MrCaleyjag

I do think Dunfermline will win on Saturday but don't see them challenging to come of the foot of the table, a team will always get a boost from a new manager coming in, it's only natural that they'd want to make an impression and try that little bit harder however they just don't have the spine of a team that they require to drag them up.

If you look at all the teams in the bottom six too many of them are going through bad runs and I just don't see any of them going on a prolonged run of wins to drag them up from the positions they are in. Even if after the split we are in the same position I just don't see both Hibs and Dunfermline putting together enough wins together to bring them up the league, if anything we'll all take points from each other and the positions won't alter that much.

There's more chance of St Mirren being dragged down below us than Dunfermline making it above us in my opinion.

I'm sure we all moan about the same thing every year when a new strip is in the offing whether it be home or away and tbh doesn't it get just a bit boring? Not bored of everyone moaning about it more that we actually have to moan about it as we shouldn't have to, not at the price we have to pay for them.

I agree with Old Caley Girl with respect to the away one before last, it was awful and mine had more resemblance to a ball of wool a kitten had got to rather than a football top!!

When is someone actually going to take notice of the fact that the quality is just plain sh#te, do we all need to stop buying replica tops to make a point?

It is only with the strips as well, I have one of the big heavy jackets, it's warm and durable and shows no signs of wear unlike the replica strips.

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1st Opp: Sandaza

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1st ICT: Tade

1st Opp: Fallon

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Annan @ 2.37 please

If what I have heard proves to be true then the problems purely at Rangers are not all CW has to contend with at the moment. Suggestions have been made to me that just over a week ago CW received a letter from the police warning him that his life was in danger and several threats have been made against it not to mention that a hit has been ordered also.

I believe he massively underestimated the backlash and fallout that would occur through doing what he has done and right from the outset he had it in his mind to go down this exact road. For him the best that can come out of this now, and not what he first set out to do which was liquidation, is for Rangers to acquire a new buyer/owner before it goes into liquidation and then carry on in administration until the big tax case is finished as CaleyD suggested.

Quite when and how he managed to aquire the backing of Ticketus is yet to come out but if he did so before he took control of Rangers then he surely must be liable for that debt as he secured it on his own back outwith Rangers as a viable business at the time to back him. For me there is no way that the Rangers board at the time, remember it included John Greig and Martin Bain, would have agreed to and voted on this ridiculous deal as there is nothing to suggest that it would have helped out the club in the long run. It's like the bank giving me a mortgage based on the fact I have been told that I was due a 50% pay rise but might not actually occur, the same way I cannot see them agreeing to a loan based on future season ticket sales which can't be 100% guaranteed either not to mention the fact they could surely not do without that money to run the club over the three years in question and would be facing an even bigger shortfall in finances as a result.

There are so many ifs and buts still to be answered and they will never come from CW, the best hope Rangers fans have is that the administrators get to the bottom of it and if indeed they were in on it at the start I think they too have now found themselves in a position where they don't want to be and the only viable solution for them is to now find a new buyer/backer and let the club continue.

Do they want to be seen as the company that liquidated Glasgow Rangers Football Club?

Cowdenbeath @ 2.25 please

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It's a pity he can't use that 6th sense of his to anticipate what players are going to do so he can actually be where he should be and prevent us conceding since he is supposed to be a defender.

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Elgin @ 2.37 please

Yeah it was probably the best night of the Premier League last night, I love the darts and watch it anytime it's on.

Phil Taylors 3-dart average last night was a Premier League record and the 2nd highest 3-dart average ever recorded in any match, he currently holds the world record sitting at just over 118.00!!! That's a 10 or 11 dart leg in every leg, just phenomenal and great to watch if you like that stuff.

Really like watching Gary Anderson and good to see him enjoying it again after a few bad months.

Well that was sh#te, end of!!

It's one of those games where you just rip it up and move on, we can take nothing positive from that performance at all and the only thing TB should learn from it is that his constant changing of team selections isn't working and we need some leadership and experience at the back.

We've now conceded more goals this season so far than the whole of last season, not good enough by a long way

Yet another TB roasting required at half time to get them going, totally unacceptable and it shouldn't take that too get them motivated and focussed.

Be interesting to see if he makes any changes

I hate slagging us off but we are rotten down the right hand side!!! Desperately need some experience in the defence to sort them out and Rossco's on the bench, we want the midfield to get it down and play but the defence anytime they get the ball panic and hoof it forward, why??!!

Thats undefendable defending, we should never be sucked towards the ball like that and leave men unmarked

Good reaction to the goal but need to stick to our markers and not be pulled about

Reall confident today, happy with our team selection. Cmon Caley!!!

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It just keeps getting worse for them!!

We all knew they would never meet the 31st March deadline and that's not really the part that should be worrying Rangers fans the most, the fact that the tax rangle with the HMRC seemingly keeps escalating it's more a case of when will it stop than how will it stop. It just makes the management of the club even more baffling.

Stenhousemuir @ 2.50 please

I think the use of the EBT's was quite nievely exploited without them fully exploring the avenues that it could lead to or open up and the potential problems that it may bring, certainly at the time Rangers weren't the only club to make use of them and it has been widely reported that there are at least 8 or 9 EPL clubs that are being investigated for the same thing and some have already come to settlements however none of the teams involved have been named.

Technically Rangers exploited what they say as loopholes in the law as did these other clubs and it is not until now or the last few years that the HMRC have started to clamp down on them. The extent to which they have pushed those bounderies or went passed those bounderies has still to be revealed but really this is only part of the whole mess.

Everyone is getting caught up in the 'big case' but lets be clear this didn't tip the club into administration, it was the complete ineptitude and mis-management by CW that has done this in the non payment of the £9m, are we to believe CW in his comments today that it is actually only roughly £4.5m and they offered to pay £2.5m up front with monthly instalments of £0.5m and that the HMRC point blank refused this? I wouldn't believe anything that comes out of his mouth as the HMRC, as I have said before, stated many times they don't want the club to go out of business and would work with them.

Has it all been part of his ploy, is it really mis-management or a cunning plan from a man who understands the laws of administration and sequestration and the ins and outs of how it all works and how he can make his money from it?

Today CW announces that after the club comes out of administration he'll step down and walk away leaving his shares to the fans and that he will make nothing from it, hmmmm I think not!! It's getting closer and closer to what I suggested beforehand that he will make a tidy little penny from this whole situation.

I don't agree that they should be stripped of honours, it's not the players and fans fault that the running of the club was carried out the way it was, they went out and done their job and were successful, yes you'll say that without the financial gain they wouldn't have had those players and therefore may not have been as good and as successful but that's all ifs and buts. If you strip them of the titles who do you award them to? Do you award them to anyone at all? All in all it becomes a total farce.

Portsmouth won the FA Cup then went into administration not that long afterwards, clearly due to not being able to pay their bills, putting aside whether it was PAYE, Tax, VAT or day to day bills should they be stripped of that title? I am sure if I went and researched it I would find other cases like this but this is the other more high profile case I can think of.

Just putting it out there but is it feasible to argue that teams that who are in debt or have overdrafts are living outwith their means and are therefore cheating, they are making use of money that is otherwise not theirs in order to either supplement the on field team or keep the club going, where do you stop with all this?

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The mathematics unless my sums are wrong are that

Dunfermline need 3 wins + a turn around of a 19 goal difference in there remaining 11 games(their next game v celtic)

whilst Caley gain no more points from 12 games !(our next easy 3 pointer v gers)

Safe enough dya think ?

I would rather wait until it was mathematically impossible for us to go down to talk about it than sumise over ifs n butts and ins n outs.

To answer your question though I really don't see us going down, not compared to Dunfermline anyway, a team that haven't won at home all season cannot stay up contrary to what Jim MacIntyre says

Disappointed we couldn't take three points today but at least it wasn't a defeat and keeps the big gap between ourselves and Dunfermline

Another goal conceaded just before the end of a half!!! Seriously how many times, when are we going to learn

That is a bad bit of the raod and from memory therea re ice warning signs all over that area, glad your ok and didn't have any injuries but it really is a stretch they should be gritting all the time especially as there have been snow warnings for days leading up to the weekend

............ anyway football time lol, great chance for us to get three points today, come on the ICT.

Rangers are 1-0 down to Killie, be interesting to see how they react to it especially after the week they've had

PS: apologies for any spelling mistakes in the above thread, I forgot to spell check it haha