DornochCaley

I think its easier to name players that are not bombscares than ones that are now-a-days at the TCS!

Well Golly ws club captain but it was Dodds that was the onfield captain.

I think we should try shinnie at RB with Tokley at CB. Im not fond of Proctor

IF we can pick up a cheap one why not?

For me, Cox has slowly deteriorated from his good start to the season. In the space of 2 months, he has become a shadow of his former self. I mean, I failed to notice he was on the field yesterday until I saw him chasing a ball at the north end of the pitch in the second half. I think he was one of our better players yesterday.

Wow, i never noticed Cox wasnt there. --------------Esson Proctor Tokely Munro Golabek Imre------Cox------Hayes -----------Ross ------Foran------Odi

I like that, though i think i would do this... Esson Proctor Tokely Munro Golabek Ross------McBain------Hayes Imre Foran------Odi But i would consider changing Imre and Ross around.

Swearing is a public order offence. This is news to me I think it would be more accurate to say that if someone takes offence to another person using profanities then it becomes a breach of the peace, I was certainly convicted of breach for swearing on one occasion. Im not sure this is true, but this is what i was led to belive.....What is now known as swearing was just the common language of the working class man. It was frowned upon as "Common" by the upper classes and so it was seen as bad to use that type of language. And so, over many, many years, swearing has been seen as something bad even though it didnt used to be. As is said, im not sure that is true but i have been told thats the origin of why swearing is seen as bad. If so, could this not really be seen as discrimination against the working class people as it is discriminating against the way they speak?

Swearing is a public order offence. This is news to me

Well let me say how I see it, you felt very angry at the fact that your "banter" was being stamped on by the club, this banter included racism and swearing both of which are against the law in this country and you and your group have started a whole heap of bad feeling amongst fans on this forum because fellow fans have complained (justifiably within their legal rights) now I have no problem with what you chant and I have no problem with profanity (I am just as guilty on both counts) the problem I have is that ICT are performing extremely poorly and this is leading to in fighting within our fans. The reason I have gone to such lengths is that I don't think we need this just now and I apologise for singling you out but this was the only opportunity I had to get my point across without being flamed by a heap of posters on this forum. I know what you mean.....Swearing is illigal?

Dont get me wrong, he isnt the core reason for it. But his release was defo a big factor. He hs been great for county this season and i was told he was dropped for the rotation system County have.

Typical old firmesque excuses, I have included a couple of links here to show that your blinkered views are misguided to say the least- Gypsy on wikipedia whilst I know English and Scottish law differ according to English law travelling showmen (like you refer to) are not protected the same way as Nomadic people such as Irish or Scottish travellers or Romany people. [Wikipedia is unreliable but the important facts do have citations] Irish traveller. Ahh i see. You mentioned my "old firmesque excuses". Im am going to build on this just now by leaving the topic slightly.....If you look at what has been happening with all this "no swearing" and stuff, is it any wonder boys like me would rather support one of the old firm than ICT? Ok, most support them because they are just little glory hunters. I am not, as i have stated a while back. But look at it from a boy my age point of view...would you rather go to ICT, a whole 20 at a push singing, people beside you moaning because you sing, people moaning because you dont sing, stewards telling you to sit down. The list goes on. OR, would you rather go to CP/Ibrox where you can sing with alot more people, sing without the worry that would will be moaned at with whatever you do. You can stand depending what section you are in at CP/Ibrox, though i know the stewards are W*nkers there too.

One of the boys in the year above me in school, Tom Smith, plays for the under 17s just now. Hes almost 17 and will be too old to play soon. He is very VERY good and i think in a few years, if ICT stick by him, he could make it. Theres another boy whos 18 and just left my school. Hes never been scouted for a big team as they dont come as far as dornoch. He has just started playing for Invergordon 19's and he scored 2, set up 3 on his debut. He is amazingly good. He also plays for Dornoch and makes all the adults that play look like 8 year olds who canna kick a ball. Its players like this that ICT miss out on because they dont bother furthering their horizons. The only reason Tom plays is because a freind of his recomended him to the ICT youth set up a few years back. ICT are creating their own downfall.

W*nkers

Vigurs is a huge miss and we really needed him this season. But i think with Imre back we will be better. In him, we have a guy who loves to run at defenders and is probably our most creative player.

Fair enough. But Theres a diffrence between the two. The "Famine song" Mocks the death of over 1 million people. Gypo is a word which for centuries didnt bother ANYONE. That was just the same they were given, yet now, people seem to think it must be a bad thing. I do actually know real Gypsies and they have no problem with it and they say all the other Gypsies they know dont have a problem as they have always been called it, and when they are, its very rare its for derogetory use. The gypsies i refer to are the Granny and Grand of my sisters freind......They own some of the rides that go to the galas and stuff.

What did Vigurs do?

DornochCaley, you have clearly stated here that you believe the famine song to be racist but in the following posts you seem to be staunchly defending your right to use derogatory terms, even having them censored by the site management in one post, towards travellers. Inbred *******? lice troden ****bags? Tuchter ********? Caravan roaming ******? The following quote is taken from this link Given that there is a school of thought that Irish Travellers (sometimes referred to as Gypos, tinks, tinklers, etc) are descended from people displaced from Ireland due to the famine, do you think it is right to use these terms or do you think that the Famine Song is no more harmful than calling a Dingwallian a gypo? I never actually knew that thats where those terms came from. BUT...its the context you use it in. If i call a County fan a gypo, i use it in the context of football banter, no harm really intended. But if i was to use it as a means of being racist, then thats diffrent. I do see where you are coming from though and it has made me think....

I dont think Munro hsa been too bad considering what he has to put up with. I think if he got a decent partner like Dodds was, he would be good. Though i agree hes not captain material.

The downside to this game is that looking at our results this season, we are due a win in this game, then ANOTHER bad result against the Pars.

Take away everything but the baisics of Butchers reign in charge. He got us relegated, he was at fault for us losing one of the best prospects we have ever had, and he is one of the main reasons we are currently sitting on 9 points in the SFL1 with only 1 home point.

Was just about to say the same . Oh and DornochCaley, you're a knob Thats nice to know :)

Each post, game we fail to perform and fan complaint is just another blow to my support of Inverness. I love the club, but its beging to dwindle. Slowly and surely, its dwindling. Unless i see that things are changing, my love will continue to fall.

I agree, also great post from Wilsy. And what has happened to our singers? - hardly any songs today at all, even when we were playing well in the first half. I do think that the singing and great atmosphere at away games must play quite a big part in our good away form. We were a bit deflated with how much stick we have been getting recently.

Right, this is the kinda person who in my opinion shoud feck off and never come back to the TCS. Youa re an absolute jke and its insulting to be called an ICT supporter when we have idiots like you. I am a season ticket holder with Inverness CT, my seat is in the back row of Section G and i have supported this club since 1994 and even Caley from 1992 and im only 21 years old. How old are you? or are you still living in the past with the Caley/Thistle divide. That is what is killing this club off when the stadium is full of "fans" who still think this is two teams. Section G seems to be only place that has genuine ICT supporters who have followed this club through thick and thin. Im sure there are probably more but the majority i bet are still the older generation who see two clubs playing at home in theTCS, not one. I look around the stadium and i see dour-faced arseholes who sit in their seats and criticise the team from a distance and never show their support vocally. These w*****s should pi$ off now. id rather see Inverness Caledonian Thistle play infront of 100 true ICT fans each home game rather than 2,500 idiots. Get real and get with the times. Inverness Caledonian & Inverness Thistle are DEAD!!! Inverness Caledonian Thistle is our club now and fecking get behind them insted of whinging and complaining about things that happen part and parcel with modern football. I am VERY close to telling ICT to stuff their season ticket and i wont be back until these morons are gone. Thanks. Your right I will stop going to all the games just because I say what I feel about it. I have supported the club since 1994 as well (and im 18 years old), I have got a season ticket for this year and been to every League game this season home and away if we are going to go down that road of stating our achievements about how well we support the club. What did I say that offended you so much. The support at TCS is crap just now so what would make it worse if the "section G" left? I dont want you to leave becuase we do need you at the ground but when I go to the home games I dont get why people talk on here about section G being particuarly great. The only diference I see it that the few back rows stand up and sing one or two songs throughout the match. There isnt anything special about that though is there? If people get on at you for swearing too much then you have to try and respect that and tone it down a little becuase they cant be complaining about when you are singing becuase there is a general lack of that so it must be in the conversations which can easily cut out swearing. To get a decent atmosphere you need to have more people to sing with you. The only was you are going to do that is by getting the small children to join in but that wont happen if their mum and dads wont let them go up to sit beside you lot becuase of the things they might hear when they are up there. and for your information im not one of the people that moan there heads off at every slack pass. I dont abuse Butcher during the game. I go there to support the club, I dont sit up in the back of the North Stand because I dont know anybody up theire anymore. I used to know most of them but they all stopped going to the games so I moved seats but there is nothing that would make me want to sit up there, I might not do by singing and shouting anymore (at the home games) but I do it in the way I feel is the next best manner of supporting your team. I try to get behind them and support them in every way I can so I dont see why I should not be allowed to go back just because you think that I am against people singing. I am not I think there should be more but if you try to deny that the atmosphere at TCS is crap then it is you who has serious problems not me Its crap now, but there would be NONE if we didnt go to the games.