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To be fair that's nothing that Brewster's brought to the side - the back four have been waving their arms about instead of playing to the whistle for more years than CB's been in charge.

It might not be his fault, but what's he doing to address the issue?

True, but perspective is important, and CC did little about it either. Brew is not the Antichrist - he's just not the man for the job, in the minds of most.

Have just had a good look at the highlights.

Where the f*ck has this new habbit the defenders have aquired come from?

The habbit in question being the one where every defender stops in their tracks with their hands up appealing for off-side...

The incident I'm referring to in the game is where a header is delivered from their midfield straight over the top of our defence to meet Miller arriving with a well timed run with yards of space. Why does he have yards of space? Because every one of our defenders have stopped to wave at the linesman...

This is happening way too much and eventually it will cost us dearly...

Of course Brewster should already f*cking know this but can't f*cking solve it because he's too busy making the players run about in training! :018: :thumb04:

To be fair that's nothing that Brewster's brought to the side - the back four have been waving their arms about instead of playing to the whistle for more years than CB's been in charge.

Every home game we do the same thing. Play some decent football, then fail to penetrate at all up front. Wood showed good skill today - but what can he do on his own? Brewster is criminally guilty of continuing with the same system which doesn't work, has no hope of winning games, doesn't entertain the fans etc. He ought to be sacked for the good of the club - the fans demand it. The board have a duty and a responsibility to see what's going on. As for the usual heavy handed and ignorant behaviour of the stewart who denied paying fans their peaceful say with a banner - shame on you and on the club that allows this to go on. Fans are getting angry and restless.

Eh? Join the CTO forum and in your first post 15 minutes later call for the manager's head? Why should we listen to you? Get a few posts under your belt before you start asking for people to lose their jobs.

I have sat in Caley Stadium stands since the first day in the Third Division. I have posted on this board before, but stopped a couple of years ago. I have as much right to be heard as you. Stick to the issue - not that kind of inane nonsense, suggesting you have more right to be heard than other paying, loyal fans. What arrogance! Truth is, however many posts YOU have posted makes no difference. It's time the rest of us who have loyally shouted support from the stands , paid our hard earned cash, and not been the loud-mouths, were heard. This manager is not managing. Anyone who knows anything about football can see that.

Quite right

I understand that staying away is not a good thing for the club but also understand folks feelings.

I stay in Glasgow so get to more away games than home but am back home for xmas and would normally get to TCS with my dad but not sure if we will bother. I am also financially better of this xmas than last and was planning buying a fair bit of ICT merchandise for myself when back but am so angry with things at the club at the moment am unsure if I will even do that. I feel if the board cant even aknowledge the fans feelings and concerns then why should I bother. It's catch 22 tho as this sort of action doesn't do the club any favours at all.

The club will notice a drop in revenues anyway, as all businesses are seeing; the danger is that they may write this off as 'credit crunch' rather than 'entertainment crunch'. The other danger is that there's another agenda which doesn't deal with football, but that's for a different thread.

If your weekend spend is going somewhere else when it would have been going to ICT, please write to the club or email them and tell them why you're giving your cash to Vue or wherever else you or the kids would rather go.

Hi,

i notice that attendances are dropping week on week as we get worse by the week, which is IMO totally understandable.

I've also just read a thread in which several season ticket holders state that they will not be back while brew is still at the club working his magic (!!!).

I'm just wondering how many others are taking this line of action?

I don't want to start yet another 'get brew out' thread as every other thread is one but just wondering how many folk are choosing to stay away while the situation remains the same. And also will you return if the club finally shows some balls and do the right, decent and proper thing?

Mrs. 4ize and I have missed a couple of games this season for no better reason than the weather was bad and we didn't want to see the feared home defeats which duly materialised. We didn't miss a single 'home' game when we played at Pittodrie. The money is already set aside for next year's season tickets, but they won't be renewed if Brew is still in charge: legend as a player, but currently undoing his reputation by trying to run before he can walk, and ICTFC is providing the stage.

Jesus Johndo, why do you do those long winded posts when I'm too tired to read them?

I think that was a cut-and-paste job Alex. Allow me to summarise: boardroom politics and factions can paralyse an organisation - let's say a football club - dragging it down a slope to the cliff of perdition. Confucius say 'P!ss off and leave club alone'.

Thank goodness that could never happen here.

PLEASE READ CAREFULLY AND CONSIDER

Many times we see lot of people leaving their jobs because they found the work place politics affecting their life. Internal politics involving the people at work place are some times bad and avoidable. These politics not only affect the normal working of job, but also may some time cause people to quit their jobs. This results in lose of human resource of a company. To get the good people for working in the organization is a difficult task. However by ignoring the internal politics at work place can cost the companies dearly.

People usually want to be remaining in group; they do not like others to enter their group. This tendency sometimes made lot of subgroups in the office. For every group the agenda of their group is more important than what is required. They try to promote the people in their group more over the others. They sometimes also try to let down the people of other group. This creates inter group rivalries. One group try to hinder the work of other group, in this they even forget the goals of organization. Group rivalries are most common and can be seen in big offices where lot of people work. These group politics are one of reason for collapse of work due to the non corporation and are of great cause of low performance.

Second politics is seen in individual basis. Many people try to be smart and play with the emotions of other. They are not associated to any other, still they are in all group. They pretend to be the friends of many, but actually they are with nobody. There main purpose is to achieve own results. They create misunderstanding between the people. They remove their enemy by creating a bad image for them in others eye. They never fight their enemies directly, but provoke others to take revenge for them. They try to make their enemy alone by creating misunderstanding with his friends. They make the person alone and then become friend of it. Now they know the secret about him and upon feasible time use them against him. In this way they are able to remove their enemy without fighting him directly. These kinds of politics are most dangerous and to know that some one is doing it against us is a difficult task. This kind of politics is main reason behind the many, who leave their jobs?

So we should be alert of politics on the work place and try to avoid indulging in them. Indulging in them may unnecessary cause use lot of difficulties and simultaneously should aware about the others politics about us.

Wild guess, but is that from a late-80s Japanese management text translated from the Korean by a native Mandarin speaker?

Quite unbelievable...what has happened to MY club?

I was at a game in Cyprus this year where every seat had a flare for every fan to set off at the start of the game. The atmosphere was electric and fiery, very fiery and very hot n smokey! (The kids that were playing with several dozen nicked from seats were a worry I will admit but...we all got out alive.) Still, it inspired the home team to a good win.

Now, my first venture to TCS for 5 years or so and the loyal support want to send a message to the club. For the first time in my life I see an "Evidence Gathering Team" filming genuine ICT supporters with legitimate flags/banners. What f*cking control freak thought that was good PR?

Meantime upstairs at Police Control we are being scrutinised by Plod...yes guys I saw you with your binoculars.

I've been reading some weird accounts on here in the last year but I see what has been said is complete truth...we are a club in freefall.

The board is bankrupt, the stewarding is bankrupt, the security is bankrupt, the team are plain sh!te, the club shop...oh dear me, and our manager is an embarrassment...

...I used to be proud to say I'm a shareholder...

Ha!

You've not been for five years...

Thank **** for that. So we're not just looking through sh!te-tinted glasses? You do start to doubt yerself after a bit. Like Winston, I remember a time when things weren't like this, but don't let yourself get caught remembering...

I have long held the opinion that only the 'Fat Cats' in hospitality are of any real priority to the club management of ICT. For long enough the punters who couldn't afford a seat in the Main Stand had to stand out in the wind and the rain while the Fat Cats lounged in the sheltered zone at the top of the Main Stand (or watched through glass). Also, for long enough the club complained about the lack of atmosphere from the fans (kinda difficult to generate sound when suffering from hypothermia). When we did get a modicum of comfort for the lower echelons (North Stand - by compulsion from the SPL) we then started to get some noise, fun and atmosphere - much to the discontent of the club it seems - only to get picked on by the yellow-clad Thought Police. The slightest indication of someone getting to their feet and they are threatened with being chucked out. Home fans are the easy targets for the Yellows. Meanwhile, away fans can stand for the entire match - and even invade the pitch - and nothing is ever done by those in yellow. Today, one of our club's loyal stalwarts displayed a placard offering his best advice for the club he loves and is threatened by the men in yellow.

ICT has a shocking history of treating its most loyal fans like dirt. Little surprise then that we see the North Stand starting to empty. This club needs to change its attitude to the ordinary, diehard, faithful supporter. I am tired of seeing photos in the programme of the Fat Cats in 'hospitality'. I would rather see photos in the programme of those loyal souls who travel huge distances (at great expense and often at great inconvenience and sacrifice) to follow ICT, those who are there in all weathers, those who are there faithfully to watch their club get beaten regularly - rather than see photos of groups of fairweather supporters out on a freebie, particularly for the big matches.

Yes, I know the club needs Hospitality customers to bring cash in but I would rather see a packed, vibrant, noisy North Stand and an empty Hospitality Lounge than vice versa.

I suggest that the Chairman should offer an apology to Caley D for his treatment by the stewards today and for intimidating genuine ICT fans with security cameras. That would be a start.

It would be, but this probably goes a wee bit further than football on a Saturday afternoon

todays game was sh*te

but the north stand were a good singing support for all of the first half and in the second half we gave alot of abuse to brewster

i say we protest to get rid of brewster

brewster GTF, brewster brewster GTF

There's only one person who could get rid of Brewster at a stroke and he's been significantly silent this year.

They would appear to have been filming any fans who were noted signing "Brewster get to f**k" after the third goal. The camera was located on those in Section G and also those at the front of Section D/E. I guess it is simply to have an idea of who the "trouble makers" are (in the clubs eyes).

There was a camera on the stanchion holding up the roof of the main stand at the Bridge End, pointing at the North Stand - I'm not the most observant of people but I can't remember seeing it before as I eat my half-time Kitkat (one bar for a draw, two for a goal deficit, three for impending disaster, and I ate all four today).

This is so far away from that glorious May day when the league trophy arrived as to be unrecognisable.

Words fail me - all of this has been evident fer months.

Very few people are recognised for talking sense in their lifetimes, let alone talking a lot of sense. If I were you I'd drop the immortal tag, otherwise this could be a very long eternity. And the Brew goes marching on...

I can only imagine the team looking like they've been given temazepam has alot to do with Brewsters half time team talk.

Exactly. His post-match interviews send me to sleep mid-rant. Maybe that's the master plan, to anaesthetise everyone to the point where nobody cares that he's a complete fanny. I can almost hear the "Mwuahahahaha".

So point proven then 4size1

Aye, close enough, gsivemeaccccc1

Ict are for life!!!

As long as you were born in 1994 and die aged sixteen, because at this rate the rest of us will be supporting Inverness City, shopping at the most picturesque Asda in Britain and telling the grandkids about the time John Rankin scored a great free kick from aisle six.

dont exagerate........................................

we,ll never have a asda in inverness

Ok, ok, sorry... :thumb04:

Ict are for life!!!

As long as you were born in 1994 and die aged sixteen, because at this rate the rest of us will be supporting Inverness City, shopping at the most picturesque Asda in Britain and telling the grandkids about the time John Rankin scored a great free kick from aisle six.

Mr Brewster, what on earth do you do in training?

When was the last time we scored from a corner? 2 years, 3 years, 4 years or more! Why don't we try a short corner for a change? Why don't we try and drive a low hard cross into the box from the corner flag?

Tried several times this season, to no effect. The execution of the set pieces is the problem, not the plan.

Why don't you teach your players to boot the ball to hell out of the park when defending under pressure in or near the box? (example - Imrie today)

Done often - and often lamented by the crowd - by the defenders (examples - Jamie Duff last home game, Ross today). Imrie isn't a defender.

today)

Why do the players switch off just after half time and loose goals so often? Get them back out on the park after 10 minutes of the interval for a kick around so that we are not caught cold.

Agreed - the side went off the park today looking like they might get something. They came out looking like they'd had temazepam administered.

Why have we got the best discipline record in the SPL? It's because we are still nearly not street wise enough, every week we are conned by clever players who win free kicks in dangerous positions (example - Mackie today who won free kick that led to goal)

Was the ref conned? I'd like to see a replay but it looked fair enough. After two players talked themselves into the book today, our 'best disciplinary record' (if it exists - I'm taking your word for it) probably won't last lon.

Why does Ian Black always shoot from 30 yards and get nowhere near the target? (example - today)

Because he gets frustrated with the lack of shots on goal, which in turn is down to a lack of support from midfield for the lone striker Brew inexplicably plays at home.

Why does Grant Munro never learn to pass a ball through, rather than lump it up the park even when he has acres of space and time?

Grant made some of the better passes out of defence today - Hastings if anything was guilty of lumping it. And when Munro did hit it long, it usually found Wood or one of the midfielders making a forward run.

Why can't our players control a ball first time like real professionals?

Like the fantastic first touches from Black, Wood etc. who often today made silk purses out of sow's ears?

Why do we play one up front at home and two up front away?

Ah, that's because Brew's completely out of his depth.

I agree with the sentiment, just disagree with some of the points.

Were there any organised protests/chants at today's game? Or any chants at all for Brew to go?

Loud and sustained "Brewster Brewster GTF" from the North End. Stewards right in there

Four of us in the main stand are going along next time with four sheets of A4 paper, which will read "4", "4", "2" and "!" respectively.

If nothing else, we might get a cheap laugh.

You just got one

If you are a Caley Thistle supporter I hope you will appreciate that the team

needs your support this season.

For as long as we stay in the SPL we will have the occasional season which is a relegation

struggle - this is inevitable but will at least provide a bit of excitement.

This may well be one of them and so every point could be vital.

Staging "protests" will not help at all.

Be positive.

Get behind the Team and enjoy the battle.

As for Brewster, I agree 100% with HC.

He is not everyone's favourite.

He is a young manager learning his trade.

I believe he has done some good things and made some good signings.

I also believe it is far too early to judge the man - and that the hysterical panic shown

on here is ridiculous.

He, like the team, would benefit from a bit of support.

I also agree that the list of potential replacements would be extremely limited and none too

promising.

I for one will be showing my protest aginst the lynch mob today by being 100% behind the team.

Three points this afternoon would make a huge difference to the teams standing and confidence.

So .......... why not get a grip and join me.

He probably is learning his trade, but he seems to have learning difficulties just now. Why can't he learn his trade at Elgin? Did you learn to drive on an F1 circuit? If you had, do you think another team would give you a drive after you'd completely trashed another team's car and proved you'd not a clue what you were about?

If I do join you I probably will end up getting a grip - and shaking you vigorously until the Brewster Imps crawl groggily out of your erse, which I understand is the only treatment for delusions of this scale.

one positive thing about the day.

we ain't bottom!

And another good thing is that East End Park is the nearest ground to me. So that'll be nice again next year.

And you'll be able to watch one of the nice people who used to work his socks off for us and occasionally scored goals until Brewster fekked him off and replaced him with a twelve-year-old who can't jump but who dances really well on YouTube. Unfortunately he'll be playing against us.

I'll spare you the rant, it's all been said. No idea why the two Stasi Stewards spent ten minutes standing in front of those guys in the Bridge End, but from the way everyone around burst out into another round of "Brewster GTF" and waved at them as they finally retreated, I suspect voicing dissent against the manager has now been added to the list of Things Thou Shalt Not Do in Stalag Fortress Tulloch.

I think I've missed the interview but no doubt more of the same sh!te from Brewster there too. Too arrogant to walk, and the board don't look to be hunting out the P45 forms. SFL here we come.

Tara Jock - another who now knows if it really was the Hand of God :thumb04:

or maybe something festive...?

it's the season for a sacking

ta-la-la-la-laaa-la-la-la-la

Brewsters tactics are a lacking

ta-la-la-la-laaa-la-la-la-la

shall we sack him, shall we sack him

ta-la-laaa ta-la-laaa la-la-la

craigy brewster G T F

ta-la-la-la-laaa-la-la-la-la

we wish brew a merry christmas

we wish brew a merry chrsitmas

we wish brew a merry christmas and a P45

we all want someone better

we all want someone better

we all want someone better to keep us alive

He wont go until he gets one

He wont go until he gets one

He wont go until he gets one, his P45

hang on - they're not positve are they...? Oh well, festive et etc

Best laugh I've had in a while

Centre half, centre forward, and possibly a couple of midfielders who'll be needed to replace those either unwilling to sign a new contract or who haven't been offered one. I haven't been to the reserves for ages - can anyone report on McNulty? Fraser's welcome to go if he thinks he can do better but there's cover needed.

but will that empty seat be noticed among the thousand of others ?

You know fine that it won't, but I hear similar rumblings from all around these days and five hundred empty seats which were supposedly full this season - and which are no longer paid for (you also know fine that the official attendances are a joke on occasion, given the number of empty season seats) - may be a bit of a wake-up call.

If you're planning, say, an annual sportsman's dinner, you don't spend fifty grand on the catering, twenty on the venue, ten on the guest speaker and then stick a dried turd on every table as the centrepiece and serve Baldrick's Finest for the wine; if you do, you must expect a few empty seats next time round; repeat year after year and, woo the punters as you might, soon you have no dinner at all, not even a dog's dinner; get rid of the crap and you might just see people coming back.

I'd hate to lose my seat, which was always a pretty good one when we used to score goals, because we seemed to score more towards the Bridge End but, just as it was five years since, some direct action seems in order. Shouting 'Brewster Brewster get to Largs' may be ineffective (you can't swear at matches any more, not even 'bloody', and Largs is probably worse anyway) and will still probably get you ejected from the stadium by our friendly stewards. All I can honestly think of is voting with my feet and telling the club exactly why I'm doing so; I heard tell of a member of staff at the stadium canvassing late-renewers in the pre-season, who got the full, uncensored opinion of the person on the other end as to the state of the entertainment on offer and their view of why it has gone downhill. I've just weathered a season longer than they did.