Johnboy

I'll have one ear on this one tonight...

A 0-0 draw probably the best result for ICT.

It's tattooed on the back of his neck - a legacy from his stay in a concentration camp during the war.

Assuming we beat Celtic on Sunday and then go on to win to lift the Scottish Cup there can only be one candidate.

Here's a website for you IHE, if you order today it should arrive by Sunday and it would be ideal for covering up all your offending tatoos

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dougal

Tread carefully here, Dougal...

What's underneath IHE's tattoos is even more offensive than the tattoos themselves.

Don't you worry JB, plenty chances for bottles of malt to come in the not too distant i'm sure :drinking04:

edited to add....in fact i'll go as far as bet a bottle of Balvennie double wood we play league games in the next 3 seasons (not including this one)

bets void if ya pass us on the way doon.

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You mean you are actually assuming Dundee will survive as a bona fide football club for at least 3 more years?

Tokely was superb today, and is now much more comfortable in central defence - himself and Hogg are forming a decent CD partnership. Even if Gillet is fit I think TB should stick with Munro at LB. I also hope that MacDonald gets a start sometime soon, but not in this game.

.....Esson.....

Duff, Hogg, Tokely, Munro

Hayes, Cox, Duncan, Doran,

.......Foran......

.......Rooney......

Tuffey, Ross, McBain, MacDonald, Morrison, Sutherland

Oh right, aye.... Could be a good move for the boy then, eh?

It was a superb win for ICT today - not that anyone doubted for a moment that we would pull it off (oops)

Do you think ICT will ever play Dundee again in the league in our lifetime, H/Dee?

This was a very comfortable and confident performance, despite the absence of Hayes and Doran - if anything the scoreline actually flattered Motherwell.

Given that they (Motherwell) made Celtic look decidedly average last week, the timing for next week's cup-tie could not be better.

Bring on the Celtic!!

Hope they are going to be able to pay him.

I was in the pub last weekend discussing the concerns over recent performances and whether Terry had any fault in it. I can remember Harry Truman said "It's what you learn after you know it all that counts." and then Carl Bach pondered and added "According to my principles, every master has his true and certain value. Praise and criticism cannot change any of that. Only the work itself praises and criticizes the master, and therefore I leave to everyone his own value."

I suspect he was in his usual existential spliff mode but Leslie Fiedler rather poignantly added that "All good criticism should be judged the way art is. You shouldn't read it the way you read history or science".

Then Paula Abdul, evidently being on the pisshh all day, slurred out "Constructive criticism is about finding something good and positive to soften the blow to the real critique of what really went on."

On the road back to the Govan Hilton with some prawn crackers wee Lao Tzu put his arms around my shoulders and said "Theses clackers are rubbery but you tell yer friend Telly from mee that a good leader inspires people to have confidence in the leader, a great leader inspires people to have confidence in themselves.

I think I then went on Face Book and contacted TelBoy.

I haven't lol'd on this forum for a while - that is feckin' priceless!

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Ginger Jaggy has been checking out this fixture for us.

The odds appear to be stacked against us, but that's when we are most dangerous................well, let's hope so.

Excellent preview and pre-amble.

Well done guys!

I read that his back in training and a couple of weeks away from a comeback.

Which is whats been said for the last month or so...so i can understand why the OP is scratching his head wondering why he isn't playing.

We were told not so long ago he had recovered from his injury and was only lacking match fitness - so far he hasn't even made it on to the bench. Is there is more to this story than meets the eye?

Johnboy, you make comment re the "claim" about domestic abuse rising considerably following an old filth game. What reasons do you have to doubt such a claim. It has long been accepted that this is indeed the case in and around Glasgow. I also ask you to spare a thought for all the police and ambulance staff who have to deal with fall out and to all those families who have to deal with the aftermath of the violence this game brings. Do you also dispute the "claim" of a senior strathclyde police officer who stated that there was not an empty cell in or around Glasgow following the last old filth game.

I wouldn't accept that at all.

I am prepared to accept there could very well be a link between drinking to excess and domestic violence, but I certainly wouldn't accept that Glaswegians are any more inclined to beat up their wives or partners than football fans from any other part of the country, or even the world

You're surely not seriously suggesting that this is a problem peculiar to Glasgow?

I know a bloke who's dog died a couple of weeks ago...

He's now affectionately known as Dugless by all his mates.

McCoist and Lennon hardly made it into the "handbags" category with their outburst of petulance.

I can't believe the over-reaction by the Scottish Media to what was a pretty typical, and fairly boring OF encounter. They're all whinging on about Scotland's shame, Glasgow's horror, etc, etc... There was even a debate in the Scottish Parliament this morning with one MSP claiming that domestic violence rises by about 50% throughout Scotland after an event like this. Calls for all future OF encounters to be played behind closed doors.

What a load of crap! It's only a couple of weeks since the AC Milan - Spurs game, with the Gattuso/Jordan spat which was 100 times worse than anything that happened last night. Was anyone calling for all their games to be played behind closed doors?

The only thing I would have taken exception to was the Rangers's players reaction to the ref over the red cards - he would have been well within his rights to issue more red cards for some of that stuff.

Radio said it was Ross who never followed the runner, possibly because he was not switched on so soon after coming on.

What do they know?

Just been watching the highlights.....Hogg was careless in giving away possession. Esson could have shouldered some blame for being caught well off his line. I haven't heard any our own supporters who were actually at the game blame Ross for that goal. It was a good opportunist strike though....

Being the eternal optimist that I am I see no reason to to worry at the moment.

My predictions of the points share around us are:

St Johnstone 9

Aberdeen 9

DU 10

Hibs 10

ICT 8

We will finish on 41 pts with DU but with a better GD advantage so just pip them to the sixth spot.

We've got Dundee Utd (twice) Motherwell, Celtic, Kilmarnock & Hearts.

Where do you see these 8 points coming from?

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Anyone be bothered to look up our record and split it into games where Hayes has played, and the ones he's missed?

My calculator tells me that we've earned 1.45 points per game when Jonny has featured (top 6 form), and just 0.57 ppg when he hasn't (guaranteed relegation). So extrapolating being without him for a full season, we'd end up with a Gretna-esque 22 points.

I was hoping an accountant would respond to that question!

A very interesting analysis and it goes a long way to answering all those who suggested that ICT were something of a 1 man team.

Cue moaning about pitch conditions

And not forgetting the biased, bigoted officials...

Stick with yer principles JB,any one getting it up either OF is alright by me

Motherwell looking very comfortable now....Can't see Sellic getting anything from this.

Guess we might have to settle for 6th spot in the table, rather than 5th.

Motherwell doing really here... 1-0 up at HT.

Normally I'm delighted to see either half of the OF getting a doing, but I don't want to see Mothersmell open up a 4 point gap between us....

Help!

Pretty much one of the worst games of football I've paid money to watch. We were rotten and Hibs were not far behind us. Fine day out though.Dare we hope for anything from Tuesday?

If we have a fit and raring to go Jonny Hayes back in the side, and possibly Kenny Gillet restored to L.B I'd be confident of a win.

Also agree with Stan (above) that Nick Ross performs best in a central-mid role, and should replace Cox.

13,841 at yesterday's game - not bad they managed to add another 2,500 - 3,000 onto their normal attendance against us - it appears their promotion worked - just think of all those extra pies and bovril that were sold....

Seriously though it looks like they got the response they were after....both on and off the pitch....

Something we should try here?

Ken Dodd's probably my least favourite stand-up comic.

Of all those who did An Audience with series, Billy Connolly would probably have been my favourite.

The Audience with Dame Edna (Barry Humphries)show was also priceless.

were the better team and deserved to win. Caley has quite a bit of work to do, Are they as fit as they could be?

Couldn't you have added that bit to your previous post?