davie

Pointless thread.We'll know whether or not we can win the league on the second last day of the season when we are six points ahead. Till then, there's no point in discussing it.

Under a clubs right to put highlights online (without paying a fee), they are only allowed to do so on their own official website. If anyone else wishes to do it then they have to become a "media partner" and pay a license fee.

Those who already provide the service do so through the clubs official site, or a separate club owned/controlled media site, and it is done under the clubs rights. The club do not have the authority to transfer those rights to a third party.

I believe a joint-venture site would be acceptable under the rules so long as you give the club 50 or 51% of the say.

Anyone see the guy with the camcorder today?

All ICT games are recorded for training I believe.

So, they have the technology, it's being used already and they have someone to do the filming. Then they miss out the revenue raising bit, the good PR bit and the service to the fans bit despite any amount of goodwill being expressed in helping the "community based" club to take the idea forward? Who would have believed it.

Smee, come on. Sanchez made, or had a hand in two of the goals! Great to watch, passing was good and the finishing was great. Defence could have been made to look a bit wobbly by a more decent side. Esson steady. I am thinking that we are hitting a bit of form at exactly the right time. Only down side was Barrowman's miss right on full time. I was really hoping he'd score and make the muppets that continue to leave early just a wee bit sick at having missed something. As well as cheering off your side at the end of the game.

Aleksander, from the advert. Can't do a clicky thing from work, but go to "compare the meerkat.com" I'll get rid of it when the little sod begins to annoy me.

I suppose these trolls were bound to appear at some point. But after one cracking result? Go back to your repossessed glesca cave dwelling.

What's about inflatable whippets? or white transit vans?

Top of the league, six points clear, one game to go. That's the place to be. Everything else is just moving the furniture about.

Hud oan. Is there really a prospect of P/T football or is it just gobsh*te? If true, why is this not the biggest, angriest thread going. Why is there not revolution in the air? If not true, why is a senior player stirring it? Is it me or does this club get worse by the day?

I remember Savage saying that he wanted to "introduce boutique football to showcase other players". I assume that in his eyes, Niculae was just the first in a range of designer labels to be showcased at the Orion Dome.

**** that.

Wait a minute. You'd rather be in Div3 than be a showcase for talent? Is that so you could languish there and carp on about a committee rather than a board in a small town environment that perfectly mirrors your personality? Every successful team nowadays is a business, and the more backing you have the bigger the business/ team. Hoffenheim know that, Chievo know that. ICT's problem is with the controlling interest at the club that mitigates against any inward investment because it means a loss of control. Savage battle? bring it on.

Previous poster said he was a "hunk" ? Of what, wood? He certainly plays like one. He's static, his game sense is poor, his tackiling isnae great and he's anaonymous for loooooong spells. However, Butcher signed = Butcher will play him.

I have sat through worse games, although some of the football was dire. Not, mind you, as dire as the officials (Imrie's booking, why?) Proctor shone, Cox was good Imrie getting there, Foran good again (why the substitution? He certainly wasnae chuffed with it) and Esson saved the jerseys again. Narius solid, but these are about it. Did any one notice how many headers Granty won against Bayne - it was none. Terry needed to swop that one round at HT, put the taller guy in against him but didn't. What was wrong with Roscoe? He looked a shadow of the player he was last season. He looks utterly unhappy. Please remove Sandford from the vicinity, he contributes nothing (apart from yet another opportunity for our "fans" to bitch at each other in public) Oh, and while you're at it get rid of Rooney. He's slow, one dimensional, his decision making and game sense are poor and his finishing was woeful. It could have so different had Proctor's late shot not hit the bar, but that's life. There's no team in this league that's streets better than us, so if we start picking up points it could get markedly better very quickly. Or.........

Last night I witnessed ICT actually win a game, for the first time in 22 months!

In that time I've seen a few draws, lots of defeats, and more than my fair share of hammerings and shambolic, gutless performances. The 4-0 at Falkirk was a particular low point, and very typical of my choice of games to attend - we'd won the week before, and won the week after. I'm not superstitious, but it got to the stage at the end of last season when I started to believe that my presence was somehow causing bad results.

After the split, I picked up the car keys to head off to Paisley but then thought "No, they'll do better without me". We won, of course.

Unfortunately, I felt obliged to attend the crunch match on the last day of the season. It's all my fault.

Yngwie. You have got to be there on Saturday for several reasons, all vital to the future of ICT:

1. If your luck has turned, all will benefit and we shall beat the fifers.
   
2. If your luck has not turned, we have at last identified the jonas and we can throw you, the general manager, the board, team and ballboys off the bridge. Closely followed by several hundred sweetie rustling greeters.
   
3. I think you'd better pray for the right result.
   

:)

The abysmal run of matches started after a fantastic week or so in December 2007. I became a dad, watched us come back to beat Celtic 3-2, and then last tasted victory in that injury time 3-2 win at Tynecastle. Life couldn't get any better. But perhaps I then got my 22 month punishment for abandoning Mrs Y and the wee Yngwette.

Anyway, that bad run is over, the tide has turned, our fortunes have changed, and things are very much looking up. You heard it here first.

TBH I'm not a fan. I think he's slow, which is why he always tries to cut inside rather than take his man out wide. He rarely goes at his full back one on one and his game sense is poor. Playing the ball back is always the safer option. He has got a really good left foot cross (no right foot at all) but what's the point if he rarely gets into position to use it?

Just waiting on this design to clear processing....

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Brilliant, just a bit concerned they will be to thick over the bridge to get it.

I just want to hear the sound of a few hundred pennies dropping. Mon, Caley D, get them going in time for the game at Mingwall.

This thread is trash. Vigurs plays for County, I care not what he has said or done. I do care what TB has said though, and I think he's absolutely right in this case. I can think of very few managers who would not have put up with the incessant moaning from the main stand for this length of time. Respect? you've got exactly as much as you deserve mate.

If you were a teller in a bank and a customer was abusive would you respond in kind? If you did you'd find yourself out of a job or on a disciplinary at the very least. Butcher has lost the dressing room, the support and now he's lost the plot.

Dude, I don't normally disagree with you but I do on this one. Generalisations don't prove anything, and if I was abused to that degree at work, I'd have the guilty removed before it got near responding. Don't suppose TB's got that luxury.

In reply to the OP, you are talking s**te. He literally bled for the team yesterday, and deserves better support than you are capable of.

This thread appears to mirror the state of the club - All the supporters posting on here are projecting their anger on to each other - I think that we all share the same frustrations but have different ways of showing and verbalising them. As most will know I always head to Section G and even if I am an embarassing old **** I will stand up, start songs and join in. BUT I do not shout abuse at players and I support the team to the final whistle - I then vent my anger and air my opinions in the pub and on here. As far as I am concerned - that is a real fan.

The idea of a Singing Section has been aired fer years and hasnt gone anywhere - that is simply ridiculous for a club like us - there is no problem in siting the Kiddie pen where it is - but the singing section should be to the right of the goals - leave the section free for singing season ticket holders and interested others.

But then there has to be leeway by the stewards and they can be as provocative and antagonising as a sweetie rustler.

But yet again - this is yet another notion that will not be made under the current regime. The muppets are even getting us at each others throats.

Words of wisdom mate. If someone can tell me what a singing section is I'd be glad. In my day, the singing section was the whole f**king ground, and it was all the better for it. I'm sick to death of people carping on here about how their bairns are going to be psychologically scarred by hearing the odd sweary word at a football match. DONT FECKIN BRING THEM THEN. Leave them in the playground where they will hear and use exactly the same language. If they want to watch football great - but bring them in full knowledge. I've never come across such a self absorbed support in my life. There is no welcome, no atmosphere and no camaraderie. This remains the only ground anywhere that I've been threatened with assault by a supporter of the same team. So the muppets etc, are a side issue IHE - it's the fans. Full stop.

Don't know about a slippery slope. If you look at things rationally, we are no better and no worse than the majority of clubs in this division and I think that's proved by results. So I don't think we will really know who's going up until April at the earliest. Given that with wins against twa fifers we could be back up there, this might be a tad premature of a time to panic. I an't pro Butcher BTW, I'm pro ICT.

This thread is trash. Vigurs plays for County, I care not what he has said or done. I do care what TB has said though, and I think he's absolutely right in this case. I can think of very few managers who would not have put up with the incessant moaning from the main stand for this length of time. Respect? you've got exactly as much as you deserve mate.

Certainly. I'm talking about people like "mainstander" who use euphamisms like "the decent majoraty" (sic) who are being "chased away" through "hatred" from football by the "mindless majoraty" (sic, again) in support of a pretty vacuous argument. From the volume of posts hereabouts, it would seem that "majority" is not his term to use. The vast majority defend the behaviour of fans, even if in occasion it's expressed in words I'd rather not use, and as long is dosn't descend into hatred, bigotry, homophobia or racism. The OP was talking about the fact that the G word was banter, which it patently is and used by the majority around here. So, as long as they keep going to football, people like "mainstander" will be what they are; a non representative minority that are as free as anyone else to voice their opinion. And the big man's right - surely that's enough now.

Can the 'vast majority' (not your term to use?) ask that you substitute defend with tolerate?

read the posts, absent friend, and tally them up for and against. I did before I used that term, and it's ours to use.

This is what you mainstand guys just don't seem to get, and it's at the core of this. The use of "industrial" language does not imply hate. It implies that it is the common language of the common man who is (or most likely was) the mainstay of football support who went to games on a saturday and voiced their support as best they could. Like most ingrained traditions, they die hard and there will continue to be conflict with Keano's "prawn sandwiches brigade" who have adopted footy and hide behind euphamisms instead of saying things the way they are. It will be like this until one or other eventually prevails. And it won't be you lot.

Explain please.

Certainly. I'm talking about people like "mainstander" who use euphamisms like "the decent majoraty" (sic) who are being "chased away" through "hatred" from football by the "mindless majoraty" (sic, again) in support of a pretty vacuous argument. From the volume of posts hereabouts, it would seem that "majority" is not his term to use. The vast majority defend the behaviour of fans, even if in occasion it's expressed in words I'd rather not use, and as long is dosn't descend into hatred, bigotry, homophobia or racism. The OP was talking about the fact that the G word was banter, which it patently is and used by the majority around here. So, as long as they keep going to football, people like "mainstander" will be what they are; a non representative minority that are as free as anyone else to voice their opinion. And the big man's right - surely that's enough now.

"euphamisms" (sic)?... try "euphEmisms" :D

Charles, I was in a hurry and oh dear! I hang my head in shame. :029:

This is what you mainstand guys just don't seem to get, and it's at the core of this. The use of "industrial" language does not imply hate. It implies that it is the common language of the common man who is (or most likely was) the mainstay of football support who went to games on a saturday and voiced their support as best they could. Like most ingrained traditions, they die hard and there will continue to be conflict with Keano's "prawn sandwiches brigade" who have adopted footy and hide behind euphamisms instead of saying things the way they are. It will be like this until one or other eventually prevails. And it won't be you lot.

Explain please.

Certainly. I'm talking about people like "mainstander" who use euphamisms like "the decent majoraty" (sic) who are being "chased away" through "hatred" from football by the "mindless majoraty" (sic, again) in support of a pretty vacuous argument. From the volume of posts hereabouts, it would seem that "majority" is not his term to use. The vast majority defend the behaviour of fans, even if in occasion it's expressed in words I'd rather not use, and as long is dosn't descend into hatred, bigotry, homophobia or racism. The OP was talking about the fact that the G word was banter, which it patently is and used by the majority around here. So, as long as they keep going to football, people like "mainstander" will be what they are; a non representative minority that are as free as anyone else to voice their opinion. And the big man's right - surely that's enough now.

I sit in the main stand and we certanly need the singing from the north stand to get our lot started!

But why the use of offensive words. No need for hate, just positive support for our team.

Suggestion. - Use Tink instead of Gypsy or is that word also racist?

Neksor,

This is what you mainstand guys just don't seem to get, and it's at the core of this. The use of "industrial" language does not imply hate. It implies that it is the common language of the common man who is (or most likely was) the mainstay of football support who went to games on a saturday and voiced their support as best they could. Like most ingrained traditions, they die hard and there will continue to be conflict with Keano's "prawn sandwiches brigade" who have adopted footy and hide behind euphamisms instead of saying things the way they are. It will be like this until one or other eventually prevails. And it won't be you lot.

I'll take that one, although it was a real scraped win. Agree with other posters, thought Esson was immense, Foran good, Hayes good,Cox also. Why does TB persist with Eagles? Poor laddie couldn't do a damn thing right today. Pushed on at the wrong times, dropped off at the wrong times and couldn't tackle. Goal was a cross, but thanks.

Interestingly, I asked the steward if I had to sit in the seat on my ticket to be told "you can sit wherever you want, and stand if you want as long as nobody's view is blocked" Obvious cave in MS and the club, so the only result has been humiliating headlines in the press over a non-issue. great.

from the p& j article: Northern Constabulary Inspector Blair Marquis said: "Allegations of racism are rarely encountered at the stadium, though if they are then they are treated seriously.". How many allegatons made against ICT fans exactly?

I think under freedom of information legislation it would be possible to put this to bed. It's hardly portraying ICT fans in a good light. I also think that the "fans representatives" at the meeting were unhappy with the fact that the word bas tards was being used before gypsy. What is with these precious "fans"? is there ANY football club with such a negative, boring element?

Here's the full p&j story:

http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1423887

after alex pointed out the overthebridge boards on this issue it's pretty evident that the whole thing is an absolute farce.

Ha! I was thinking the same FOI enquiry thing myself. That would give us an accurate scale to the issue, and perhaps give MS something to think about, providing he's not wearing his boring, negative DILLIGAF t-shirt. Oh, it's a permanent tattoo.........BTW, what happens when they sing "I'd rather be a gypsy than a tink"? Form an orderly queue to complain.