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I think we laked defence.

They just sorta stood of the ball and watched it.

Rossco and Golabek were big misses!

I understand that there was a massive effort before the game to try and get Rossco fit enough to play.

Anyone being to it?

Are you Borat?

Are you a muppet ?

What is this fixation you have with muppets. Did Miss Piggy turn your advances down leaving you bitter and twisted towards our puppets pals

I hope I am wrong but I am not so sure his managerial abilities are much better.

Whether they (his abilities) are good enough only time will tell.

My point is that we do not have a Manager who has lost the dressing room, nor do we have an Assistant who is ridiculed by most of the players as being, to quote one, a "joke".

What are you seeing in him that makes you think that, I am not saying he is not the man for the job, just failing to see it myself, in fact apart from his PR skills I am failing to see what makes him any better than Brewster

To be critical is fine, however we are not playing like we where under Brewster.

Yes we got beat, however out with the last 15mins of the first half we were by far the better team.

We are suffering badly from injuries at the moment, particularly in defense.

the boys were awful today. esson gets pass marks, great save from the pen but the rest were well below par. butcher needs to realise some of his signings are not up to it. eagle is a nightmare, like playing with a man down, when proc came on he at least threatened to do something. mcbain and duncan must be wondering what they must do to get a game. if i were butcher i would play the following team going on the basis that everyone is fit

esson

tokely duff munro zadi

imrie cox duncan mcbain

foran sanchez

subs: allison, proctor, hayes, barrowman, odhiambo

ive based this on that fact that duff did well last year. zadi at least tries to play he ball out instead of golly who just hoofs it clear, despite adding some dig to the team. midfield goes back to last years players as opposed the new guys as they have the dig to get stuck in and try grind out results. the midfield today seemed to go missing in periods. upfront foran needs to realise that the world doesnt revolve around him, complaining when balls are slightly off him, losing possession of the ball. he is a vital assest to the team and if he knuckles down and battles hard the goals will come for him and the team.

what the rest of you thinking?

This will be the same Duff who is unlikely to play again this season due to his injury?

John Stewart (former Falkirk striker) and Jonathan Johansson (Hibs) are the strikers released today from what i read on Sfl website and Joe Keenan and David Van Zanten from Hibs have been released so what about any of these?

I would like to see Stewart here as he did a good job at Falkirk but not sure about Johansson.

This is the same Stewart that has just been released by County for not being good enough?

This sounds very much like a late move by Hamilton for Hastings with Butcher having limited opportunity to find a replacement.

I suspect that Hamilton offered a fee for Hastings which for a player not getting a game (and not necessarily adding something to the team if he was!) is always worth considering.

In Golly we have a player who has played SPL and knows what the 1st Division is about. For those saying Golly is fatter than before, he was considerably slimmer last season than he was in his final year before moving.

In terms of pace, technical ability, tackling, aerial ability and presence LDZ is the better player by far than Hastings. Unfortunately when he has to make a decision or engage his brain it all seems to fall apart!

Shinnie offers a lot in the LB role, however he stills needs to be hardened up and even against Stranraer (where he was a possible MoTM) he was caught out a few times by bigger stronger and more street wise players.

Would we have liked to see a younger player coming in? Clearly yes. Is this the disaster some are making out? I suspect not.

In all the histeria regarding LDZ on Saturday, he was not responsible for the debacle (or indeed missing an easy header to clear in advance of the third goal).

Frankly this games questions Butchers tactical abilities.

As mentioned in earlier posts, we did not even turn up.

So, do we try and sort out some of the problems. N0! We wait till we are two nil down.

Stratfords performance was an absolute shocker. The fact that he stayed on the park for longer than 15minutes is impossible to comprehend. I assume that as one of Butcher's signings he is immune to being removed when having a shocker (although to be honest I cannot recall a game where he has looked anything other than ordinary).

We were crying out for the central midfielders to get closer to their men. Even Duncan's harshest critics cannot deny that he showed how this was done when he came on.

Removing Procter when Zadi is being at best 'Random' (sorry this is a term which my 10 year old daughter has introduced me to)???

County deserved all three points for at least turning up. Butcher needs to sort out the tactics, and a lot of players need to look in the mirror.

I do not know what McBain and Duncan make of being left on the fringes in favour of some of the new guys.

At least Bulvitus and Hayes look as though they have something about them.

What gets me is the fact that if you want a pie at half time you have to miss about 10-15mins of the first half and if you go at half time its 10-15min of the second, this is why I dont get one at the game, I cant see anyway really to combat his other than have 10 counters open and staffed for that 30 min rush.. Im sure the exspence will not cover itself... Hotdogs and other Item for sale wont get me to change my mind on going to grab somthing.

Some grounds around the country have TV screens visible from the queue which show live action from the match.

Obviously there is a cost (and logistics) associated with this, however the point relates to the fact that this solves the inevitable problem of people missing parts of the game through standing in long queues. Even having Sky TV showing Soccer Saturday would help.

Does anyone know if this will be tried again ? Or was it a one off ?

Are you referring to someone with Caley D's figure (no personal offence meant ) having the balls to wear a shirt like that......... :P

Cringeworthy, gaudy and tasteless. I'll let you decide if that is Caley D's patter or shirt :003:

On a more serious note, well done to Caley D. Even if some of the dialogue verged on downright awful, it is pleasing to see some interaction with crowd and an attempt to stimulate an atmosphere.

There still needs to be some fine tuning of the content and possibly an increase in the amount of music played, however I know from going to a number of Premier League venues in England, there is a huge amount of effort put in to provide pre-match and half-time involvement with the crowd.

Better than listening to Grassa And Mikey Noble screeching out "Bring it on Home" and watching to see if any penalties at will actually get scored in the Flybe challange with Jim Calder accidentaly going the wrong way!

There is a statement on the Official Site which also covers this.

I have to say, the standard of both the food and the service has never been adequate from our current provider. I know that a lot of us are fed up with barely edible food and Cups of Coffee where the tide is well and truley out.

We were discussing at the Clach game how embarassing it is to have a Highland League team providing top quality (indeed Award Winning!) food at better prices than ICT.

I think that a phone call from Mr Smith to "Dougal's" agent with the offer of a lucrative transfer across the City is needed.

Proctor and Imrie will be good enough for Division 1. Centre mid is the problem area.

A right back and a player who doesn't turn up for half the games???

We spent most of last season with poor service for the strikers from an inability to have wide players who can cross a ball.

In Rooney and Barrowman we have players who can finish, but not create. Again Foran can get on the end of crosses.

The team is crying out for wide players to provide service and improve our ability to score.

We seem to be in the situation where our options for right midfield consist of Proctor or Imrie, neither of whom are the answer.

Is there any thoughts or knowledge on how we are proposing to fill this position.

I suspect that TB was less than happy with Cowie being sold a couple of days before the transfer window following Barry being released. We never really found an answer to this and in the SFL there seems to be little need to have a defensive wide midfielder in the way in which it was necessary against the better teams in the SPL.

This is possibly the weakest area of the team at the moment, although it could be argued we are also short of a forwarding looking central midfielder.

I agree that there is a need for a manager. It just seems to me that Commercial manager and Chief Exec should maybe be one job.

Good to know about the last part of your post Don.

The type of person who is good at being a Commercial Manager in a football club is generally different to that of a Chief Exec (or General Manager).

The Commercial Manager needs to have a bit of flair (in a commercial sense) and have excellent communication skills as they are 'customer facing'.

The Chief Execs role is to implent policy from the Board and in the terms of the football club minimise outgoings to deliver the Business Plan. In a traditional business the Cheif Exec is effectively there to maximise profit for the Shareholder - in a football club it is a slightly different situation for obvious reasons.

Ultimately CaleyD is correct in that it is a return versus outlay arguement.

Commercial Manager - Takes in more than he costs

Chief Exec - 'Saves' more than he costs

Some people can combine the two, however this is not the case in the majority of situations.

I think you will find it was the players that "turned on him" and decided to stop playing for him :clapping03:

The majority of fans (I am excluding ones who never wanted him back in the first place) simply saw what was happening and reacted rationally as a result.

In which case the players should have been severly diciplined.

You mean the fans jumped on the bandwagon without making their own minds up?

I don't recall much in the way of capitulation leading to us all clammering for his sacking.

My recollection is of a lomg running debate over several months where strong views on both sides were aired. Towards the end of November it however became apparent that he had lost the dressing room and lost his way.

It is extremely easy to say that Brewster would have kept us up - you will never be proven wrong. I think however I like most will sleep easily with the knowledge that he would probably have managed to get us relegated by the middle of March.

I completely agree Pugsy! It was the fans who turned on him and wouldn't let him get on with the job.

I think you will find it was the players that "turned on him" and decided to stop playing for him :clapping03:

The majority of fans (I am excluding ones who never wanted him back in the first place) simply saw what was happening and reacted rationally as a result.

I would reckon a fair price at the gate would be ?15/?8 North, ?19/?12 main. So using that criteria I'd expect season tickets to be about ?210/?100 North and ?270/?150 main. I would also expect U-16's to average around ?60 and ?30 for family enclosure.

I know that this may place me in the minority, however I would be happy paying a bit more (?20 or ?30) for the season ticket if this allows us to have a few more better players. Every little helps (I'll probably be sued by a well known supermarket chain now!)

He has done f*** all so far to earn his 2 grand a week.

Barrowman is not on ?2k per week.

The deal was a stepped wage structure, which I understand averages out at ?1.4k over 3 seasons (he was on a fair bit less this season), and was on similar to other senior players (Grantie, etc).

I do not know what provisions are as a result of the drop - if there are none I suspect he may be moved on!

He needs to be given a fair crack at the whip before we decide whether he is good or bad. We buy a penalty box player and hardly ever get the ball in there at the moment!

?2.50 for an oyster ice-cream!

Hope that *rotter* wont be back in a hurry!

But was it any good?

Our major shareholder has already selected where he wishes the new stadium to be built!

It's true, I was the man on the mic on Saturday. First time doing the job at TCS so hopefully you can forgive me any minor issues that may have occurred with volumes (or anything else). Trying to get a handle on all the information that needs to be relayed to fans whilst finding my way around the various controls and buttons for the first time was this weekends challenge, but hopefully as I get more up to speed on that then we can look to improving the overall quality.

One thing I will say in defence, support and recognition of previous (current and future) incumbents is that there's far more to fulfilling the job than we (including myself) might have realised. They have to work with other people to collate all the info they require for the afternoon - Sponsor Details, Mascot Details, Team Lineups, HT Challenge Participants, Attendances, HT & FT scores from other games, Birthday/Celebration Shout Outs, Safety Announcements, Goal Scorers, Substitutions, Music Selection, Future Events, Future Matches....plus any miscellaneous stuff than can, and does, present itself.

Keep the feedback coming (good, bad and indifferent). I can tell you that the club have been listening to what has been said on this thread and are keen to tie in the roll of the stadium announcer with improving the rest of the matchday experience.

One final note....a Thank You to Ali who was the previous "voice" of TCS. Other commitments have prevented Ali's continuation in the roll, and having now stepped into the shoes I think I now have a better appreciation for the job being done. Thanks also for the clear and helpful instructions you left, without which we might all still be standing there scratching our heads and wondering how you managed to pull it all together.

The most significant suggestion I would make is to try and get closer to the fans.

At most (English) Premier League and a few of the SPL grounds the announcer is actually out on the pitch (or in front of the main stand) and gets involved with the half time entertainment, etc. I appreciate that this requires somebody to be doing the 'controls and buttons' however the impact from walking around in front of the fans with a clipboard is actually quite significant.

i was wondering who fans think or want to be in starting 11 for next weeks game.

My team would be:

Esson

Tokely Mihadjuks Munro Djebi-Zadi

Imrie Kerr Black Proctor

Rooney and Foran.

After Kerr and Rooney's performances today I suspect that they may not feature

Lets see.

1. One of our most consistent players.

2. We look out of balance and weaker when he is not playing.

3. Probably one of the first players to be on the team sheet.

Yep, we should punt him

Right. Which of our players will we slag off next!

Oh - And dont forget - Who put us in this predicament - and the answer is not wholly Craig Brewster !!

What, its not wholly CB? Why haven't you mentioned this before!!! :thumb04: