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What doesn't sit right with me is that, why on earth after receiving a clear international certificate from the FA would even ask the question if he was eligible to play or not. Seems like SFA are trying to cover their own mistakes up.

As I said before, the only way we can get this sorted is if the FA or Liverpool confirm the ban was served.

It's really all guesswork on my part but their silence is quite interesting. I thought they would have taken the opportunity to put it to bed by now.

Going by what the SFL said Hearts done the assessments and were given all clear. Hearts aren't in the wrong unless the player himself knew his suspension was not served and both parties carried on anyways cause SFA said he could.

BBC picking this story up now. Inverness are seeking clarification over the eligibility of Hearts player Danny Wilson for last Saturday's League Cup semi-final. The Highland side failed to reach their first major cup final, losing to Hearts on penalties at Easter Road . The query relates to a suspension he picked up whilst with Rangers in 2010. "As a result of discussions that have taken place, the club will be seeking further details and an explanation," said an Inverness CT statement. The Scottish Football Association yesterday stated that Wilson was eligible to play, but it's unclear as to when the one-game ban was served. Wilson's ban, specifically for one Scottish League Cup game , is recorded in SFA documentation dated March 2010. The 21-year-old was sent off in the 2010 League Cup final, as a nine-man Rangers team defeated St Mirren . The defender moved to Liverpool before the suspension could be served, but the Inverness statement continued: "There was no notice of suspension accompanying his registration paperwork when he returned from Liverpool." Wilson's Liverpool debut came in an English League Cup tie at home against Northampton. Should there be no confirmation of when Wilson served his ban, it is possible that the Highland side could challenge the outcome of the match. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21239532

Why haven't Hearts or SFA/SFL made a statement over it? All we have had is STV speaking to a spokesman.

Interesting analogy on Jambos Kickback. "Guys, this is very simple. Could there have been **** up with regards to Wilson's suspension? Yes. Could it be Hearts or the SFA/SFL/SPL's fault? No. Wilson was sent off in the 2010 LC final for non-violent conduct. As a result, the suspension is delayed until the next Scottish League Cup match. Had the player remained in Scotland, he would have missed the first league cup game (of whoever he was playing for). However, DW transferred to Liverpool in July 2010. When a player transfers across borders he is issued an International Transfer Certificate which originates with Home FA (SFA) , sent via FIFA, to the new club's FA (the English FA). Detailed on that certificate is any suspensions that is carried with the player. The reason for the International Travel Certificates and the carrying of suspensions, is to stop players just transferring to other countries if they are suspended for long periods of time. For example, Joey Barton received an unprecedented 12 match suspension back in 2010. If the International Travel Certificates did not carry suspensions, he could simply have transferred to another country and continued playing as normal - not exactly fair is it? On the DW's certificate from Rangers to Liverpool, a suspension of 1 domestic match was detailed. DW received another FIFA International Transfer Certificate when he moved from Liverpool to Hearts. No suspensions were listed. Did DW serve his suspension at Liverpool? Possibly. He certainly missed a number of EPL games at the start of the season. Hobos on deepthroat.net have tracked down a guardian article where it lists no suspensions for the game against Arsenal. This is either factually incorrect (most likely scenario) or the FA have not imposed the suspension which carried over from his transfer from Rangers. If the (English) FA have not, then the (English) FA are at fault and should have detailed the suspension. However, given the fact that he did not feature in the Arsenal game (the game the suspension would have covered), it's a moot point. Regardless of the situation, under FIFA transfer rules and SFA/SPL/SFL rules he would not have been suspended for the LC semi regardless. This is backed up by 1) the aforementioned rules 2) the suspension list issued by the SFA last week 3) clarification by HoMFC to the SFA last week. There's only one possible organisation that could've messed up on this and that is the (English) FA. Regardless it has absolutely nothing to do with Hearts or the SFA/SPL/SFL and is backed up by legal documents. This is very simple."

Still there. It's on the Hearts page on STV website.

Did Danny Wilson know he could of been suspended? If he brought it to the attention of Hearts then obviously knew he hadn't served any ban.

First of all, I am well aware that the ban is competition specific. What I have seen and told is that the because he changed country it would apply to the first game of that very season. All we need is the FA to confirm or deny that to be the case. If it is the case, we move on. If it isn't the case then we pursue even further. Maybe you'd like to share with the rest of us what you have seen. I and others have read through all the rules, that are freely available online, and we can find no reference to any punishment being carried across associations. From talking to Ewen Murray on twitter and reading the Jambos Kickback forum suggests that to be the case however while writing this I do understand there would be an obvious agenda for both sources to be in favour of Hearts. Like many of you, I would love an explanation to put this all to bed and we can move on. My personal opinion is that Danny Wilson was suspended for the game on Saturday and the SFA/SFL had no clue. Only until Hibs fans brought this to our attentions. If we fight this to the death, we could gain something out of this.

First of all, I am well aware that the ban is competition specific. What I have seen and told is that the because he changed country it would apply to the first game of that very season. All we need is the FA to confirm or deny that to be the case. If it is the case, we move on. If it isn't the case then we pursue even further. Not to nit pick or anything but it was a straight red that Wilson got for denying a goal scoring opportunity.

The only governing body that can make or break this situation is the FA. Hearts are banking on the suspension being served on the first league game of 2010/2011.

No I mean taking it to the court, if the FA say he never served the ban in England.

Hypothetically, could we do the same thing Rangers did with regards their transfer ban?

Yeah but the SFA are the ones who registered Danny Wilson's loan.

That's better. I wonder who the discussions were between this afternoon?

What first game of what season? What 25 man squad? Wilson has not served a suspension in the competition he was suspended for. He was sent of in the League Cup final and went south at the end of that season. The year that Danny Wilson transferred to Liverpool, people were saying he served the suspension then cause he wasn't included in the squad. The same year the 25 man rule was included in the EPL, Danny Wilson wasn't named in the 25 but as he was under 21 he could play at anytime. With Danny Wilson not being picked for the squad for their game against Arsenal I'm 2010, it makes it easier for them to say he served it. End of the day, the ban was competition specific. We need the FA to speak up about this.

Not sure if he was part of the 25 man squad but he was definitely not listed in the starting XI or as a substitute. And as has been pointed out already, he was not listed as suspended. Is a Journo really gonna remember if he was suspended? Found this also http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1308165/Liverpool-25-man-Premier-League-squad-2010-11.html

People are saying Wilson served it on the first game of that season. Just crossed my mind, was Wilson part of the 25 man squad?

He wasn't a penalty taker. Zaliukas, Ngoo, Novikovas, Touil and Webster took them.

This needs to be fought to the death. It's clear as day he was supposed to be suspended. I actually wonder if the SFA may have consider this in a more serious matter if Celtic won yesterday.

What's annoying me about this is that fine fair enough the boy had a clear certificate when he came back to Scotland but they won't bother their arses to actually find out from the FA if indeed he actually served the ban. The club can ask the SFA but the vital question is being left unanswered - Was the ban actually served? It's happened before. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-472843/Ban-glee-McCulloch.html Sure it's a technical glitch and we lost on the day yada yada yada... however Danny Wilson played 120 minutes of football and played a part in an equaliser. What would have happened if he served his ban? We could of been at Hampden in March.

That report suggests to me that SFL are saying its not our problem. Ask the FA. I hope the club investigate this further.

HT: 0-1 FT: 2-1 1st ICT: McKay 1st Hearts: Ngoo Crowd: 15822 1st Yellow: Wilson

One Terry Butcher was sung during the game today, time it was sung was irrelevant.