gillian black

who won player of the month for october?

Do you not think that newspapers try and stretch the truth a bit? a story about an internal feud will sell more copies than one telling the boring truth.

I couldn't agree more, you are spot on, However, the point I am making is there is ALWAYS an element of truth in what they are saying, and again the point I am making IS Blackie could have played on Tuesday, the question is would he have changed the result, A Huge Possibility, do we continue to be on the receiving end of Brews Ego or do we try to do something about it, again the question is what, I will say again, I believe, Brew may have what it takes to be a good manager, but his personal feelings MUST be left at the door when he enters ICT stadium, he also needs decent back up around him, the numpties he has are useless, whatever he feels about Blackie has to be put aside for the best of the team, a manager in whatever field, Has to be able to look past the insecurities he has, listen to advice, take it on board, and lets face it who better than the players themselves to tell him what is wrong, the decision at the end of the day, IS STILL HIS, I want him to take advice but make his own decisions, BUT NOT at the expense of OUR team. Blackie is a hot head, and lets face it we are missing that at the moment, he is passionate about what he does, good at it, and he tells it as it is, some will say it is because he is young, immature, well even if it is I dont know if I want that to change, the bottom line, end result, whatever you want to call it HE wasn't playing on Tuesday, and he should have been, and IT MIGHT have kept us in the cup< and IF playing today he might help us win or draw or be part of the loosing side, which ever way we need him like it or not. I wont be discussing this any further, I seem to be hitting a brick wall, and it is only my personal opinion, I only ask that the interview be read and people make up their own minds, and yes remembering that reporters will write what they feel will sell newspapers, but with a big hint of truth in it and that for me at least, is worrying.

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Was he injured last night then?

I know he came off on Saturday, and seemed to be rubbing his shoulder again.

Yet according to MFR yesterday, we had a full squad to choose from, minus McGuire. No mention of Blackie being out. And there he was last night, on the pitch before the match having a kick about with the subs. Then he just stepped over the wall and came up and sat with his partner. He certainly didn't look injured.

IF he wasn't injured then that was a serious mistake by Brewter.....Blackie has been our one consistently good player this season. If he'd been on the park, then the Falkirk midfield wouldn't have got the acres of room they were getting most of the game.

So anyone know if was injured or dropped?

So my info was correct, has anyone read the DAILY MAIL page 117, this beggars belief, to quote the reporter, ""surprisingly dropped his fine form in the urrent campaign made his midwek exclusion all the more galling.""

Galling is not the word I would use, sheer madness or is it again that he cant stand Blackie, he is, one of the best we have he is a play maker, passes well, can read the game, for f--- s--- what are we doing, why is this happening, I am sitting here this morning, greeting my eyes oot, the frustrating thing is I can do nothing, we can do nothing, will he play him today, ? Yes I think so, not to play him is, for Brew, the biggest mistake of his career, ""Blacks futures far from certain""

why is this? again I say I told you so.

I agree , Blackies one of our best players in fact probably the best we've got , i really hope he signs new contract

I think we all agree, have you read the paper, to say I am gutted is putting it mildly, Brew neds to put his personal feelings aside and think of the team, can I say if I was him I would be thinking of myself and playing my best players, I am only there as long as I can produce the results.

It looked to me like he was taken off against Well' with a shoulder problem, if he was played against Falkirk he could well of agravated the problem and make himself unavailable for the Rangers game.

I would prefer to see him at Ibrox fit and ready.

Why are you lot always looking for the controversy and conspiracy?

Read the paper, even if it is paper talk and the reporter is mis quoting there is still an element of truth in it, I am not looking at this as a conspiracy or being contreversal, I am facing facts, read the interview and then say I am being contriversal.

Was he injured last night then?

I know he came off on Saturday, and seemed to be rubbing his shoulder again.

Yet according to MFR yesterday, we had a full squad to choose from, minus McGuire. No mention of Blackie being out. And there he was last night, on the pitch before the match having a kick about with the subs. Then he just stepped over the wall and came up and sat with his partner. He certainly didn't look injured.

IF he wasn't injured then that was a serious mistake by Brewter.....Blackie has been our one consistently good player this season. If he'd been on the park, then the Falkirk midfield wouldn't have got the acres of room they were getting most of the game.

So anyone know if was injured or dropped?

So my info was correct, has anyone read the DAILY MAIL page 117, this beggars belief, to quote the reporter, ""surprisingly dropped his fine form in the urrent campaign made his midwek exclusion all the more galling.""

Galling is not the word I would use, sheer madness or is it again that he cant stand Blackie, he is, one of the best we have he is a play maker, passes well, can read the game, for f--- s--- what are we doing, why is this happening, I am sitting here this morning, greeting my eyes oot, the frustrating thing is I can do nothing, we can do nothing, will he play him today, ? Yes I think so, not to play him is, for Brew, the biggest mistake of his career, ""Blacks futures far from certain""

why is this? again I say I told you so.

well i just hope blackie is fit and vigurs is put back in.....on tuesday we didnt have one midfielder that showed class or composure, we couldnt even keep the ball on the deck...it was a bloody horrible football to watch.

Fraser

Tokely Duff Munro McBain

Imirie Cowie Duncan Black Vigurs

Rooney/Barrowman

drop Hastings because he couldnt play a pass on the deck to save his life.

Blackie was feckin fit on Tuesday, so should be fit for saturday.

FIRST HALF

Fraser

Duff.........Munro..........Hastings

Procter..........Black........Duncan.......McBain

Cowie.........Imrie

Wood

SECOND HALF

Fraser

Procter...Duff....Munro....Hastings

Black

Wilson....Duncan....McBain....Imrie

Cowie

Wood

Subs

Viguars(McBain)

Barrowman(Wood)

Remaining Subs

Rooney

Esson

Tokley(Donkey)

Sutherland

well i just hope blackie is fit and vigurs is put back in.....on tuesday we didnt have one midfielder that showed class or composure, we couldnt even keep the ball on the deck...it was a bloody horrible football to watch.

Fraser

Tokely Duff Munro McBain

Imirie Cowie Duncan Black Vigurs

Rooney/Barrowman

drop Hastings because he couldnt play a pass on the deck to save his life.

Blackie was feckin fit on Tuesday, so should be fit for saturday.

FIRST HALF

Fraser

Duff.........Munro..........Hastings

Procter..........Black........Duncan.......McBain

Cowie.........Imrie

Wood

SECOND HALF

Fraser

Procter...Duff....Munro....Hastings

Black

Wilson....Duncan....McBain....Imrie

Cowie

Wood

Subs

Viguars(McBain)

Barrowman(Wood)

Remaining Subs

Rooney

Esson

Tokley(Donkey)

Sutherland

OOOPs sorry about that 12 payers instead of 11, take out Wilson and put him back on the bench, put Cowie out there.

Was he injured last night then?

I know he came off on Saturday, and seemed to be rubbing his shoulder again.

Yet according to MFR yesterday, we had a full squad to choose from, minus McGuire. No mention of Blackie being out. And there he was last night, on the pitch before the match having a kick about with the subs. Then he just stepped over the wall and came up and sat with his partner. He certainly didn't look injured.

IF he wasn't injured then that was a serious mistake by Brewter.....Blackie has been our one consistently good player this season. If he'd been on the park, then the Falkirk midfield wouldn't have got the acres of room they were getting most of the game.

So anyone know if was injured or dropped?

Not what I hear, though still a wee bit sore, not sore enough Not to play, I believe he thought he would be in the squad, so what happened, yet to find out, when I do i'll let you know, and you are spot on we did miss him. Big time.

As most on this site know Brewsters biggest problem is his ego. That is why Parky "left"( he was actually asked to leave so i believe), he couldnt handle Donald being more knowledgable about the game than him. Thats why he got Malky back against the whole squads wishes.

His ego has always been the problem, thwart him and you are out, as even some of the players have found out. Parky was pushed out because he had more knowledge, skill, compassion, and most importantly he had the respect of the players and Would NOT say YES to Brew, and Brew was not going to let this happen, Malky was brought back, because he makes Brew look good, or at least thats what Brew believes, take last weeks game, Malky spent more time facing the crowd sprouting P*** trying to convince us he knows what he is talking about, NOT Brews down fall will be he surrounds himself with a*** holes who have no experience or knowledge of the game, if he had the likes of Parky he could have bounced decisions off him, if he could get rid of the Look at Me I am the Manager syndrome, and share and listen to others including the players and their opinions he could go further, unfortunatly he has neither the mentality or insight to be able to see or understand this.

A good manager has to be able to listen, and learn from others, every day, you need to be able to earn respect and this comes from respecting others, a skill that has to be learned.

Take a bow!

For any particular part, or just all of it, thanks anyway, shame no one will listen and do something about it, we do pay the wages after all.

As most on this site know Brewsters biggest problem is his ego. That is why Parky "left"( he was actually asked to leave so i believe), he couldnt handle Donald being more knowledgable about the game than him. Thats why he got Malky back against the whole squads wishes.

His ego has always been the problem, thwart him and you are out, as even some of the players have found out. Parky was pushed out because he had more knowledge, skill, compassion, and most importantly he had the respect of the players and Would NOT say YES to Brew, and Brew was not going to let this happen, Malky was brought back, because he makes Brew look good, or at least thats what Brew believes, take last weeks game, Malky spent more time facing the crowd sprouting P*** trying to convince us he knows what he is talking about, NOT Brews down fall will be he surrounds himself with a*** holes who have no experience or knowledge of the game, if he had the likes of Parky he could have bounced decisions off him, if he could get rid of the Look at Me I am the Manager syndrome, and share and listen to others including the players and their opinions he could go further, unfortunatly he has neither the mentality or insight to be able to see or understand this.

A good manager has to be able to listen, and learn from others, every day, you need to be able to earn respect and this comes from respecting others, a skill that has to be learned.

This has had the look of a 0-0 rite from the off. Although Gary Wood could have - no should have - cancelled that prediction. We have two teams with little up front and cancelling themselves out in midfield. But we are the better team at half time but we have to change tactically.

The positives are that we are working our socks off, pressing all the time and holding a high line - the only way Cellic look like scoring is from a set piece or through Maloney - but to be honest the same can be said fer us but insert Cowie.

Tokely is sticking to his full back spot and doing very well, Munro and Maguire have strolled through the game, Hastings has not got a feckin clue going forward and I hope Strachan doesnt play McGeady as he has done with Maloney.

Imrie is having a cracker, working hard, sharp passing, running at men and giving Rosscoe a lot of support and only a great Boruc save stopped him scoring a 25 yard cracker of a free kick, Duncan is back to where he belongs - Black should have clearly had two yellow cards and shouldnt be on the park - he appears to be having one of his brainstorming days - I wouldnt be surprised if Brew hooks him - McBain is invisible - get Vigurson and let him run at Loovens - who looks really shaky but not being tested.

Cowie is back at his best - he is taking Naylot and Crosas to the feckin cleaners and they are clearly worried by his pace - if only he had some support. May be harsh but Wood is totally out of his league and his miss was a feckin sitter.

So I would hook Black as he is on the edge - and take McBain into the middle - bring on Vigurs and let him run at Loovens. I would hook Wood in 10-15 minutes and take on Rooney. If the game keeps going as it is I would love to hook McBain late on and see what Wilson could do on the right and push Cowie forward.

agree again, beginning to sound pathetic, i had a long chat with an annonomous friend today, blackie perhaps was having a brainstorming day, why was that, he hasnt had one for a long time, and only 2 yellow cards this season, well below others in the team, so the question is why, the answer i got i couldnt put in here, but what i can say is it seems perfectly feesable to me, but he needs to deal with it differently, my concern is he would be dropped to the reserves again.

Could someone translate Gillians post for me please?

Ever heard of full stops Gillian?

Let me, if Blackie was to come out and say why he was having a bad day, or I put on here what is being said and he dealt with it by confronting the other parties, he would be playing for the reserves. At least that is my opinion, so he dealt with his frustrations in the wrong way, but at present it is (or the only way he feels he can) his way of dealing with it, i believe it to be the wrong way, but im not in his shoes, he was called a trouble maker the last time, disrespectful and all the rest. Still he needs to find another way of dealing with his feelings instead of wearing them on his sleeve for every one too see.

And yes I can use full stops, but it takes longer.

Oh - I can understand yer post and I can sense Ian's frustrations - yet another testament to Brews lack of man management skills and his inability or arrogance to play our potential match winner in a role that would bring the best out of him and benefit the team. He was played in a role to stifle Cellic which was negative and prevented him from playing football - again Brew got it all wrong OR was trying to prove a personal point again. Ian Black's talent is being stifled and that is a footballing sin.

Comment Gillian ??

sent in a post IMH but it hasnt appeared, sorry.

This has had the look of a 0-0 rite from the off. Although Gary Wood could have - no should have - cancelled that prediction. We have two teams with little up front and cancelling themselves out in midfield. But we are the better team at half time but we have to change tactically.

The positives are that we are working our socks off, pressing all the time and holding a high line - the only way Cellic look like scoring is from a set piece or through Maloney - but to be honest the same can be said fer us but insert Cowie.

Tokely is sticking to his full back spot and doing very well, Munro and Maguire have strolled through the game, Hastings has not got a feckin clue going forward and I hope Strachan doesnt play McGeady as he has done with Maloney.

Imrie is having a cracker, working hard, sharp passing, running at men and giving Rosscoe a lot of support and only a great Boruc save stopped him scoring a 25 yard cracker of a free kick, Duncan is back to where he belongs - Black should have clearly had two yellow cards and shouldnt be on the park - he appears to be having one of his brainstorming days - I wouldnt be surprised if Brew hooks him - McBain is invisible - get Vigurson and let him run at Loovens - who looks really shaky but not being tested.

Cowie is back at his best - he is taking Naylot and Crosas to the feckin cleaners and they are clearly worried by his pace - if only he had some support. May be harsh but Wood is totally out of his league and his miss was a feckin sitter.

So I would hook Black as he is on the edge - and take McBain into the middle - bring on Vigurs and let him run at Loovens. I would hook Wood in 10-15 minutes and take on Rooney. If the game keeps going as it is I would love to hook McBain late on and see what Wilson could do on the right and push Cowie forward.

agree again, beginning to sound pathetic, i had a long chat with an annonomous friend today, blackie perhaps was having a brainstorming day, why was that, he hasnt had one for a long time, and only 2 yellow cards this season, well below others in the team, so the question is why, the answer i got i couldnt put in here, but what i can say is it seems perfectly feesable to me, but he needs to deal with it differently, my concern is he would be dropped to the reserves again.

Could someone translate Gillians post for me please?

Ever heard of full stops Gillian?

Let me, if Blackie was to come out and say why he was having a bad day, or I put on here what is being said and he dealt with it by confronting the other parties, he would be playing for the reserves. At least that is my opinion, so he dealt with his frustrations in the wrong way, but at present it is (or the only way he feels he can) his way of dealing with it, i believe it to be the wrong way, but im not in his shoes, he was called a trouble maker the last time, disrespectful and all the rest. Still he needs to find another way of dealing with his feelings instead of wearing them on his sleeve for every one too see.

And yes I can use full stops, but it takes longer.

Oh - I can understand yer post and I can sense Ian's frustrations - yet another testament to Brews lack of man management skills and his inability or arrogance to play our potential match winner in a role that would bring the best out of him and benefit the team. He was played in a role to stifle Cellic which was negative and prevented him from playing football - again Brew got it all wrong OR was trying to prove a personal point again. Ian Black's talent is being stifled and that is a footballing sin.

Comment Gillian ??

This has had the look of a 0-0 rite from the off. Although Gary Wood could have - no should have - cancelled that prediction. We have two teams with little up front and cancelling themselves out in midfield. But we are the better team at half time but we have to change tactically.

The positives are that we are working our socks off, pressing all the time and holding a high line - the only way Cellic look like scoring is from a set piece or through Maloney - but to be honest the same can be said fer us but insert Cowie.

Tokely is sticking to his full back spot and doing very well, Munro and Maguire have strolled through the game, Hastings has not got a feckin clue going forward and I hope Strachan doesnt play McGeady as he has done with Maloney.

Imrie is having a cracker, working hard, sharp passing, running at men and giving Rosscoe a lot of support and only a great Boruc save stopped him scoring a 25 yard cracker of a free kick, Duncan is back to where he belongs - Black should have clearly had two yellow cards and shouldnt be on the park - he appears to be having one of his brainstorming days - I wouldnt be surprised if Brew hooks him - McBain is invisible - get Vigurson and let him run at Loovens - who looks really shaky but not being tested.

Cowie is back at his best - he is taking Naylot and Crosas to the feckin cleaners and they are clearly worried by his pace - if only he had some support. May be harsh but Wood is totally out of his league and his miss was a feckin sitter.

So I would hook Black as he is on the edge - and take McBain into the middle - bring on Vigurs and let him run at Loovens. I would hook Wood in 10-15 minutes and take on Rooney. If the game keeps going as it is I would love to hook McBain late on and see what Wilson could do on the right and push Cowie forward.

agree again, beginning to sound pathetic, i had a long chat with an annonomous friend today, blackie perhaps was having a brainstorming day, why was that, he hasnt had one for a long time, and only 2 yellow cards this season, well below others in the team, so the question is why, the answer i got i couldnt put in here, but what i can say is it seems perfectly feesable to me, but he needs to deal with it differently, my concern is he would be dropped to the reserves again.

Could someone translate Gillians post for me please?

Ever heard of full stops Gillian?

Let me, if Blackie was to come out and say why he was having a bad day, or I put on here what is being said and he dealt with it by confronting the other parties, he would be playing for the reserves. At least that is my opinion, so he dealt with his frustrations in the wrong way, but at present it is (or the only way he feels he can) his way of dealing with it, i believe it to be the wrong way, but im not in his shoes, he was called a trouble maker the last time, disrespectful and all the rest. Still he needs to find another way of dealing with his feelings instead of wearing them on his sleeve for every one too see.

And yes I can use full stops, but it takes longer.

Oh - I can understand yer post and I can sense Ian's frustrations - yet another testament to Brews lack of man management skills and his inability or arrogance to play our potential match winner in a role that would bring the best out of him and benefit the team. He was played in a role to stifle Cellic which was negative and prevented him from playing football - again Brew got it all wrong OR was trying to prove a personal point again. Ian Black's talent is being stifled and that is a footballing sin.

Comment Gillian ??

This has had the look of a 0-0 rite from the off. Although Gary Wood could have - no should have - cancelled that prediction. We have two teams with little up front and cancelling themselves out in midfield. But we are the better team at half time but we have to change tactically.

The positives are that we are working our socks off, pressing all the time and holding a high line - the only way Cellic look like scoring is from a set piece or through Maloney - but to be honest the same can be said fer us but insert Cowie.

Tokely is sticking to his full back spot and doing very well, Munro and Maguire have strolled through the game, Hastings has not got a feckin clue going forward and I hope Strachan doesnt play McGeady as he has done with Maloney.

Imrie is having a cracker, working hard, sharp passing, running at men and giving Rosscoe a lot of support and only a great Boruc save stopped him scoring a 25 yard cracker of a free kick, Duncan is back to where he belongs - Black should have clearly had two yellow cards and shouldnt be on the park - he appears to be having one of his brainstorming days - I wouldnt be surprised if Brew hooks him - McBain is invisible - get Vigurson and let him run at Loovens - who looks really shaky but not being tested.

Cowie is back at his best - he is taking Naylot and Crosas to the feckin cleaners and they are clearly worried by his pace - if only he had some support. May be harsh but Wood is totally out of his league and his miss was a feckin sitter.

So I would hook Black as he is on the edge - and take McBain into the middle - bring on Vigurs and let him run at Loovens. I would hook Wood in 10-15 minutes and take on Rooney. If the game keeps going as it is I would love to hook McBain late on and see what Wilson could do on the right and push Cowie forward.

agree again, beginning to sound pathetic, i had a long chat with an annonomous friend today, blackie perhaps was having a brainstorming day, why was that, he hasnt had one for a long time, and only 2 yellow cards this season, well below others in the team, so the question is why, the answer i got i couldnt put in here, but what i can say is it seems perfectly feesable to me, but he needs to deal with it differently, my concern is he would be dropped to the reserves again.

Could someone translate Gillians post for me please?

Ever heard of full stops Gillian?

Let me, if Blackie was to come out and say why he was having a bad day, or I put on here what is being said and he dealt with it by confronting the other parties, he would be playing for the reserves. At least that is my opinion, so he dealt with his frustrations in the wrong way, but at present it is (or the only way he feels he can) his way of dealing with it, i believe it to be the wrong way, but im not in his shoes, he was called a trouble maker the last time, disrespectful and all the rest. Still he needs to find another way of dealing with his feelings instead of wearing them on his sleeve for every one too see.

And yes I can use full stops, but it takes longer.

This has had the look of a 0-0 rite from the off. Although Gary Wood could have - no should have - cancelled that prediction. We have two teams with little up front and cancelling themselves out in midfield. But we are the better team at half time but we have to change tactically.

The positives are that we are working our socks off, pressing all the time and holding a high line - the only way Cellic look like scoring is from a set piece or through Maloney - but to be honest the same can be said fer us but insert Cowie.

Tokely is sticking to his full back spot and doing very well, Munro and Maguire have strolled through the game, Hastings has not got a feckin clue going forward and I hope Strachan doesnt play McGeady as he has done with Maloney.

Imrie is having a cracker, working hard, sharp passing, running at men and giving Rosscoe a lot of support and only a great Boruc save stopped him scoring a 25 yard cracker of a free kick, Duncan is back to where he belongs - Black should have clearly had two yellow cards and shouldnt be on the park - he appears to be having one of his brainstorming days - I wouldnt be surprised if Brew hooks him - McBain is invisible - get Vigurson and let him run at Loovens - who looks really shaky but not being tested.

Cowie is back at his best - he is taking Naylot and Crosas to the feckin cleaners and they are clearly worried by his pace - if only he had some support. May be harsh but Wood is totally out of his league and his miss was a feckin sitter.

So I would hook Black as he is on the edge - and take McBain into the middle - bring on Vigurs and let him run at Loovens. I would hook Wood in 10-15 minutes and take on Rooney. If the game keeps going as it is I would love to hook McBain late on and see what Wilson could do on the right and push Cowie forward.

agree again, beginning to sound pathetic, i had a long chat with an annonomous friend today, blackie perhaps was having a brainstorming day, why was that, he hasnt had one for a long time, and only 2 yellow cards this season, well below others in the team, so the question is why, the answer i got i couldnt put in here, but what i can say is it seems perfectly feesable to me, but he needs to deal with it differently, my concern is he would be dropped to the reserves again.

So if it was a 4-5-1 away from home - who would the first choice be. Mine would be Barrowman becos he has more experience, more movement, a better first touch and he is a more natural goalscorer. My second choice would be Rooney as he is more mobile than Wood.

I?d like to see Rooney given a run of games ? he looks more hungry, does more running and links better with the wide players. Obviously, he?s not proven as a goalscorer, but neither is Barrowman.

In my view, Wood did much better than expected on Saturday and caused Celtic's defence some problems. He needs to work on his first touch though as too many times he got himself in a good position around the edge of the box but lost the ball by just failing to control it. He looked more assured once Rooney was on with him.

How can anybody be as thick as they look ?

The question is... when will the time be right? when certain individuals move on?

No I think it will come out before any individuals move on

But some of us know already but are under censure to keep their gobs shut !!

IMH as usual I agree with most of what you have said, he changes the team and the positions every week, and not for the better, if it is working why change it, not my usual stance, however he needs to let the team gel, stop them becoming frustrated, leading to fall outs, he dosnt seem to be able to cope with competition and I dont mean the visiting teams.

That was a feckin good feedback gillian - remind me to show ya how to use the smileys. How is yer sons shoulder today ?

IHE my son is a daughter,but thanks, her shoulder is fine, Blackies on the other hand not so sure, it was a bad one, but as long as he is fit for the celtic game, when you say good feed back do you agree with it all or just some of it, I try and to be honest I get tired repeating myself but week after week I despair, I think when I see the starting 11, Yes, 45mins later or should I say 75mins later, for F--- S--- has he had a mental block

just back from the game, oh the attendance was i think over 6000. em i felt we were unlucky today, maybe deserved a draw, we missed blackie in the second half i think. just need to get that ball in the back the net, bounce of the ball in the box maybe against us but we are creating chances, just need to finish them. individually i thought our best players were black, vigurs, duff and cowie. barrowman put up a good fight against the two big horses at the back, however, it was our two ian's who were again passing the ball on the deck every chance they got...black and vigurs look frustrated at lack of movement from other players in the team...top football brains these two, maybe noone else on the same wave length...its a shame. all in all a bit unlucky to lose the game, a draw a fair result.

My analysis of the game, Fraser-good game, no chance with first goal, the result of Duff's inexperience,no help from defence for the second goal, otherwise a good game, Tokely-running up and down the park(his usual self) gets no where (again as usual) posted missing on a number of occassions, Duff-his inexperience showed, resulting in the first goal, however has a lot of potential, probably more than McGuire and Munro, better football player,where were the experienced players, they should be helping him, Munro-did OK!,still wondering if he can actually play the beloved game, his left foot MUST be sore, the number of times he BOOTS the ball up the park beggers belief, can he PASS the ball,( I keep repeating myself), I have yet to see it, Hastings-tries to play football, tries to pass the ball,lacks concentration at times when defending, can cost us, Imrie-busy on the park, his final ball always lets him down, McBain-Busy, good going forward, but old legs getting weary, Cowie-Busy,worked hard, put himself about, with no end results, Vigurs- good game, composed, tries to play football, needs the assistance of the experienced players, good potential, if mentored correctly, Blackie-shakey in the first 5 mins, then became composed, used the ball well, covered the park, definetly lost it when he went off, Bannerman-didnt work hard enough, flatters to decieve, needs to be stronger when the ball is played into his feet, or body, didnt do anything yesterday, I thought he should have scored, but didnt want to get dirty. Yet again Brew's subs?

Ian Black will one day be worth a fortune - he will outstay Brewster and potentially have a better career.

If only you were right, but unfortunatly on this occassion I dont think so

from a source, that i believe to be reliable, todays decisions by brew made it clear, blackie not being considered for a new contract.

has any one read the daily record this morning, blackie saying club have NOT approached him yet, looks as if source may bee onto something, blackie saying he wants to sort things out, then why are we stalling, sad day for us if he goes.

Everyone has a warn notice under their name, so long as it's at 0% then you have nothing to worry about.

can you tell me, is this why the match thread from yesterday etc is missing?

I did see the majority of the posts before they were taken down.

If you re-read what i sed. I am saying, it deteriorated BECAUSE any reference to the subject matter was rapidly taken off the site, regardless of depth of detail. That got ppls backs up, so, it turned into a battle of wills

As much as it may make me sound like a total b*****d, there's no "battle of wills" to be won here. We have always, where possible, tried to respect the private lives of players/staff at the stadium when it came to unfounded rumours. That will not change and if people want to continue to make extra work for the site moderators when we have made it perfectly clear that we will not allow it then they will simply have their posting privileges removed.

Our stance on this is not open to discussion or any attempts at "Mob Rule" and the situation will not be allowed to escalate to the position it did yesterday when the few moderators who were around spent more time clearing up after people who can't respect a simple request than they did following the match and having what should have been an enjoyable afternoon listening to ICT winning a game in great fashion.

These guys were far more tolerant than I would have been had I not been away most of the weekend and they got no thanks for it from a handful of site users...I won't allow that to continue.

Caley D, have I upset some one, I have a warn notice under my name al be it, it is at 0%, why is this?

I was about to post a thread asking if anything had apppeared in NOTW.

Well...I, for one, am not one of those feeling ashamed today. As I viewed my doubts over the legitimacy of these rumours via PMs yesterday with certain board members.

I still think the mods were a bit trigger happy with most of the moderation going on. Seemed the word Brewster was off limits yesterday. We are all grown ups, and had the topic allowed to have been discussed, i think it would have been handled in a grown up fashion. Its the fact that it was approached in such a "nanny state" manner that resulted in all shennanigans, leading to the mods having a difficult day.

What have I missed?

from a source, that i believe to be reliable, todays decisions by brew made it clear, blackie not being considered for a new contract.

Emm, whats a holocost got to do with a players performance on the park Gillian? does not seem like a good word to describe what a footballer plays like.

I stand corrected Calley 100, you are right wrong choice of words, but sh---, or give me strength, or geeees what the h---,is this enough and I am not being sarcastic, oh and the daughter has deleted her spell check before I am picked up for the spelling, not one of my strong points.

Does anyone else have a problem with Brewsters baffling substitutions?

Now this is the second week in a row where Brewsters made the right choices of who to put on... but not who to take off!

First and foremost Imrie should have gone off for Vigurs and NOT McBain

Barrowman should have come off for Wood and NOT Rooney

And most off all! ANYONE BUT Black should have come off for Wilson! Hope Brewster heard the boo's over that decision and knew they were for him and not Black!

I don't know what the hell he sees on the pitch that the rest of us don't, but whatever it is, the choices he makes are shocking at the best of times! And he always leaves it to late to, never giving his final substitution a decent chance when he only comes on in the last 5-10 mins (if their lucky) then expects them to do wonders.

I'm angry at the performance today because it was SHOCKING but the substitutions continue to get me worked up more!

I agree with most of the above, sitting in the car, and to say I am devestated is putting it mildly,McBain should have stayed on and Barrowman was having a holocost but Rooney was doing okay, gaining in confidence, and Black was the best player on the pitch and I dont mean just for ICT I mean the pitch, and did Brew hear the boo's No I dont think he did, and even if he did, what does he care, and leaving it too late, well isnt that the story of ICT lives, I could go on and on and on and on but what is the point, unless Brew is trying to tell us something.

I BELIEVE IT MAY BE ALREADY TOO LATE, AS THE SAYING GOES IF YOUR NOT FAST YOU ARE LAST, YHE STORY OF OUR LIVES,