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I cant get the game online.....WTF? :020:

I didnt want to say, but I had a feeling they wouldnt do the minutes silence for fans.

Maime, had Scotland been split in two like Ireland, maybe we would have had the same rough ride to Independance, pressuming we even got it in the first place.

Am not keen to defend anyone. Merely giving some input based on direct experience of BOTH sets of fans going back 25+ years. Both Rangers and Celtic fans sing songs that have no place in football. IMHO, one is more guilty of bringing the bigitory to games, a fact which is backed up by the amount of times in recent years they have been reprimanded for it!!

TCF...more to the point....how many FROM BOTH SIDES, know wat the history or meanings are behind the songs they are singing. Al wager 60-70% of tic fans dont know the fields of athenry is about the great irish famine. Same goes for the rangers fans and their songs

Can you show me where i said "its ok for Celtic because its traditional irish songs"? I DO NOT recall saying that at any point! I suggest you read the post closer. While we are at it, I have no problem with Traditional songs being sung, its the "add ons" I have a problem with. wheres the difference in singin the feilds of athenry and lets say..flower of scotland? Also, while your at it, I would like to know where you heard "**** martin luther he's a poof" Cant say av ever heard ANY fans.....let alone tic fans sing it. To reiterate.....i sed in my experience, Rangers fans are worse for diggin out the biggoted pish

Not from my experience maime. Dont confuse singin the "traditional" songs with the re-worded bigoted bile

The problem lies in the fact that Historically Rangers are a Protestant team and Cellic are Catholic, whose roots lay in the "Homeland" (Ulster and Eire). My understandiing is that the teams were founded by shipuilders from each denomination. I also beleive that Celtic came very close to actually being Queens Park Fc! A lot These songs are traditional songs (akin to Flower of Scotland) taken from the roots of the original teams for means of Identification. Over the years, the words have been changed to be derogotory and inflamitory. I would have to say to Maimes point, yes there ARE two sides to each story, but historically, Rangers fans are far worse for dredging up the bigoted bile at any opportunity.

Maybe get goals tomo night on the Live Dundee vs Cellic game on BBC1

Malkowski in save shock!! :blah01: :crazy07:

Shame its not 3 points tonight instead. However.....bound to add to the confidence. Not a bad crowd too considering (1717)

BREAKING NEWS............I am right and so are you RiG.........it is in the Eastgate Centre under the name of JJB Rangers. Just checked Easgate website

Am 75% sure there is a stand alone Rangers Shop in eastgate again

Isnt the Rangers Shop now beside Argos, across from where they originally were in Eastgate?

TM4TJ.....it is very possible to be hopefull AND pissed off at the same time! Dont confuse "slagging the board" with constructive critiscism, they are two very different things

I think it fair to say that probably 90% of our support didnt expect him to arrive in the first place. Doesent mean we couldnt express our hopes

Still bottom tho :019: Bloody Gretna

Gretna winning now :009:

1.1 :021: Denzil

I get a feeling it is so they can gauge how many people are going to be using the "stand" so they can adjust their stewarding etc appropriatley

I am not a big fan of Fraser. IMHO, he has looked suspect lots of times since he was installed as keeper....not sure we have anything better to replace him with tho

Dont talk wet alex............not even Ft William could get into europe without winning at least one game :blah01:

This is how i see things this season. In Games vs both the old firm, we will be lucky to maybe pick up 2-3 points over the whole season. Gretna, of the probable 4 games we will play them this season, I would be aiming for 8-10 points. The rest of the games will prob even out 50-50 over the season and we will prob take as many points from teams as we loose. I am confident we will get some wins soon.....and this season i think our aim should be too ensure we get more points than Gretna. We have had it too good since we entered SFL......and i think we are now experiencing the realities of football

I think 6 points is more likely than 10 and thats being optimistic

The new top is jinxed.....we have NEVER won a game wearing it :023: :crazy07: