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I'm not invalidating their decision, but what I am saying is that they just don't know enough about the laws of the game...at all. And most of them would admit it. It is well known that many players, managers and pundits do not know enough about the laws of the game, **** I know of a few who have publicly admitted it. You cannot have an unqualified manager giving a rating for a referee, especially if that referee had been involved in that particular managers match. Can you imagine if we had managers like Arsene Wenger, who fails to see anything that his team has done wrong, in the same room as a referee, trying to judge him? It just wouldn't work. The only way we can improve relations between Managers and Referees is if the clubs actually send along delegates, managers and players to the regular meetings that the SFA hold with their referees to discuss decisions. Also, players need to actually know all the laws of the game, and I think that they should be put through the referee test, or at least a test on the laws of the game. Especially the younger ones (I remember a match with Ross County vs Hamilton u/14's where they were trying to say that you could be offside from a throw-in) and it wouldn't harm them. This guy at the Killie match will most likely be punished, just look at the fixtures and where he is thrown to. Remember the famous incident at with Rangers and Hearts last season? From getting pretty much an SPL game every week, he was thrown down to do 3rd and 2nd Division matches for a few months. That is how you punish them. I do agree that there should be a board where managers can discuss certain decisions, shed light and have some form of input, but in the form of actually rating the referee it can't be done.

If I bloody get a concession this time. "Nah, sorry mate, we don't do student discount" "Yeah but you club says you do." "Well, we don't" In that stupid annoying Livi Scummy Accent.

Did Rangers not try some sort of Smart Card that failed to work?

Damaging seats allegedly? There is no allegedly about it, it was a ******* disgrace that these neds did it. There was a guy next to me who was clearly trying to kick a seat in. I hope the club gets fined for this, might make these little runts stand up and think what they are doing. Congratulations to the old man who turned round and said something about it, hooligans is not what we want at this club.

I shall be there!

I find that a poor idea BE! Managers don't know enough, and see things through tinted eyes when it comes to referees. What we need is more money put into the development of referees, and also for refs to actually have a better relationship with the press. That and teams actually need to start teaching players about the rules of the game, and put them through the initial Referee's course.

Aye, was gutting IHE!! Only me and ITNjnr made it through on the train (although Riley turned up later on apparently). Left getting stuck at Livi South for 2 hours harder to take as well! But such is life, still getting annoyed at CC's inability to make a substitution. Ok, we were heading for a loss, so what would it have mattered if we gave young Ben Jackson a wee run about! Was cautious over Tokely's inclusion, but he played well. Morgan was dire, until we went behind then he seemed to come up with the goods, and Barry Wilson was everywhere! Ach, was an allright day out!