starchief

Sheez, Gary Kenneth. Forgot about him. So did everyone else unfortunately. Wonder if he's any good these days?

Not a Lois Lane moment? From what I remember, Superman's girlfriend was always knocking herself out. Must have had severe brain-damage in the end.

Why should we care what Butcher's job is, gingerjaggy? He left us, now he's trying to weaken our team. Sod him. He chose to leave a team going somewhere. Give it ten years and we can be nostalgic. Not now.

I wonder if we need to shift to a back 5 with Warren out? Maybe Doran/Ross on the right and AN Other (there's a few lefties) as wing-backs?

I thought Ross did okay today too. Dreadful penalty but he tidies up well and provides some good touches. Never a dominant player but we'd be much less creative without him.

Thought we just tired in midfield. No surprise really, with Polworth barely playing before and Williams being fairly average. A Foran or Draper would have made a difference. Can't complain too much. Exciting match that needed a bit more in midfield towards the last third.

Presume Polworth has been shattered for the last 25 mins as he's posted missing. No surprise though. Not much to replace him with in that position,

We could really do with...well...Tansey!

Awful penalty. Truly awful. By the way, how come a Muslim can bless himself entering the field but not a Catholic? It's either allowed or isn't (and I don't have much of a preference but there's got to be parity, not religious discrimination).

I never really got fishing either. "here's my opinion" "I disagree" "ha ha, it wasn't really my opinion but you responded in a forum designed for conversations with different opinions"

I agree Huisdean. And if Hughes does, he should be praised. Meanwhile, with results going against him, he has to be subject to criticism, rather than assuming he can do nothing about it. Of course he can. That's exactly his job. Hughes doesn't deserve to be pilloried but nor do the results deserve overlooking. There's plenty of time to be either hero or villain come the end of the year. But we shouldn't be blind to bad results.

I agree with virtually everything iamthecaptain says...except the idea that a slump was inevitable and the manager shouldn't be blamed. Of course he should. It's his job to select the tactics and personnel, along with team talks etc to make sure that doesn't happen. Otherwise, why employ a manager. Maybe Hughes will turn it around - we're still in a good position with a decent squad - but the buck stops with the manager. He has to get us winning again to prove his worth, otherwise what's his salary for?

Certainly not from Motherwell fans - and who else is there ? He did a great job at FP, kept us in business and took us to a League Cup Final for the 1st time in 50yrs. There were a few Brentford fans on.

We did get the same thing from fans of ex-Butcher clubs and that turned out pretty well ...but I fear they may be right this time. I live in hope but full of doubt.

Butcher did of course do well over the long-term. I also remember him giving a real boost to a virtually relegated team to a team that almost made it. If a slump was inevitable, why did we bring in a manager? Aren't they supposed to have ways around a slump, especially to a team that, barring docked points, would have been bottom on a quite terrible run? What's the point of bringing someone in if there's nothing he can do about it? Save the money and carry on managerless until the slump (that was fated to come) is over. Presumably that's simple destiny too and nothing to do with tactics and team selection? That said, I am prepared to give Yogi til the end of the season (or at least the split) as there's no point calling for his head soon after being employed. I'd be delighted if he turned it around but I'm not hopeful.

Why not? Would you also say the upturn in Hibs' fortune is nothing to do with Butcher? Both just some weird coincidence. I doubt it personally.

Best stick him in defensive midfield then.

Go on Luke...

I was wondering if perhaps he's been earmarked to join Butcher. I know he can't simply upsticks but who knows what happens behind the scenes. NB: I have absolutely no info on whether that's the situation or not. Sheer speculation.

Your mistaken, Dean Brill played in the Championship, research better next time and Warren and Draper playing for Manchester United was correct?

Look back and I don't think there were many overjoyed by his appointment. But once he's in, you just gotta hope for the best, rather than be overly-critical of what might happen. I still hope but have never expected success.

Probably mine too, except I'd have Pepper in lying slightly deeper for Christie. More of a 4-5-1 as we're away to a decent team.

I'd say I'm giving him a chance rather than behind him. Expecting poor things from Yogi but would be delighted if he proved me wrong.

Most of our best players we got from the English Premiership of course, including Vincent (Chelsea), Warren and Draper (both Manchester United) and who could forgot Dean Brill's dramatic Champions League match in goal for Arsenal when he kept a clean sheet versus Barcelona. Some other sad teams are probably going even further down than League Two into non-league football. Hope we never get to that stage.