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Chieftain hotel are putting stuff on for the gypos

I think this may be why the OP posted this thread .... Didn't the same establishment also put hospitality on for Rangers last year and get into trouble for serving alcohol outside their licensed hours? Have the licensing board 'sentenced' them for that yet?

The board messed this up with the complaint effectively time barred. The Police have the opportunity to make a new complaint if they so desire, though I've not seen anything as to whether they can be bothered given the fact that the Highland Council messed up the first time.

Clinical finish from Connor.

God our marking in the last third is woeful. Players seem to be able to drft into space at ease.

I see that Celtic have failed to reach their hospitality targets for last season.

I am baffled by the assertion by anyone that this was a definite red card.

You can understand why perhaps it was deemed to more serious that a yellow card, however he probably took more of the ball and less of the player than Rosscoe took on his better tackles (ok, maybe I may have made the last bit up)

Seems all too familiar.

Lack of cutting edge/composure in finishing and individual errors in defending.

I have to say, for a lad who allegedly cannot play out wide, he managed to pretty much skin the Arbroath left back at will in the first half on Wednesday! If his shots were more accurate or Bullock did not pull off a good save he could have had a hat-trick as well.

May have been a different level to SPL, however perhaps explains what CaleyD was referring to with regard to his performance training.

The player who was 'hooked' last night for having the audacity to turn his back on Butcher when being slaughtered for misplacing a pass!

Maybe a contract extension will have to wait for a few days??

Will there be any pics or highlights from this game??

Should be available on the Arbroath website at some point

An intersting statistic for people.

Allegedly Ross County now have more Inverness based Season Ticket Holders than Dingwall based!

Can people not go two hours without a smoke? Deary me!

I quit a good while ago but I could have done with one yesterday at half time myself!

One laced with cyanide perhaps?

Standing = noise?? Someone tell the Celtic fans. They seemed to manage ok in the same seats as the home fans.

This old chestnut is getting a bit tiresome. Apparently it was caused by fans not being together. So the club moves people out of their seats to create a 'singing section' and the result is...................no change

Adrian Durham said on the radio the other evening that being a fan means you follow your team through thick and thin because of the emotional connection.

After today's embarrasing home crowd, does this mean that we simply lack 'real' fans?

Home fans out in numbers today......not!

Cant get the time off work for it, gutted as i love visiting all the old style grounds around the country.

I seem to have arranged meetings in Aberdeen and Brechin for that day

I see that Tuffey has managed to find his level since he left us

Whilst Pepper is a live wire with bags of energy, I am not sure that I would look to start him against Celtic. There will be a lot of responsibility on formational side of things and I'm not sure that he has the experience just yet to go a full 70 minutes without having some form of lapse.

It will be interesting to see why Celtic have available. They played 3-5-2 intially against County on what is a very tight park (it has actually been made smaller this year at Adams request). Mulgrew was very much the play maker (at left centre half!) though I also thought their defense as a whole was poor (County sat too deep for much of the half to exploit this).

Suspect Commons will never play as badly again (though he got 7 in the sundays and of course scored the equaliser).

And also misses Webster's kick out at Billy!

Need some help. Was it a penalty because Ryan did not allow Hearts to score?

Absolute clown of a ref!

I really do feel (note I am using the "I" word again) that the events of last season have really had a marked negative effect on the support in general. The "fun" has gone out of supporting ICT for many. The "togetherness", the "family feel" and the "enjoyment" has gone but realistically so have the winning days of the SFL, the cup runs, being the favourites. The realisation that we are a SPL survivors in every sense of the word appears to have escaped the psyche of many. Even the ground "rules" of the SPL are clearly having a negative effect and the "joy" of huddling together in make shift stands and hedges whils standing, singing, moving around without the fear of being singled out by stewards are a thing of the past - sad but fact.

The solutions are far from easy or achievable. WE would all have to applaud the efforts of many to try and make life off the pitch better and I can understand their frustrations when peeple complain about their "treatment" as it feels "personal" to them and makes them feel that their efforts are worthless. But that is consumer satisfaction feedback and it should be a case of taking every gripe on its merit and learning lessons.

Valid points, however the feeling of "togetherness" comes also from the actions of fans and not just from the actions of the club. Irrespective of being on the positive or negative side of view regarding the current team, the amount of unconstructive critisism of players and other fans plays to the sense of there being a divide.

Neither does some of the attempted justification and reasons for stopping supporting the team reflect the arguement that the club can do any more. The club listened to the fans and unlike Aberdeen fans many of our own have turned their back on the club (and do we really think that any greater level of entertainment is being offered by the Dons?)

Whilst I do not always agree with some of the tactical views posted by you and others (nor would I expect you to agree with mine - albeit I am alway right ), I fully endorse the right of any supporter to offer a constructive opinion on tacticss, selection, etc and indeed value this in terms of a forum such as this.

Whilst the effects of playing lower league football will not quite have hit Black yet, it stands to reason that as each week goes it becomes harder to step up to international football. It begs the question then as to why you would pick a player now who may be unlikely to be picked later in the campaign (note Houston saying in the press conference that they were light on midfield players for the game - surely it would make sense to have a look at a player such as Rankin?

Of course, the arguement all falls down when you look at Scotland squads and see a number of players who are not exactly consistent choices for their south of the border teams

the main thing that ticked me off in the main stand was the booing owain off the pitch, i even heard one guy shout, ''theres f*cking kids watching'' i know not everyone in the main stander is like that but i just thought shut the feck up you self righteous tw*t. it just felt horendously middle class to me, not my scene at all, probably shouldve moved over to the south wing with the section e lads that sat there for the second half.

its safe to say i wont be spending much time in the main stand for the rest of the season.

I understand what you are trying to say, however where is the qualdron of support from the North stand (extending the concept that the main stand is simply for the 'middle class').

For years we have heard about the need for a singing section and the seating policy is the cause behind the lack of atmosphere. If it is indeed the case that the true fans sit in the north stand where is the atmoshphere now that seating has been changed by the club to suit the wishes of the fans?

I agree that some of the things heard in the main stand are ridiculous, however much of what comes from the north stand on many occasions is not much better.

Perhaps the problem is that we are all pointing the finger at others for not being supportive, instead of everyone actually being supportive towards the team?

With crowds of 3000, what exactly do people expect in terms of players?

Aberdeen, yet to score a goal this season, had 14,000 at a game against a "diddy team".

I'm afraid I am a bit fed of of people coming on and trying to justify the reason for not supporting "their" team. The only ones who have a justifiable reason are the ones who genuinely cannot afford a ticket or cannot attend games (though I would point out that I know three Celtic Season ticket holders who are lucky to manage to get to two or three games a season due to where they live and work).

Out of all the examples of potential additional costs which my business may incur, I have to say that this is not siting near the top. Of course, the additional costs which independence may bring may actually be offset by lower taxation (though neither side has yet provided any robust figures to provide certainty regarding the fiscal position for an independent country).

As we are talking about the Royal Mail, all that I would say is that under the current public system things are not exactly rosy. As a company, we now do not rely upon the Royal Mail for important deliveries (other than Special Mail) as we are finding that too many letters and packages are going missing.

In any event for most businesses, the volume of mail in reducing and this is the root cause behind all the issues with reducing incomes and out dated methods of sorting, etc putting pressure on the ability to balance the books. In reality, irrespective of independence, the Royal Main will have to change to reflect the changing pattern of work. I somehow don't see independence impacting on this fact in any real way.

This thread is verging on the ridiculous.

Are you suggesting that we should park this thread?

could we not bring on a midfield player to try and stiffle st mirren instead of a young boy getting his first taste of spl in the heat of the battle.

just a thought but as i was not at game should probably not comment. sorry

Polworth already has SPL experience (albeit about 2 minutes)