the club, but it's time to move on! :sillywave:

I would go with that, possibly switch imrie & cowie though.

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I reckon you're onto a winner there, With Yoda's experience in the middle of the park and spideys quick moves up front, 4 - 0's not unthinkable! :021: :021: :clapping03: :clapping03:

Easy seen why you're not in football management!

Just my tuppence worth, Fraser Proctor McGuire Munro Hastings Cowie Black Paatelainen Wyness Imrie McCallister Subs: Malkowski, Tokely, Watt, Vigurs, Hart, Niculae, Bayne Flat back four, with occaisonal runs from the fullbacks, Blackie in a holding role in midfield, Paatelainen & Cowie down the wings, Wyness playing just off the front two & interchangeable with Imrie. I would pick a slightly different team, however half of our youth players are away on loan! :tic01:

I would love to see that team on the park and i'm pretty sure that they would beat Aberdeen, what the the constant overlap and all. I'm also pretty sure that the ref would pull us up for having an extra player on the park! :023: :021:

Sports socks, get your sports socks, two for a pound, two for a pound!

Funny, my Mrs and I were wondering the same thing on Saturday!

I agree with you there Alex. The Home hospitality fans are not the problem. Ok, they block the view for a minute while they fumble into seats, block the stairwells at half & full time and are usually not interested in the football :rolleyes02:, but I don't blame them for any of that, at least they're not supporting the Away team! The club does need to sort out the Hospitality though, with respect to the blocked views and the blocked stairwells. The major problem is the Away fans in the hospitality section. Fans are sick of having to put up with them and the animosity towards them is growing. The apathy that is shown by the Police and Stewards is disgusting.

Big round of applause for the lads! :clapping03: :clapping03: :clapping03: :clapping03: :021: :021: The ONLY area of the ground that makes any attempt to make some noise/atmosphere! Great post by MacBandy too :clapping03: :021:

I too sit in this area and have to put up with away fans week in week out! In fact despite there being a heavier presence by the police and Stewards in the area on Saturday (2 Police/1 Steward/1 Steward Supervisor) there was still nothing done! Personally I'm sick of having to put up with this, given that I pay for my season tickets, whilst the hospitality are mainly on freebies! My partner has gotten so hacked off with this situation, that she's putting complaints in to the Supporters Trust (Who I've found to be very helpful in the matter). I would urge you all to do the same, as the more complaints we get in, the more action will be taken!

The rules regarding the banning of sticks/poles for flags are part of the Ground Regulations published by the Scottish Football Safety Officers Association, which are utilised by the SPL/SFA/SFL. So in theory, everyone should be working to the same script. The reality at ICT is that no one within the club is a member of the Safety Officers Association, nor do they hold a qualification to be a Safety Officer, so I would suggest speaking to : http://www.footballsafety.com/

It currently takes 3-4 months for the SIA to process a license application, which means that we should start seeing Licensed Stewards at the ground as of now. Rockunsteady have NOT met the criteria to deploy Stewards in a security role, they cannot enforce the ground rules, which is supposed to be their job! The only thing that a steward at Caley Stadium can do is show you to your seat and watch for safety issues, but they cannot enforce any safety issues, or become involved in any Crowd Control issues. The only staff that Rockunsteady have licensed are supervisors or above. All other staff have only received 2 hours training, which basically tells them to get a supervisor in the event of ANYTHING happening. The licensing isn't perfect but at least the staff would get a minimum of 32 hours of guided learning. It seems to me that the club is throwing away money on ineffective stewarding (including transporting ineffective stewards from Aberdeen & the Central Belt). I have also noticed that the police presence this season has raised considerably, particularly in the south stand. Is this due to the lack of licensed stewards capable of enforcing the ground regulations? Kind of defeats the purpose of having Stewards there! :024: Did the SIA say that the Club and Rocksteady had been given the OK or did that come from the Club and Rockunsteady?? :024: :023:

That's very true, but the Stewards at Caley can't get involved in anything as NONE of them hold SIA Licences. 4 & a bit months after the LAW came into effect! :33:

I'll have a chat with jagged little thistle and see if she's willing to make a complaint!