Row S

16 hours ago, caleyboy said:

The club has a number of people who make rediculous decisions and don't have the balls to put their hands up and take responsibility. 

 If our situation wasn't as bad as it is I would give that comment a rofl, but sadly you are absolutely right. I wonder if RF had a hand in choosing that strip too.

A change of manager seems to be working for Dundee so far today. Just to rub salt in our wounds Ross, Vincent and Williams all seem to be playing their part. That's us pretty well fooked now!

When I made postings in November and December last year about how I felt we were sinking into the mire and feared the worst I was lambasted by quite a few folk on this forum and told to stop being so negative. Now when you read nearly every posting on tonight's game these seem to vindicate my "alleged" ramblings. Nevertheless I have continued to go to matches in the hope that we might turn the corner. No chance though after witnessing tonight's debacle, not helped again by not getting the rub of the green from yet another referee.

I was also listening to Barry Wilson and Charlie Christie on Radio Scotland whilst driving back early from Dungwall. Yes, I was one of the several who left immediately after the fourth goal. Up until this season I had never left a game before the final whistle. I must have left at least five times this year alone and tonight was the earliest, with 30 minutes to go. Some folk around us left when the second goal went in and headed for The Mallard.

Charlie touched on a number of matters post match that suggested there are more deep seated issues, which I also heard strong rumours about two weeks ago. With poor home attendances and not kicking on after our Cup win, youth and Under 20s players not being offered new contracts, a large senior squad with a high wage bill and retaining a manager because the Board can't afford to sack him, all points to a club in serious financial trouble. Yet we have been told the Club has been in the black for a few seasons now?

If the rumours I heard from more than one source are true (and I desperately hope not), then we don't just face dropping into The Championship, but League 2 for next season, just like that dark force of evil from Govan. This would be very very grave indeed and I fear we might never recover from it.

Is there something more deep seated than just a difference of opinion on the way the club is being run? How secure are we financially if we go down?

4 hours ago, rocky1 said:

Rumour has it that some did resign this week at the routine meeting !

Yes and they've brought back the psychotherapist who helped them win the old 1st Division in 2010. May be he can psyche up the players enough to go on a winning run until the end of the season and overhaul Dundee by 12 points again. Positive thinking or am I dreaming? 

10 hours ago, Kingsmills said:

Much as expected. If we are going to have any chance of survival it is essential that we win our remaining two home games. To do that we need every edge and advantage we can including a large and supportive home crowd.

In order to encourage that backing, I believe that the club should charge £5 for adults and £2 for concessions for both matches and advertise that fact as widely as possible in the local media. I appreciate that that will lose income in the region of forty thousand pounds or so but that is very small beer compared to the reduction in income in excess of a million pounds for every season we might have to spend in the lower leagues. Every effort must be made to encourage as many people away from the Retail Park and down to East Longman.

Couldn't agree more. We could do with about half of those who were in our end of Hampden for the 2015 Scottish cup final to provide more vocal support. All our remaining games are just as important with every one a cup final. Don't see why the local press and radio station can't help drum up support too.

I was told that Russel Latapy was sacked for something he did that was nothing to do with football. If so that was a great pity as I also think the team was faring better with him.

He should have gone in November last year, when he lost the dressing room and said he's to blame. That's also when the players got together to see how they could improve things. They have all failed since then to kick on and climb the league.

If I was in Richie's position at that time I would have walked to save what was left of my dignity. Now it's just ridiculous to let things go so far towards the Abyss. I really don't understand how the Board have keep faith in him so long. 

I'd go for a 4-4-2 as follows: -

Fon Williams

Raven - McCart - MacNaughton - Tremarco

Mulraney - Tansey - Laing - Cole

Mckay - Fisher

 Subs: Esson plus 6 others drawn from that tombola drum thingy in the photo. 

14 hours ago, IBM said:

Och Scarlet you are an awful man  I hope IHE has not been leading you astray  where I was in the north stand behind the goals it was a clear penalty as I seen it and all round about me had no complaints about it as for the rest of the game the ref was ******* awful although we did not do enough to win the game! 

That assessment of the penalty incident and what followed pretty much sums it up for me too. We were holding our heads in our hands after Brad's lunge and for a lot of the rest of the game too.

Another freebie for the Dons.

"Electrical fault" isn't even an anagram of "April Fool".

I've been waiting all season for us to really cut loose and thrash a team. The closest we came to that was the 3-0 win at Motherwell but we have never come close since. I think if we were to play 2 wingers plus Fisher and Billy Mckay up front v Killie then it will increase our chances of that happening.

I agree.

Hopefully Ryan Esson has fully recovered from his real fractured elbow. 

1 hour ago, Renegade said:

Seemingly Vigurs was on crutches (and thus obviously couldn't play) in Scott Boyd's testimonial in Dingwall last Sunday.  One would think then the chances of him being available for Saturday are minimal.

Yes, confirmed in the same Courier article.

On 22/03/2017 at 10:12 AM, CableGuy said:

Lol, gotta love how gossip starts 

Yes and then the Courier scours our website and turns it into part of the main back page article today that says he's out for 2 to 3 weeks with a knee injury. Amazing!

2 hours ago, tm4tj said:

I might be missing something here, but is anybody complaining about an atmosphere being created. It's the extra curricular activity that's not being condoned. Someone enlighten me. The young team make a noise, that's a positive. Somebody starts a fight?, that's a negative. 

Spot on. I very much welcome the singing and flag waving to help create a better atmosphere at matches. However. I deplore the alter-ego of a number of the youngsters. 

I found the verbal abuse and barging of those trying to protect a lady in an electric wheelchair from being over run by the mob near the pie stall utterly disgraceful. Those who witnessed this and complained to the police then faced more abuse from the mob for doing so. If this behaviour goes unchecked then we potentially face the regular experience of having to watch what's going on in the crowd rather than on the pitch, just like in the 1970s and 80s, and then some fans will stop going to games because of it. The spilling over of mob behaviour into the streets putting others at risk also means more policing and cost to the Club. The long term damage this could do to our reputation and the sport in general is unthinkable.

I agree with Scotty and Ronaldo - too much sniping and bickering for daring to express an opinion on the performance of the team. I wasn't the only one who came away from the game feeling as if we'd lost after the effort of some of the players. We still struggle in defence and we have a few players who just don't do enough to justify a place in the starting line up. Glad we moved off the bottom though, but amazed how we are still in touch having failed to take more than 1 point from so many games.

The support was great today but can those kids stop acting like casuals and start behaving themselves? There was no need for their antics at half time in the toilets and snack bar area, and certainly lying not along Longman Road towards the railway station after the match. About time they learned to show respect for the police and their own fans or someone is going to take away their sweeties and give them a lesson they won't forget.

Does it have to be a back 4?

I think we need to play 3 at the back plus 2 full backs capable of both going forward and defending well. Our defence has been pick-pocketed so often this season when we haven't had midfielders that provide the cover needed when other teams attack us down the flanks.

So my picks for a back 3 are Meekings (if fit - Mckay if not), Laing, McCart with Raven and Tremarco flanking them in the full/wing back positions.

Yes, the Dandies proved to be chocolate fireguards at crucial time again. Might as well give the SPL trophy to the Tic after tomorrow, regardless of the result.

4 minutes ago, snorbens_caleyman said:

I'd been watching them for a while.  A good solid team with impressive off-the-ball movement.

I take it your talking about the pigeons. Being better organised than us is not difficult.

....... but Brown, MacLennan and Wilson are still allowed to play for our Development side?

Strange that we let a 21-year-old fringe defender go on loan to Cove Rangers then bring in a 19-year-old defender from another club. Jason must wonder what he's got to do to get his career moving forward with ICT.

Strange one about Doran, particularly as he wasn't mentioned amongst the injured players. Yet, on the other hand, Fisher was on the bench last night when it was announced beforehand that he was still out but no injury mentioned. Is this just squad rotation?  

It would be interesting to know how many points we have taken this season when wearing that vanilla away top. I can't recall us winning a league game when wearing it and perhaps only gaining two draws. I know there are other more serious problems, many of which have festered since the time Hughes was in charge, but I think that top has been a bit of a jinx. No wonder there were plenty of them in the JD store before Christmas when the home top was sold out.    

I think we've been on the slide since Rice came in to replace Latapy. Richie was an inexperienced choice for manager and should have been either a coach or assistant to learn his trade.

I've been told that he lost the dressing room weeks ago and some of the players want to leave. Apparently Fisher is one in that category. 

Fail to win on Saturday and I fear we will say bye bye to the Premier League for many seasons to come.