dougiedanger

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The day the Caley died

20 years next year.

And by the way, thanks to CB for explaining what the "JFK moment" means.

By f*ck, would never have known otherwise. 

What aboot when Take That split up?

Ah mind the first Top of the Pops after that, very emotional.

Hi

Moved to Inverness a few years ago from down south but was surprised at a lack of decent fish & chips places in the area. Even the likes of Harry Ramsdens in Inshes are no where near the quality of their branches in England and places like 1st pizza direct are just disgusting. There IS one ok-ish chippy - Hilton Chippy - but its a bit of a drive from where i live in Westhill so i only go there occasionally. Anyway whilst walking along Greig St last night, a new chip shop has opened there (called Vegas chippy or something) so i popped in there and got a large haddock & chips  . It just reminded me of the legendary fish suppers i had in Lancashire as a kid...it was that good. Hope this helps other long suffering fish and chips addicts :)

 

PS

i do NOT work for this chip shop or in any way connected, just sharing my experience.

Ah yes, the chips of Lancashire, coveted the world over by foodies of all nations.

 

Out of interest...how much was the fish supper? Was it a decent price?

I can't remember exactly but i think it was around 6-7 quid for a large haddock, chips and mushy peas.  Currently they're open 4-10pm 7 days a week but they're planning to open at midday and also will offer home deliveries in the near future :)

 

can ye make it a bit more obvious please?

 

Personally, I would call it a chipper not a chippy, as in the Chipper Mob.

Hmmm....i do believe.....in my teenage yrs...i referred to the Chip Shop as a Chipper, but nowadays.....its mostly chippy. Maybe i mix it up as i go?

 

Bet ye call a chip piece a chip butty too. 

Personally, I would call it a chipper not a chippy, as in the Chipper Mob.

Nice one Scotty!

Yeah say this on Sunday and thought a draw was likely, but by no means a cert

 

8 / 13 at the moment with William Hill - slightly over £16 back

 

Don't trust South American football though, could well see a winner

They're so untrustworthy ye can't even trust them to cheat.

A lot of people died for that flag in many many wars it deserves respect

No arbitrary piece of cloth is worth a single life.

The Union Jack is synonymous with more than one expressions of national pride, you cant point to an old lady cheering on a royal precession with a flag and claim her motives are the same as a 20 stone skinhead marching down Luton high street with EDL on his knuckles.

Within the context of Scottish Football, what the flag symbolises has been well established, it is used to provoke hate and is a symbol for far right bigotry.

I know that ignorance is bliss in the far north and I'm willing to accept naivety from the younger lot on here but to plead the case of flying a Union Jack within a Scottish Football ground as merely 'colour-matching' as Kirishima says, is laughable. As is the showing support for all of the British players in the side, how do we know that any of them are patriotic in the slightest? I've lived in England for years now and there's 50/50 split in people who hate this country and those who don't, much like there is in Scotland.

What I worry about are the people who are aware of the flags connotations (ie. almost everyone) who can't find the strength within themselves to be honest and say that - "Yes, I do know what this flag represents within the context of Scottish Football and yes I want to fly it at a football game regardless of who gets upset"... instead of sniveling excuses and smirking, grow a spine and stand by your convictions.

You cant refute that the Union Jack carries a different meaning depending on where it is flown or who it is carried by. If the bearer was simply showing support for their country and nobody within that country has the right to be offended by it, then why wouldn't they carry the flag with them everywhere they go, rather than just to football matches?

Surely they're always in this country and thus should always want to show their support for it? Flag to Tescos, flag to the pub, flag to work, walking the dog, dropping the kids off at school, flags hanging out of the car and house windows etc etc

If that sounds ridiculous to you, then you agree with me in saying the Union Jack makes a more significant and well defined statement within a Scottish Football ground.

Whether people should turn football matches into political rallies is another matter, I'm not even against the Union Jacks, I'd just like to see people on here be honest about why they want a particular flag on show rather than hiding behind the teams strip colour.

Good points Clacher, plenty on here hiding behind the team colour idea, when the flag does not match the club colours.

I agree if people want to act like small time sevco fans, they should at least be honest about it. The OP's main point was about sectarian singing. Again, if any of those who sing these songs want to justify that, be open about it.

I am not saying that this should not be debated but this is NOT about ICT (IMHO), it is about the interpretation of bigotry and sectarianism in Scottish Football. I don't give a feck where it sits and I certainly would not even consider moderating - feck me. AND this is not a thread about a British soldier unfurling a Union Jack - it is the beliefs of the individuals, mainly of those who view anybody setting up a Union Jack at an ICT game as being derisory and inflammatory. If the soldier then started singing "The Sash" or had added EDL or FTP etc. on the flag then I would have probably burned the flag maself - that was NOT the feckin case.

 

I am the first to admit that I wore the IRA scarves and I sang the bile in the Jungle - mainly becos I wanted to be one of the Bhoys and never really understood the history and the shame being brought to Scottish football. Flags never really bothered me - other than the religious and secretarian offers. Caley were initially named "The Rangers of the North" because of our grip on Highland football, our large following, our arrogance and our colours. We were a mix of mainly Cellic and Rangers supporters. The Union Jack was our colours and was Caley to me - not Rangers.

 

If the soldier wants to unfurl the flag again I will proudly stand beside him:

 

 

Hang on - cancel that last bit - the feckin thing is red and black

Caley's colours were blue and white FFS.

Scotty, whilst in no way challenging the final decision of the moderators as to what goes where, I would suggest that individual posters should be entitled to express in open forum the point of view that a thread has been started in the wrong place. This is especially the case if, by the raising of the issue, those who might not have realised one are invited to consider the possibility of an ulterior motive within the thread in question.

As far as I am aware the OP has not posted extensively if at all on the Independence thread, so to attribute to him an "ulterior motive" smacks of paranoia.

JDM's main point was not to do with the flag, but as he says, the wannabe zombies that rally round it, singing mindless sectarian songs.

As said before, tolerating this kind of thing is a sure fire way of alienating many potential supporters.

This thing about using the "fleg" because it has the club's colours surely can't be right, for as some of the nice people who wave the thing used to say "there ain't no black in the union jack."

One surefire way to alienate the club further in the community. 

We'll be having "heroes" abseiling doon the main stand next.

To be fair to Cowan, women's football is pretty sh*te.

What about Dave Cameron sh##ting it from a debate with Salmond?

Nice of him to leave it up to Scots to debate the issues, I trust he and his rotten government will refrain from commenting on this issue in the year to come.

One sad thing is that in an independent Scotland, there is no way CB would be taking to the airwaves, given his strong and principled stance against the "separatists".

 

When did clach have these stands?

Was that not the original Wine Shed beyond the main stand?

I have vague recollections of my first footballing experience in Inverness, being in among the Clachers in the Wine Shed, and being scared at all the shouting, and the heady smell of booze.

 

I am sure in an independent country a form of the BBC will still exist.

You actually raise another serious questionmark against separation there - which I am sure you will try also to categorise in your so called "Project Fear".

But with less than 9% of the BBC's current licence fee revenue, I would be interested to see what kind of service a Scottish equivalent would be able to provide - even if it were to try to raise a few more quid by imposing lots of adverts on viewers of and listeners to... what?

The BBC is actually an excellent example of one of the fundamental benefits of the Union - economies of scale.

 

Self-interest, perchance?

 

While we await Oddquine's latest mauling of CB, I will note his diversionary tactic of twisting the vote into a referendum on Alex Salmond rather than a vote on whether the Scottish people want to take full responsibility for governing their own country.

 

People are often quite like those they profess to hate, so we find in CB's posts much of the self-important bluster and pontificating that he claims to dislike in the First Minister. 

 

I fear you oversimplify. FWIW I see Salmond as assertive, if occasionally a bit smug. Not in the least inclined to bluster- affable even when faced with the winduppery of the likes of Paxman.

Unfortunately CB seems to have a dose of the passive/aggressives and the hatred of Salmond the man is there in every sneering reference. Play the ball not the man is what I say ;-)

 

Fair points, it's a neat diversion to turn this vote into a referendum on Salmond or the SNP, as that seems to give an excuse for not facing the real question: do you believe your country should be independent?

If it helps the doubters: I am sure in an independent country a form of the BBC will still exist, as will the cafeterias at Tesco, Morrison's, etc., and all BB badges will still be valid.

While we await Oddquine's latest mauling of CB, I will note his diversionary tactic of twisting the vote into a referendum on Alex Salmond rather than a vote on whether the Scottish people want to take full responsibility for governing their own country.

People are often quite like those they profess to hate, so we find in CB's posts much of the self-important bluster and pontificating that he claims to dislike in the First Minister. 

Anyway, I will let Oddquine deliver her far more incisive critique of his latest guff.

Shouldn't be long before Oddquine is here to rip CB a new one.

Again.

It's probably a positive thing for the Yes campaign that all the smug, ill-informed, fearful, and downright irritating types seem to be lining up with the No side.