Johnboy

I always saw Vigurs as a player destined to fill Blackie's boots next season...

The next few days/weeks are going to very difficult. Surely to God the board/DoF/management team owe the support some kind of an explanation as to their intentions and just how they propose to proceed from here.

It has taught most of us Robbo and Barry could do a better job than brew and malky And Terry & Mo...

The lad has an under 19 Scottish cap... He has never let the side down once - whether coming off the bench or on from the start... You just don't kick players like that out the door.... CaleyP - tell him from me, that this will probably end up being a good move for him - wherever he goes.

I'm sorry.... I've completely lost faith in our management team and DoF...

A very youthful side you have Mr Snaarf. I think Vigurs plays well with Senior and more experienced players as he gets kept on the right path along the way. Could definatly see him in ESSON TOKELY PAVELS MUNRO TOKELY MORAIS KERR VIGURS IMRIE ROONEY BARROWMAN Love your back 4... Has Rosscoe got a twin brother?

Butcher's obviously never rated Vigurs as a decent prospect... I agree - big mistake.

All we needed to secure our SPL status was a nil-nil draw. I sincerely believe we would have achieved that with 11 players on the park for 90 mins. I don't think Rossco should shoulder all the blame... He was suckered into the tackle with Lovell who, it has to be said, went down very easily. Rossco admitted in an interview with the Courier on Friday he was happy to be picked to play anywhere for the team, but did admit he was more comfortable at full back. You began your opening post by saying - "Monday morning - and I'm still alive" Well good for you! You are indeed fortunate in that most of the pain you have suffered through the team's relegation, has stemmed from critisism of the manager... Why not spare a thought for all those connected with the club now set to lose their jobs because of the defeat on Saturday. Aren't they entitled to question some of decisions that were taken on Saturday that led to our demise?

Ok... here's the first neggie comment.... If Butcher would just come out and admit he made a big mistake by playing Rossco at centre- back and Pavels at right-back, and that it ended up costing us the match - he would rise considerably in my esteem... But will he do that? Should ICT persist with a management team not prepared to own up and admit serious mistakes were made over our past 3 games? The thing is we had actually reached a point where we were 5 points clear of relegation - How did it all go so badly wrong from that moment up until the end?.

I wonder what his tea leaves might be saying about TB & MM's future with ICT?

Thread on where Tokely should be played.... Quote Johnboy With his height and aerial ability the big man's a natural centre-half. I'd love to see him getting a run in that slot with Pavels playing a kind of sweeper role... :D doh

If Bazza was to come back - as player/asst coach to John Robertson, I'd put money on Caley coming straight back into the SPL. A dream team if ever there was one.

I honestly think that's been the problem.... Unfortunately for the big man he looks like a centre-half.... Butcher obviously thought that too.

We lost the match because Tokely was sent off. Playing out of his accustomed position was a major contributory factor...

Had Robbo been in charge yesterday one thing I can guarantee is that Rossco and Pavels wouldn't have been in the wrong positions... That cost us the sending off, the match and our SPL status. BUTCHER HAS TO TAKE THE BLAME.

I was interested but then again, I'm a football fan. I guess you're not. My point was I couldn't give a chit which one of the OF won the league. Sorry if that offended your sense of propriety.

I'd welcome him back tomorrow with open arms... His coaching credentials would probably not go amiss in the event of a management re-shuffle.

God could have done a bit more....

The naive manager's successor didn't seem to see the obvious need for an experienced striker either. I agree with the Chief Exec. with a football background suggestion.

He was our most reliable keeper... At the very least we are surely entitled to an explanation as to why he was dropped.

Believe there's a couple of games on in the SPL this afternoon - maybe even on tv but I couldn't give an Eartha Kitt.... :angry:

Are we going to re-structure over the next few days? Tell us more!!

Interesting.... Maybe a stepping stone for him to get back here again!

Butcher had us in a safe position about 3 weeks ago... Tragically he completely fecked it up by dropping Esson and Mihadjuks, playing Tokely in a position in a position he clearly wasn't comfortable with. He persisted with Djebi-Zadi and Imrie despite their unreliablity.... Scotland haven't benefitted a helluva lot from having him as Number 2 either.

Maybe because Butcher obviously wasn't the man for the job.