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1st scorer us: Tade
1st scorer them: O'Connor
Crowd: 3272
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first scorer us: Tade
first scorer them: Sandaza
Crowd: 2972
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Ironic isn't it, when Celtic say they gang of 10 are showing disrepect for Scottish Football when they have been trying thier best to join English league. The gang of 10 need to stay strong, if they don't win now they will never win.
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1st scorer us: Tade
1st scorer them: Fallon
Crowd: 8272
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A striker that can score is always the most difficult position. There aren't many strikers that have scored more than Tade that we could have afforded. Possibly Vernon and Heffernan. That's it (and I'm not so sure we could have afforded either of them). Tade, I think, would be a great super-sub. Imagine him coming on after 60 mins, with the defence getting tired. It would be his ideal position - even though players hate it. Hopefully A.Shinnie will be back. I also like McKay and Sutherland but we need someone that our fans deride as someone 'who doesn't do anything, except score goals'.
Not sure who that would be. I'd like to see some scouting on how Rory is progressing. Was only a youngster when he was here. Also, let's have a look at the likes of Rangers and Hearts for some bargains. But it's a tough position to fill.
Admitedly I have only seen our TV games, but from what I've seen leaves me feeling a bit sorry for Tade. He rarely gets the opportunity to create, he doesn't benefit from midfelders making space for him and he spends a great deal of time chasing lost causes. the bloke deserves a medal.
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Suck it up princess. You need to be have thicker skin if you want to be a ref.
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Laura, I am really sorry to hear this news. My deepest sympathies go to you and your family.
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1st scorer us: Tade
1st scorer them: Dayton
Crowd: 3672
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What I don't understand is how 7 parties think Rangers is a good buy. Murray had to give it away for a pound because nobody would touch it. Now the circumstance are much worse and groups are lining up.
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Am I missing something here. My understanding is that if a company goes into liquidation the assets are sold off and the funds raised shared among the creditors proportionately. Reading what I've reproduced below I cant see how Whyte can make anything out of liquidation. He's more likely to make money out of coming out of administration. Club would be debt free and a big desire to potential buyers.
Some cut and paste:
GENERAL LIQUIDATION QUERIES
What does liquidation mean?
Liquidation is a formal procedure whereby a liquidator is appointed to ‘wind-up’ the affairs of a limited company, which involves selling the company’s assets and paying creditors. When all the assets have been sold and the money distributed, the company is dissolved, which means that it no longer exists.
How do you put a company into liquidation?
There are two ways to liquidate a company:
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Compulsory liquidation: this is where someone, usually a creditor, presents a petition to the court and gives evidence that they are owed money which the company cannot pay, and so the court makes a winding-up order. The Official Receiver is normally appointed liquidator of the company. It is usual for a creditor to instruct a solicitor to act on his behalf because of the legal nature of the proceedings.
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Voluntary liquidation: this is where the company itself decides to go into liquidation, usually because it cannot pay its debts, and an insolvency practitioner is appointed liquidator of the company.
How much does it cost?
If you want to put a company into compulsory liquidation, you have to pay £1000 deposit to the court, plus a £220 court fee, plus the cost of advertising the petition in the London Gazette and any costs of instructing a solicitor. If you want to put a company into voluntary liquidation, the costs vary depending on which insolvency practitioner you use.
The forms to put a company into compulsory liquidation can be found on our website at www.insolvency.gov.uk in ‘Forms’ and then ‘Forms for England and Wales’.
What happens to the company directors?
When a company goes into liquidation, the directors cease to have control of the company, and the liquidator takes over. The directors have a duty to co-operate with the liquidator to identify all assets and liabilities of the company and provide details of its affairs. The liquidator has to make a return under the Company Directors’ Disqualification Act 1986 about the directors’ conduct in relation to the company.
His tactic seems to be that he is a secured creditor. This means that he would have first crack at the assets. He was trying to be repaid money that he hasn't actually paid. His number is up. He's done this successfully before but I can't imagine why he would think he would get away with it with a football club.
Whyte wasn't interested in being a Director - his focus was being a secured creditor. And that has failed badly. He thought he could make good coin based on a 1 pound investment.
In breaking news it seems that the wage reduction agreed by Naismith et al is good for 2 months only. They are obviously banking on a quick sale by someone with a lazy 70 million pounds they are happy to p1ss against the wall.
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Compulsory liquidation: this is where someone, usually a creditor, presents a petition to the court and gives evidence that they are owed money which the company cannot pay, and so the court makes a winding-up order. The Official Receiver is normally appointed liquidator of the company. It is usual for a creditor to instruct a solicitor to act on his behalf because of the legal nature of the proceedings.
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We export Fosters so we don't have to drink it. I'm not sure they even bother trying to sell it here anymore.
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Nectar of the Gods
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1 beer can - give me a break.
Fast forward to 2min 25 sec of this clip
This is why we only get plastic cups of beer at the football now. It was a good night at the football though.
Disclaimer: I don't condone this, I didn't participate in this. But only because I wasn't prepared to throw perfectly cold, full cans of XXXX
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It is really good to see the other 10 members showing leadership on this.
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Feck sake guys, read the whole thing and don't just focus on individual parts and cherry pick comments. As far as the SPL (or whoever it be in future) is concerned, they do not need a TV deal to run the game (financially) and it should not be taken in to the the equation, certainly not as heavily as it is, when making decisions on what is best for the game.
The don't need it to run the game, they need it to finance the game. A TV deal is essential not just because of the income it directly generates. it also impacts on the value of sponsorship that individual clubs attract. TV deals ensure a level of national exposure. Please do not under estimate the value of indirect revenue from a TV deal
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The "ninetendo effect" is just an excuse.
Every country in the developed world has computer games and the internet so if this was a significant issue then every sport in every developed country would be in attendance decline. This is simply not the case.
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For that reason, TV income should be all but taken out of the equation when deciding on a structure and business model that is sustainable for the long term.
A league of mostly part-time teams then?
Yes, at first. However with strong leadership at the governing body there is opportunity here.
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One example is Neil Doncaster who continues to spout the "16 team league would cost the SPL £20 Million a year" line. That figure is based on carrying forward all the figures etc as they sit here and now and only making adjustments for fewer games and (possible) reduced TV income....although I've not seen anything from TV companies to suggest they think the product would be less valuable with a larger league!!! No allowance is made in his calculations for the positive effects of the change....and that is largely due to the fact that the real benefits are long term and go beyond the 2 or 3 year TV deals.
Caley D as I have explained before, the product does not necessarlily become less valuable (however I would strongly argue that it does especially interms of audience numbers for TV). But if I use your assumption and say the Broadcast deal is the same value then that sum is divided into more pieces. In the current structure the team finishing 1 and 2 revcieve a disproportionatly large amount of that pool leaving the rest of the league substantially worse off. This is before you even consider that increased costs of team stepping up to the SPL in terms of players, policing etc. This is very much a case of more teams mean less for everyone.
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For that reason, TV income should be all but taken out of the equation when deciding on a structure and business model that is sustainable for the long term.
A league of mostly part-time teams then?
Spot on Yngwie.
The time to look at long term big picture stuff is when you house is in order. In these circumstances high standard short and medium term plans are required to ensure there is a long term.
At least this should put an end to the crazy 16 team league idea. It wasn't affordable before and it now lies very much in the long, long, long term plans. This is becasue not of the possible reduction in TV cash but the inevitable reduction in TV cash.
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The first thing I will say is hear me out. When I say dissolve, I mean restructure but there wasn't enough room in the title.
Let there be no mistake, newco Rangers will be in the SPL - money always wins over ethics in football. That's why Qatar will host the World Cup - it's how football works.
So let;s run with this because for the first time the other SPL members have some real bargaining power and they should exercise it. At the end of the day while Chairpersons of other clubs are saying that Newco FC can't play in the SPL, the Chief Financial Officer of each club is saying something different.
So for the first time in SPL history, the other 10 clubs have real power and they should exercise it.
First and foremost the revenue sharing inequity must be fixed. The new entity would need to assess the total amount that would be paid to member clubs, for the sake of my argument, let's call this total amount Member Grants.
70% of this should be paid to members at the start of the season. Each member should get an equal amount of this pool.
30% of this should be paid as prize money according to where you finish on the ladder.
Secondly, this is an opportunity to give the other clubs more say in the future in the league. Instead of 11 out of 12 member votes to change the rules, change it to 9. Therefore a two thirds majority is required.
This is a massive opportunity - please use it.
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DoofersDad, I fully agree with your sentiments on footballer's wages and lack of giving return to football.
The time to cap football wages is long overdue, pay 'win' bonuses at reasonable levels to give incentives yes, or for bringing on new incentives for investments in the teams they play for, or in providing youth training and encouragement.
Most get their money far too easily Time they gave their supporters something back!!!!
A capping system would be of considerable help to all clubs and cut down the Prima Donna factor so many have.
The only way that would work is if a league had a fixed salary cap. And the only way if would be effective is if every football league has a salary cap. Salary caps or wage limits are incompatible with leagues that have relegation because teams will risk breaking the cap to avoid relegation.
Wage limitation is also very easy to get around by clubs. instead of paying players directly, they would have sponsors or other third parties make payments for them. It would create more problems than it solves.
I have seen articles suggesting wages be limited to a percentage of turnover. while this is good in theory it just perpetuates the strength of wealthy clubs.
We have salary caps for all professional sports in Oz and the experience has been that they are very difficult to police. Every incident of serious breaches have been uncovered by excellent investigative journalists rather than the governing bodies of the sport.
I will stick my neck out with a prediction. In the next 10 years wages growth in football will be negative. There are just too many clubs in the major leagues that are hanging on by a thread. There only needs to be a hiccup with TV money and the whole house of cards comes down and it will be the Spanish or Italian league that goes down first.
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I am also in the Butcher must NOT go camp, don't be surprised lol.
I reckon he needs to sort out the defence and also look for a goalscoring Striker who will guarentee us a goal nearly every game, someone like Fran Sandaza at Saints or Daly at Dundee United.
As i have said before, our team this year is the exact same as last seasons St Johnstone team, they were leaking far to many goals and couldn't score, look at them this season, their exactly the opposite, so if they can find good defenders and strikers then surely so can we and don't give me this, but we don't have money because i will respond by saying "neither did St Johnstone.
It's not just that though, is it? On top of needing defenders and forwards, we also need midfielders who can dictate a game. Where was our midfield against Dundee Utd?
It's a whole damn team we need, not just a few players.
In defending our midfield they spent the entire game watching the ball sail over there heads, the only opportunity they had to touch the ball was by tackling opponents. ESPN interviewed TB about two thirds through the first half and I was concerned that he was very happy with the way we were playing. I'm not entirely sure what he was watching.
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1st scorer us: Ross
1st scorer them: Daly
Crowd: 4721
Rangers go into administration
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And here's me reading this post whilst eating my dinner.