Laurence

Teams may be doing their best to get relegated from Div one to Div two

In the hope they will play Rangers next season

On the one hand they say " New Club ", Rangers can't keep old contracts for players

On the other hand they say " Old Club ". Rangers must accept transfer ban inflicted on the old regime, because of some old draconian rule meant for new applicants to the league.

Beyond me,

They ( SFA ) then say you can't jioin if you don't accept transfer ban

Does SFA - Stand "for Sweet Fanny Adams" ?

Quote from Len Shackleton's book - Clown Prince of Soccer -

I think the ST Mirren v Celtic matches both home and away will be full of Rangers fans, turning the game into a make shift old firm match

Ever since Preston supporters rioted on the Bury ground I have not been able to stand them.. I remember some clown suporting Preston had a whisle he kept blowing it at criucial moments

The ref took the players off

The Preston lot charged onto the pitch

Celtic

Hearts

Dundee United

Motherwell

St Mirren

Kilmarnock

Aberdeen

ICT

Ross County

St Johnstone

Hibernian

Dundee

My Guesstimate

I think St. Mirren will benifit from extra support from fringe Rangers fans wanting SPL football ,

I think Partick Thisle will too in the Div 1

I suspect that a good few loyal and long time fans are losing their zeal for the club

It's a shame really, as a newcomer to the area I really tried to get involved.

I took my daughter to a game her first game in Scotland, she was very disapointed not just with the standard of play, but with the quiteness of the supporters.

The St Mirren fans sang " when the Saits" throughout the whole match, and totally drowned the home support.

On leaving the ground, a normally quiet girl said at the top of her voice "a waste of £25 ".

Anyway I have decided to buy a ticket whether I will use it , is another thing.

I have always supported the local side wherever I have lived.

Just get the fans singing.

At least they didn't pick 5th placed club as they did in England in 1919.

Extract from Wikipedia History of Arsenal

The club controversially rejoined the First Division in 1919,^[17][18] despite only finishing sixth in 1914–15, the last season of competitive football before the First World War had intervened — although an error in the calculation of goal average meant Arsenal had actually finished fifth,^[19] an error which was corrected by the Football League in 1975.^[20] The First Division was being expanded from 20 teams to 22, and the two new entrants were elected at an AGM of the Football League. One of the extra places was given to Chelsea, who had finished 19th in the First Division and thus had been already relegated. The other spot could have gone to 20th-placed Tottenham Hotspur (also relegated), or to Barnsley or Wolves, who had finished third and fourth in the Second Division respectively.

Two weeks today will be Newcos first game if indeed it is Dundee who take the step up:

Saturday 28th July @ 15:00

Ramsdens Cup

Brechin City FC v The Rangers FC

Will they have a team though?

I don't think this is the case because:

1. If New Rangers are a continuation of old Rangers then they would enter the comp in Round 4 because they finished 2nd in the SPL/

2. If they are a new club, then they are ineligible for the competition because they were not SFA members at the time of the draw and it is unlikey they will be full members of the SFA in time for the commencement of the competition.

What's the bet the Appeals Tribunal determines the penalty as suspension or explusion from the Cup. A competition they would not be eligible for anyway.

For goodness sake throw the dam rule book in the bin

Course Rangers or whatever they are called will have to be in the cup

As Douglas Bader said or similar

“Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.”

:clapping: From the heart but do we not also need to jettison specific local muppets as well !!

Totally agree. The Board seriously need to up their game, not sure if they can and I have said this on previous threads before. Too many people on the board for the wrong reasons.

Are not people on the board because they invested in the club.

Many many years ago I was told it cost at least £100,000 to join the board at Burnley.

Throwing money at football teams dosn't always work

You don't think I would part with my birds that easy do you?

One ring to rule them all and one ring to find them

In the land of ******** where the shadows lie

We are living in the Shire folks

I don;t think we should be so pessimistic

I still think there are a lot of genuine people in the game.

I know a lot of distgusting things happen, but we should not let it get us down

The media don't help boosting up situations

True we all like to see our team at the top , but hell of a lot of spectators never see that but they turn up to cheer their local teams week in week out,

In American Football they have a wage cap

That includes every body at the club, from the chief Exec down to the tea ladies

A rule very strongly enforced by league auditors

I know under EEC rules individual caping is not allowed, but total capping is. ( I think)

I have lost track of the County ground situation

I was led to believe that Victoria Park was not up to SPL standards , and they would be playing at our gaff

What is the situation?

Gears or Gers ?

" Why? Dunfermline were absolute pap last season and were deservedly relegated."

That's the very reason I want them in

Less chance of Inverness going down next year,

Thanks for that is the nonsense section afterall

My name in the Fire service was Lol , How did you know?

Keep taking the pills

You're right Charles about the contradictions, and being on my iPhone at the moment I know how to scroll quickly to the top, but not the bottom, so I'm not gonna wear out my finger looking for a source of all this (mildly interesting) guff.

However the author makes the usual mistake of confusing 'English' and 'British' all the way through. So we get occasionally accurate bits such as James VI and I, followed by 'Elizabeth I' and 'Elizabeth II' which are bollix. We also get 'Union with Scotland' (Scotland and who else I ask myself!).

If you are born in England, you think of yourself as British – Great British in fact.

If you are born in Scotland, you think of yourself as Scottish

It is know in Psychology

(as the little man syndrome )

i. e. The big guy doesn’t waste his time bragging. Or saying how good he is

You see it’s not important to him

On Monday they decide on Dundee or Dunfermline

I think it will only be fair to vote for Dunfermline

Just annouced on Sky League 3 it is

Charged me £300 didn't valet it

Told me I need a new door handle £150

And two new tyres ( before the winter) no price quoted

Hows the rain in Lancs , or have you moved back here?

I was in Liverpool last week having a tour of John Lennon's house

Very nice trip too

I am sorry if I seem to ne hogging the floor on this one

Regarding The football , When I lived in Sussex I watched The old Wimbledon at Crystal Palace, they played the most amazing football, but still the fans stayed away

When the team played Man U , they gave up most of the stadium to United. It made for a fantastic day out, and a lot of money for the club

Maybe season ticket holders could be given a free ticket to bring a friend with them to a St Mirren match or similar as an incentive to give up their seat

Something Don said above reminded me of JFK, in Berlin

Ask not what the club can do for you, But what you can do for the club,

seems to fit

makes me feel rather guilty

I have to take my car to Elgin today for its annual service the cost of which would more than buy a season ticket.

I must cogitate that one