Laurence

On ‎13‎/‎09‎/‎2017 at 3:49 PM, Charles Bannerman said:

How many of our players would NEED to run round the ground 50 times? I'm afraid Laurence's observation doesn't quite match the training activity with the competitive demands. I remember discussing this with Charlie Christie when he was manager, and finding a lot of agreement. The specific performance requirements of a 90 minute game of football are very far removed from, and far more complex than, very extended, steady paced running as described. Any manager who exposed his players to this kind of activity would find that his team very quickly got into extreme difficulty.

As for Inverness Harriers, apart from our club policy that our coaching resources are targeted exclusively at the needs of our own members so we don't offer a "fitness service" for other sports, the second quoted sentence over-simplifies the activities of an athletics club just as much as the first does with football. I'm also quite sure that ICT management are perfectly well qualified to devise fitness and conditioning regimes which are absolutely specific to football.

I bow to your much superior knowledge on Fitness training

Again I quote Mr Clough - " Only place running will get you is the 4th Division ".

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Brian Clough once said  " How do yo make Millionaires sweat " ?   This indicates that footballers really don't care for training

My Dad a Rochdale Harrier, would run 50 times around the Rochdale Hornets Rugby ground.

How many of our players could run around our ground 50 times.

I suggest the team are booked into the Inverness Harrier club , for some hard training on the nearby Hills. A wee bit of cross country will do them good.

2 .1 HT

2.1  FT

1500

With  pistol to my head if I got it wrong

I don't care to say

Put Charles in charge of Fitness training. I believe he was quite an athlete years ago.

Fan is a shortened version of fanatic. It is hard to be fanatic about a team that will probably just survive in this Divisions.

Something has to be done it is no good expecting fans  to continually pay to watch the demise of the team they love.

If the goalkeeping problem is about management pride, it is not acceptable

Absolutely spot on  Kingsmills

I would add - Williams is a professional goalkeeper an International - These days regretfully player power is just part and parcel of any club set up.  ICT should realise  that and be thankful we have him. If he wants out because of wages , that can be addressed for sure.  If there are other reasons the manager should agree to let him go as soon as he can get a replacement in the next transfer window. I am not sure about the transfer regulations in Scotland , but I have feeling loan players can be brought in at anytime.

He should be played if at all fit. No question

England fast bowler James Anderson bowled Kraigg Brathwaite to reach 500 Test match wickets, only the sixth bowler in history to reach that mark.

Anderson took 129 matches to break 500 and those wickets came at just over 27 runs apiece and became the first Englishman to break 500. 

I suppose off topic, but in my lifetime - Liverpool fans wrecked trains. Scotland Supporters wrecked  a part of Wembley, Millwall fans created havoc,

West Ham fans knifed  vising supporters , I could go on,  People at Brechin did wrong, But what do you want, Charles , put them in Stocks, burn them on a stake, flog them in public ?

Let's move on, I am just glad I am not a parent of one of the boys. I feel a lot of  their Mum's and Dad's are trying to get their heads around this aspect, which will surely affect family life.

Maybe counselling by friends and relations will help.

Not being one to cast the stone , in a biblical sense , I did not have a lily white  time  myself as a teenager.

I shall not complain,  as I am sure the Police and the authorities will take the appropriate action, and those involved will learn that  this sort of behaviour will not be accepted by the main public at large

I  do hope that if suitable remorse is shown by the youngsters no banning order will not be permanent.

1 1  at half time at Wembley

England are not playing very well at all

13 hours ago, Scarlet Pimple said:

Fair enough.

For me, though, since I can't attend games and can no longer see the  videos for "Overseas viewers", all of which I was able to view last season, I am  just asking a straightforward question as to  why the fans often say  on here  that the referee's  decisions against our team were ludicrous and unmerited which does seem a bit odd.

With the new Chairman now in place, and seemingly setting a much more realistic and  true course than his immediate predecessor, perhaps we can now win a few games despite "iffy" officiating. Thereby proving your point perhaps.

Fans and referees ?  It was always so.

Anybody watching the Manchester City v Everton match on TV  would see that  matches at the top level with highly trained professional referees  are not exempt from the wrath of spectators.

The point is that fans and pundits are seeing games through the very rose coloured glasses .  Remember the handball involving Meekings at Celtic , how the compensator would not shut up about it for at least an hour after the game.

My point is that  teams have their fate in their own hands if they play well and score goals,  No need to worry about refs.

With my Caley hat on  the match I thought was not a match of two hales , but a match of 20 minutes  and the rest . The game until we scored was all Caley  shot after shot  came from the team, but no reward.

Probably the worst thing we could do was score.  It just led to complacency , players I fell began to think the job was done.

With my football watchers hat on , I felt the game was not a classic but good entertainment , end to end stuff. Morton's 4 4 2 line up seemed to be working two quick lads up front for them never stopped working.

Towards the end of the game Morton were unlucky to not score as they piled on the pressure.  The old song , " you are supposed to be at home" , came to mind

Having said all that Morton finished 4th last season and beat St Mirren 4 .1 this season , so they are obviously a dangerous outfit, . I thought the referee was none to bad, he gave a lot of the doubt and early on let the game flow.

We seem to get frustrated with decisions and paid the price for bad mouthing the Ref.  Poor psychology an issue the manager must address. If we get suspensions during the seaso for such behaviour the players are to blame not the Ref. 

Not a good day at the office for the lads, they must work on their composure.

4 minutes ago, jagster said:

Not sure if this counts as the next match but it's currently 0-0 at half time with Nairn County 

Good news , is there light in this never ending tunnel, or will be all wake up and find it is all just a dream ? They say water finds if own level but  NAIRN COUNTY . Is that our level?

I went to the Historic Scotland  day at Fort George on Sunday

The Ice cream man told me he was a Falkirk fan,  We talked about our season so far , He ( not me ) blamed Yogi for sowing the seeds of the demise -  but putting that aside  he said as a Falkirk supporter the one team he feared was Greenock  Morton  F C . He said they were quick youngish and good passers of the ball , unbeaten this year with a good 4 '1 win against St. Mirren under their belts.  I began to worry.  They have a cup game against Livingston  a few days before they meet us so hopefully they will be tired 

On ‎10‎/‎08‎/‎2017 at 2:06 AM, Fraz said:

Hard to add anything or disagree with anything Chris has said in the OP.

Laurence - either he/she pronoun for Chris may be OK, did you consider they may be gender fluid? 

I believe in France - Laurence is Nom du fils - My son was once going out with a French girl, called Laurence - He remarked " I once told a girl you have the same name as my  Mum, -  but my Dad ! "

Goodness me !  I feel really depressed after reading the above.  As a blow-in to the Highlands ( I arrived in 2009 )  I probably don't hurt as much as many of the very  loya ICT l fans do. 

I remember a long time ago how my boyhood team Bury went through a phase not much different to now at ICT ,  Selling  or losing good players to neighbours Bolton.  The owner losing all his wealth speculating on the stock exchange. ( his creditors seizing his financial  assets in payment )  '  The High court saved the club by ruling that the ground could not be sold to Tesco or anyone else because of a 19th century  covenant ) ,  

The fans bought the club  which was later re-sold to a consortium who had enough cash to acquire the famous Carrington training ground.

My only highlight on Saturday was going downstairs at half time to the bar  behind the stand to see the top item  on the TV , Bury 1 Walsall 0.

I ask you all to  as The Buddha-Said,  "“Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.”" -  It is the only way. 

True !  season tickets cost a small fortune, about 30p short of £280 - and that is a concession for a very senior person. Now in his 75th year. If like someone said , ICT will be out of the big time for years, I probably won't be around to see  the improvement, so I will live for the present and hope the gaffer can turn things around to make the 50 mile round trip from my home in Boat of Garten  worthwhile 

I still feel very depressed -  I thought the original post on this topic  by ictchris  to be one  the best diatribes I have ever read on this forum,  s/he is the be complimented  on the way s/he has presented   the situation for people like me who do not follow events at the club very closely, who just like to see a game of football, and do not understand exactly what is going on at the club in general.

added  later -  I now realise ictchris is male, only when I read his profile did it dawn on me.

Cheers folks - How things change.. Water and bridges over such a small amount of time.

I shall pull another knife out of my back,  your anatomisation to me is getting rather tedious

With one or two exceptions Neymar is probably  as good as it gets in a footballer .  I can see where he is coming from . I would love to see him play live if I ever could get the chance. Worth a trip to  a big City in the UK if I could get a ticket.

Lineup: Brill, Tremarco, Warren, Meekings, Shinnie, Doran, Draper, Watkins (Polworth 90), Ross, Foran, McKay
Subs (not used): Esson, Raven, Devine, Greenhalgh, Pepper, Agdestein
Scorers: Ross (pen.14), McKay (18)
Booked: none
Sent Off: none

I was wondering  after I saw  Johnny Hayes in a Celtic shirt  , Where is  the last  Terry Who ?  team today , some I know but some I don.t  - Also there are other Butcher finds like Christie and - James Vincent would be a squad player I think  

 I think Tansey came later.

Anyone care to elaborate and the size of any transfer fee , I would find interesting -

I can't say the match was a world class exhibition , but a lot of good play was seen from both teams , disappointed yes, but we live to fight another day.

I was not in a position to note whether the penalty was rightly called but judging by the way the United unit on the bench immediately jumped up and appealed it looked like  the Arabs had a good case.

United started with 3  centre halves and no fullbacks as such giving ICT a free run especially on the left with some superb play  on the left wing and on the left mid field .  Quite frankly  some great crosses  from the left were fritted away by some poor finishing

I can' t understand why corner after corner was floated in only for the  goalkeeper in Orange ( strange to be allowed to play in the colours of his team )  collected the ball with some degree of skill.  Why not a shrt corner or two which can be worked into the box

A word about discipline , so many bookings , is not good , I lost count, this will only result in suspensions in the later part of the seasons.  After the suspensions of last season we  really need to be more careful in not arguing with officials .

I was taught when talking to refs in my day. It was yes Sir, no Si,r 3 bags full Sir. .

I thought on the whole there were quite a few positives in the game for ICT. Talking to some D U supporters after the game many of them said they though Caley was the best team/

I think we can only get better as the team get some co-ordination up front

I just want to say. Another media frenzy about a private matter, which must be vey sad for the children.  I quite like Jamie I feel sorry when any marriage breaks up especially for the children. Apparently Strickly come Dancing is to blame ?

I am an old softie

I think I would just try and save the Rhino

If I had enough cash I would buy the plastic bottle factory and close it down. That would help sea pollution . I am not a Green but some features can't be ignored

Regarding football  I wouldn't know where to start   ( I think we need loads of ball boys/girls so quick throw ins  would be the order of the day. Have you ever watched how Chelsea have the ball back in play so quick it is unbelievable.)

Getting the ball back into play can be worth points at the end of the season.  the opps won't get the ball until our players are in position.

AS Charles said " tongue in cheek maybe " , maybe football would not really be a priority .  Do you really want a Celtic or a Rangers system ?

It would be pointless - Making Europe as we did with small resources is in a way  was more satisfactory then any money bought success

Charles - at bridge club I have been partnering an old mate of yours , Richard he has been  waxing lyrical about your past and abilities.

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