old caley girl

4 hours ago, Gringo said:

I hear you but if the CEO et al decide to, effectively, cut off the food supply chain then the blame falls on them and not the fans.

Exactly! 

10 hours ago, RednBlackComeback said:

Can't be bothered with politicians tbh. They're all only in it for themselves!

Emma Roddick is a ST holder so entitled to her opinion 

20 minutes ago, Yngwie said:

The order in which things will eventually disappear if the club is starved of revenue:

1. Players

2. The club itself

3. Scot Gardiner

I also hear you but I'm done with the whole s**t show. I'm not contributing one penny to the madness they've created 

1 minute ago, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

Haha - just got that one. But this Drake must be a Francis and the first CTO member to circumcise the globe. Pretty good fisherman though and even more anonymous than Dougal.

Actually convinced this is Ross? He has actual facts so not a Dougal 

17 minutes ago, Drake said:

"tell us all that the club are right in everything they do"  

I've only commented on this specific topic as you clearly point out as well.  So your statement makes no sense.  I just want what's best for the club, and that is the club going back up the leagues again.  This is a clearly a positive step to help with recruitment.

 

If fans however, en mass want to challenge it and demand that the club just carries on what they are doing for the sake of some sort of Highland togetherness feeling and if the fans are content that this approach will most likely lead to staying in the lower leagues then so be it.  It appears that the majority on here would rather we stayed in the seaside leagues and try and patch together the youth.  We have had few good youth players but nowhere near enough to build a winning team right now.  We have such an unambitious support.  At home games it's weird.  Surreal.  Fans are vocal.  They are very VERY vocal at voicing criticism of the referee for example if he makes a mistake.  Or if they are unhappy with a substitution etc.  So there is clearly some sort of passion there.  But we score a goal and its a small cheer, maybe 15 seconds of clapping and everyone sits down again.  The club make a positive approach to sign players and there's utter meltdown.  I've seen comments on Twitter with fans saying they'd rather be in the Highland League etc etc.  Crazy.  Is there any other club in the entire country with such an unambitious support?!

Words fail me. We have one of the most loyal supports. A lot of us don't live in Inverness but do home and away games at considerable expense. Maybe start supporting the OF of you want a large noisy support? We are passionate about our club and are going to fight for the soul of if 

3 hours ago, Drake said:

Wow!  Talk about an over reaction from some of our fans! 

 

We can finally attract any Central Scotland based player that we can afford.  There have been season after season so many players within our budget that will have said no due to location.  Why would a player move himself and his family up here on a semi decent wage but they have to find accommodation etc for family.  We are losing out to teams in Central Scotland with lower budgets than us!  This is a MASSIVE game changer.  

 

I agree it's a shame we have had to do this.  But we no longer have the finances and the appeal of the Premier League to entice players North.  County can still do this due to the fact they are in the Prem (at the time of typing) and have a reasonable amount of financial backing.  We have been propped up financially for years by various folk but the money is dry and the lack of the Premier league means we are losing out.  The lack of fans coming through the gate as well has not helped.

 

Hopefully in a few years the club can relocate to Inverness, but if we have this small team mentality being shown on here and don't go for this, then who will sign for us?  January transfer was a disaster.  If we are to rely only on youth players coming up then we won't get out of this league never mind back to the Prem.  We'd probably be in a relegation scrap down to League 2.

 

So, the way I see it is, that yes this is an unfortunate but necessary move. There's 2 options:

 

Option 1:  The fans get their way.  The club stays.  By remaining Full time and on semi decent wages and based fully in Inverness we get hardly any quality signings and we are on a race to the bottom of no return.  We are patched up by random loan signings, youth and short contracts and all togetherness is lost anyway.  Then part time and bust.

 

Option 2:  The move goes ahead.  We remain full time, give semi decent wages and based in central Scotland.  A fair amount of quality players sign.  Players that would never have considered us before.  Even players from our fellow League 1 rivals will look at it as a bigger move without even moving!  We mount a title challenge and hopefully go up.  Players stay around for longer due to location and we actually get togetherness back!  Eventually promotion back to the Prem and a full relocation to Inverness where quality players will once again be lured North for the chance of playing in the Premier League. 

 

I fully support this as a way to secure the long term future of the club.  As for the youth teams, they can still train and be developed in inverness! I believe that if we had made this move sooner, we would not be in league 1.  We have missed out on so many signings over the years that it's possible that we'd be back in the Premier League by now if we had done this in 2017.  Time will tell if this works, but I say give it a chance and get behind Dunc and the team!

Hiya ScoT or are you Dunc? 

27 minutes ago, KirkieRobRoy said:

Made a good start on BBC Scotland Drivetime tonight.

Who was on? 

20 minutes ago, Charles Bannerman said:

That’s 729,000 shares (just below 15% of the total), donated by Tulloch to the Charitable Trust so no longer in Tullochs’ ownership. The Supporters’ Trust also has a different category of holding, pegged to giving it 10% if any voting rights. These are the biggest holdings by single parties. I don't have the overall list to hand but the breakdown depends on what kind of alliances might be expected. For instance the Sutherland family aggregate quite a few but nothing close to a majority. There’s also a significant Savage/Orion block and a McGilvray block plus one or two others. However the biggest group aggregate seems to lie with Muirfield Mills consortium with around 18% (approx 900,000 shares) but no-one is close to having a controlling interest.

I believe the ST also hold some other shares over the 10% and several proxies 

48 minutes ago, ictchris said:

In the Battery Farm thread someone, I think it might have been Charles B, posted a grab of the biggest shareholders in the club.  The biggest shareholder, by far, is the Tulloch/Sutherland owned ICT Trust.

Is that the Trust David Stewart chair off? 

1 hour ago, robbylad said:

I'm no financial whizz but, would anyone benefit,  money wise from the club going bust? Are any club assets there to be stripped?

Well there are secured debts (check out companies house) so there must be? 

3 hours ago, jagster said:

This could be the final nail in the coffin. 20 years season ticket can’t see myself and my son renewing now. This stinks of a Gardiner move. 
We started in division 3 all the way up to premier league and for the last 30 years have managed. This isn’t about anything other than the fact the useless shower who have been in charge have dragged us down to this. If we managed before we should be able to manage now. I feel totally deflated coming home from work and reading all this

Of course it's him. Revenge? 

4 hours ago, ictchris said:

You have to ask about the board members who are signing this off.  What are they thinking?

Also, the club is owned in the main by David Sutherland.  Does he support this? 

Don't think that's the case anymore? 

5 hours ago, lizi said:

I’ve always renewed my season ticket but whilst the CEO is still here my money stays in my wallet.   I’ve spent loads over the years on ICT but the CEO obviously dodged the training in interpersonal skills as, when I’ve been anywhere nearby him, he looks at me as if I’m dirt under his shoes.   I’ve worked and been a team member in high places with people who valued me.  My ICT cash has gone towards his likely inflated wage so, until he goes, ICT will miss out.   I don’t think I’m alone in my thoughts.  

We deserve to be treated so much better Liz. I'm also with you. No money going anywhere near that man Away days only it is 

1 hour ago, Fraz said:

A call to unity after radio silence is pretty hilarious, particularly after years of fans, supporters trust, S94, volunteers and local businesses being brushed aside. The club has shown for years that it doesn't value supporters' concerns or their contributions (unless it's money). 

They are past redemption. Clueless and don't give a stuff about fans 

25 minutes ago, Robert said:

From the note of the February Fans Meeting, Scott Young said there were 1459 season tickets and a further 50 half season tickets. 

I'd bet my mortgage they are all not paid STs 

3 hours ago, DoofersDad said:

Have we been paying Dodds too?

 

Yes 

8 minutes ago, ClickbaitProponent said:

They would get more people contributing if they weren't so high and mighty. I'll not give the club a single penny more until Gardiner is gone. I didn't buy a season ticket for that very reason. Others have done the same. There are plenty who have been contributing but have seen one cluster f&%k after another and all going back to Gardiner. Every single supporter who has bought season tickets, match tickets, shirts etc has contributed and quite rightly should have their say! Without support the club doesn't exist - worth remembering that the fans make the club not the other way around.

This is so spot on! Seeing lots saying the same too 

2 hours ago, ictchris said:

It's also not as though relegation came as a huge surprise.  Not having something prepared is pathetic.

It makes me think that we are going to go into administration to be honest.

I do too. Its ominous 

Just now, robbylad said:

They are so tone deaf, I'm surprised that  the season ticket  renewal  hasn't been sent out yet.

Give it time.....

12 minutes ago, ictchris said:

When does the smoke come out the chimney?

I'm told it's in the evening 

2 hours ago, jagster said:

Close the North Stand and you will lose even more season ticket holders. I for one would not renew to end up in the front or side wings where the weather etc gets to you. I can’t imagine I’d be the only one 

Same here although I'm not renewing till Gardiner gone anyway 

5 minutes ago, caley1 said:

He is certainly not a leader . He employed his mate Gardiner as a way of trying to make a quick buck between themselves . The only times you get Ross Morrison opening his mouth is when he is looking for fans to get behind him Gardiner  and Cameron to try go against Highland Council and approve his battery project so that between them they all can make money and use caley to try gain that support . Good riddance to them all majority of Inverness are well fed up of them all. Not one of them have any interest bar SELF  interest . 

Think it was Robbo who recommended Gardiner? Was his mate 

29 minutes ago, dougal said:

It’s ok to have a guilty conscience I guess for some anyway.

Dougal

No guilty conscience here 

35 minutes ago, Yngwie said:

It seems to be generally accepted that fans can come on to pitches at the end of a season to celebrate an achievement, without repercussions. We’ve done it home and away (Ayr) and at least one team had previously celebrated on our pitch (Dundee Utd). I don’t recall any trouble at those, and I don’t begrudge giving Hamilton fans the opportunity to celebrate their promotion.
You can blame the club or stewards, but surely it also comes down to individuals taking responsibility for their own conduct.

I think I kicked off when one Hamilton fan ran up to our North goal gloating? Didn't go well after that 

To be clear I'm all for pitch invasions but this was a bit different to the past as tensions in home end were clear to everyone 

27 minutes ago, Stephen Malkmus said:

Hopefully those clutching their pearls about a few youngsters running on the pitch come to realise that not everyone desires to share their own miserable, passionless philosophies 

No issue with pitch invasions. Scraps on the pitch between rival fans I'm not so sure about tbh