MrCaleyjag

52 minutes ago, ICTPaisley said:

Who remembers this idiot 

He's simply a , not worthy of being included in the discussion anymore.

I think we can close this thread now 

I've never been one for celebrating survival as I'm a firm believer that you're there for a footballing reason and it's not something to celebrate however this one is different, so much more riding on it and the two biggest cheers of the season in our house came when Dumbarton went 1 up then 2 up.

Fantastic achievement for the players and staff, to rally after going into admin, deal with the cuts, the disappointment, the furore surrounding the club and turn in a points tally that they have since going into admin is superb. If I'm correct, three teams didn't achieve that points tally over the whole season, maybe four.

Whether we're full time or not doesn't matter as you can only deal with what's in front of you, even to pick themselves up from disappointing results and bounce back shows a big element of resilience and I can't applaud them enough.

Simply superb 

5 hours ago, Eagle4Caley said:

Given how thin our squad is, I would say this was a blessing. I understand Savage was taken off injured, was it serious or precautionary,... with Davidson and Ewan out, we are just a Devine injury away from a major crisis

He was holding his lower back in the first half a few times and seemed to be his back they were working on when he went down before coming off. The bench had shouted over once or twice in the first half, I'm guessing to check on him so wonder if it was an underlying issue, hopefully just a pull or strain.

Thought it was a very scrappy game not helped by the referee who seemed to blow for any little thing to the point my daughter was asking what the fouls were for and she's 10. The near side assistant wasn't any better, totally arrogant tbh. A couple of times I forgot I was sitting in the main stand and was a bit vocal towards them.

It wasn't a 2v0 game, nor did I think they created enough to win, one of those where either side would have been happy with nicking it. My general impression was that if we could have got the ball in behind them for Louis to run onto, he would have had a far better chance of getting in on goal. Instead everything was played in front of them for us to try and get through and it generally didn't work, we needed to mix it up a little. The one time I remember a ball being flashed across in the second half, Billy was inches from the header.   

8 minutes ago, STFU said:

Anyone else confused by the comment about no sideshows and then talk about bringing in a restaurant franchise?

Restaurants etc are failing across the whole of the uk just now on almost an hourly basis. The idea that anyone is going to open one at the stadium with those existing risks and in an untested location is up there with running our own concerts, battery farms and the like.

My first initial thought was that it would be some kind of quick service/fast food style franchise that would work hand-in-hand with the stadium opening hours/business model that way appealing more to the type of service that would be easily achievable on a fast basis such as matchday.

People don't want to be sitting about for food as such.

If it is a sit-down fuss then I think I agree with your assessment above.

17 minutes ago, Robert said:

My thoughts are with all those who will learn their fate tomorrow and I just hope all those who learn they are leaving are treated properly by the club.  

This 

Thank you to DF, GB and SG for their hard work and time put in at the club and wish them the best in the future. I'm sure they'll find equal if not better employment elsewhere within the football world. I'm not best placed at present to offer any further opinions especially on DF as it would be ill-placed and I've said a lot already.

It's the hard workers behind the scenes that will find it harder and tougher in the coming days, weeks and months and are so often overlooked in these situations.

It doesn't pay for the new outlets to focus on the unsung behind the scenes staff which is why they'll all gush about DF.

On 10/11/2024 at 10:53 PM, dougiedanger said:

Am guessing you wouldn't be seeing administration as such a great thing if your job was on the line.

Sadly, the first employees to get let go are the hard workers behind the scenes who run the football club from day to day. The ones that everyone forgets about that need their jobs the most.

Now I'm not saying that players, managers and coaches don't need their jobs, of course they do, but they have agents who can help them find further employment. They are almost always on the higher end of the payscale at the club and are somewhat protected by league rules and the Scottish PFA so are harder to oust.

It must be an administrators nightmare knowing there's obvious outlays to reduce costs but the only way they can be freed is by moving them on or coming to a mutual agreement. Players and managers won't leave unless they have other employment elsewhere.

Not as easy as making the receptionist redundant for instance.

I suppose the biggest issue for a club our size is, where do those obvious cost cuttings come from as I can't imagine we have an abundance of staff behind the scenes.

I hardly see DF as the type of person who'll step up and take strips home to wash or hoover the reception carpet when there's nearly no staff left and jobs to do.

On 10/11/2024 at 5:23 PM, STFU said:

Not a question that can be answered until we see the impact on the football personnel/players as a result of administration.

Totally agree and whatever personnel/players we do retain or have at our disposal, must be fully committed to starting almost from scratch and looking forward.

On the pitch it starts with the manager and for me DF needs to go.

We need someone who is forward thinking, someone who'll set out with an attractive forward thinking style of play, be open to progressing both personally and progressing players with a 2 season minimum plan in place. Whether we can avoid relegation or not, we need someone who portrays a belief that we can, not someone who outwardly states we can't simply just to save his own skin by being able to say at the end of the season 'well I told you so meaning I haven't failed' - he's already trying to save his own credibility, whether he has any left or not.

If we survive administration in any form, it needs to be treated as a complete reset, a new starting point with measuring points 1, 2, 3, 5yrs down the line.

A playing team, coaching staff included, that has no negativity what so ever.

It should be about fighting for everything that's left this season and building foundations for being in League 1 with a League 2 budget. If we go down then so be it, we're already working to that budget. If we stay up, it's a bonus. 

Anything right now is a bonus but sadly DF is not.

Daily Mail - other than the Daily Sport is the lowest form of tabloid journalism going, on par with The Sun - not worthy of my time

Scott Gardiner - lowest form of upper level management personnel in the market, serial liar, incompetent to the core, vicious, vendictictive and rotten through and through - not worthy of my time

Put together - I wouldn't even read this is if it were on a roll of loo roll and I needed to whittle away the time in the toilet due to a bad bout of constipation.

2 minutes ago, CaleyCiuin said:

I know for a fact the club has an accountant. I know for a fact that an additional accountant was brought in from Orion Group to assist this person. I accept that challenges may have been made to the previous CEO or that person didnt feel able to do so. The original accountant and the one from Orion have an office in the club. 

That wasn't my point, I'm not doubting the above regards an accountant role.

I'm asking if you know for a fact the club accountant didn't challenge the CEO?

If you don't know that for a fact or only accept they may have, then you can't throw accusations around like your last statement.

Blame the board and the CEO.

3 hours ago, CaleyCiuin said:

There is a Club accountant who must have had to process all the outgoing payments. Surely the accountant should have raised the alarm to the board if one person was spending more money than was in the accounts. As guilty as the rest of them for not challenging the CEO over years!!!!!

I'm presuming you know that this is fact and that they were as culpable? I'm also presuming you know as a fact that said person didn't challenge the CEO or others?

If you do know that for a fact then I agree with your last statement.

However, hearing the way that the CEO ran the club along with the complete lack of transparency of anything from within the club plus the cloak and dagger approach of the inner workings of the club, under the past CEO, is it not a more tangible thought that the club accountant was overruled, not listened to and told what to do?

Or simply, those above the club accountant or similar position kept burying their heads in the sand.

Maybe we shouldn't hang so many people so easily unless we know the facts.

I know people want answers and the likelihood is they won't come but the blame falls firmly at the feet of the board members at the time and the CEO. 

Why is there even a question over whether certain people (fans) have donated or whether the Supporters Trust have donated even being asked? Whether in jest or not, this is not the time to be singling out individuals and diverting attention from the actual cause and from those who are the only ones who the attention should be on and being questioned and that's the BOARD!

Personally, I haven't donated for varying reasons but that doesn't mean I'm wrong in not doing so.

Every ounce of anger and questioning and feeling of doubt and ill-feeling should be fully thrown at the board (members past and present) for allowing the situation to get this bad.

Every single one of us, every single fan, has something to lose in some aspect whether it be financial or otherwise. The Supporters Trust, like every other shareholder, has something to lose so if you're going to question the Trust over funds or allocation of funds, where's your questions publically of every other shareholder that has a vested interested in the club? Or is it merely that the Supporters Trust is an easy target as at present, other that the board and AS, they are the most visible and therefore an easy target?!

Be angry at the right people. Question the right people. 

The people who have caused this don't want that to happen, they want your anger deflected elsewhere.

On 8/31/2024 at 3:08 PM, Yngwie said:

Well that was a waste of an hour. They said a few times that this interview was coming up, it never happened, nor did they ever say that it would no longer be happening for whatever reason.

To be fair, they lost all communications with all the grounds around 2pm and struggled to get it all back by 3pm which I took to be the contributing factor as to why they never had the interview. I assumed it was going to be live judging by that.

As they've already covered the developments in recent weeks/months, I would think they'll have AS on again when next convenient.

There's no way he's taken that paycut voluntarily, I don't care how it's been reported. More likely he's been told its happening or he's out but they'll let it play out that way in the media.

Regardless, doesn't change my views on him. Anything less than a win today and he has to be out, never wanted him from the word go anyway and nothing he has said or done has changed my views.

Might be a good coach but he's a terrible manager. Much easier to train/coach players when you've a manager dictating how you coach rather than you doing it all yourself, the proof is in the pudding.

He's the clown thats not realised the circus has left town.

3 hours ago, ClickbaitProponent said:

From the standpoint of the battery farm, I am wondering how the said Councillors are feeling given that they almost cost local people their jobs. I hope the people of Inverness remember it during election time. Those clowns have truly shot themselves in the foot. I would love to see them lose their seats. I for one will be reminding people. 

It does make you wonder if Gardiner had not been involved if the battery farm would have gone through smoothly? 

 

Looking at it from a different viewpoint, could the councillors you refer to have stopped people already with money lining their own pockets even more? 

The way this has all played out, I would be very surprised if the supposed guardians of our club had any intention of using the proceeds to clear any of the clubs debts and use it as the rescue package they claimed it would be. It was only a matter of time before the club ended up on it's knees regardless of the many fishy deals these chancers tried to implement.

Perhaps we should applaud these councillors for bringing forward what inevitably was going to happen anyway and bringing everything out in the fore unwittingly. I'm not saying they knew or had this foresight but regardless whether it be this deal or not, there would have had to have been one last final failed venture and this was it, the council just happened to be rapped up into it and are too easy to blame. 

It wouldn't have been them causing people to lose their jobs, it would have been our boards fault.

It was one failed deal too many that these guardians had used the clubs name to try and fill their own accounts until they finally realised the club couldn't be used as a credit negotiator anymore. They were exposing the club to all the liabilities and not themselves, just remember that.

It's happened so many times over, in the past at various clubs and will happen again. 

1 hour ago, caley1 said:

Wonder where Dunc and Bollan got their coaching badges from ? Great what you can pick up nowadays . 

You can buy all sorts on Temu 

3 hours ago, big cherly said:

Bear in mind SG has a watertight contract and will not depart until he gets what he thinks he can get.  

 

Of this I have no doubt, people like this are always self-preserving, pity this outlook wasn't attributed to his day-to-day work and contracts/applications signed on behalf of the club/put forward on behalf of the club were as watertight.

One more reminder post to see if it entices anyone else to join.

Got 11 willing participants so far.

It's that time of the year again where we get excited for the start of the league season, only for excitement to be extinguished by reality 

On the other hand it does mean I get to cut and paste to bring you the NAPs.

Head over to the Betting Forum for the new seasons opening week.

l will post them tomorrow evening.

(Mods, I'll unpin/unfeature this post in a week or two)

What are the rules, does it have to be an offer on the same wage or higher to trigger the development fee or can it be less than the players current contract thats due to run out?

If the later then surely regardless of situation you offer something to trigger the fee should it come to that. Either it's a lack of care or lack of understanding the laws of governance in the game.

I'm happy to be stood corrected as I'm sure someone will know the ruling better than my understanding.

12 minutes ago, Fraz said:

I don't think there's anything to be gained going back and forth with this. You feel SG hasn't had any influence as to what's been happening on the pitch and all we need to do is give the club more money. Got it.

I agree with @Fraz, you've had your say on more than one occasion and he's had his, move on.

What are you going to do, single out every poster and question why they don't want to renew their season ticket just now? There's lots, everyone has a valid reason.

I like to buy my bread at Asda, my wife likes to buy it at Tesco, in the end Mr Warburton gets his money. 

If fans buy now or buy later, the club still gets the money but for most it means SG doesn't if they wait. 

It's simple.

4 minutes ago, Fraz said:

We used to do it alternative years but if memory serves since moving to Puma it's been 2 new strips every season. I presume to make more money. 

In my head, a strip a season alternating makes more money. Who has enough money to buy two a season these days? Where's a new one every season fans are more accepting.

Reverse economics in a way.

Like you say though, it'll be driven by the manufacturer and likely a term of their contract.

11 hours ago, CELTIC1CALEY3 said:

The biggest problem could be changing Ferguson's mindset about using local players. In that respect, I hope Lewis Hyde is brought in from the cold. Cameron Ferguson may be an actual signing which over a season might pay dividends.

If the board actually grow a back bone and are serious about having a team of local/young players then he should have no choice; put up, shut up and get on with it otherwise tatty byes and see you later.

Possibly a twist of the hand from a board who see no way out and hope he'll walk.

On the other hand, give him some rope at the start of the season, if we field and team and have a club, and he might just hang himself (figuratively speaking of course) 

On 6/15/2024 at 5:29 PM, old caley girl said:

No. New away kit release next week 

SG is just finalising the correct shade of orange, one last act of defiance from a man who's on his way out.

Seriously though, I've never understood why teams would release home and away for the same season. Alternate it and keep a strip for two years.

A strips a strip in my eyes, like other middle aged posters on here, I much prefer training tops, polo's etc. 

It's ok though, we'll continue to pay Gardiner, Ferguson, Dodds and Robbo to the tune of five figures a week combined. 

Genuinely, when you think you've heard it all, I knew more would come out but not to this tune. 

If the club goes under, you wonder how the Supporters Trust would feel about stepping in to help Aaron. After all the fans and Trust members surely would back it given the additional backing, members and funds that have been taken in.