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  1. I have updated the SPL-Prediction League pages with the current fixture list. There are loads of re-arranged fixtures on weird nights and the latest wrinkle is our Rangers game taking place ahead of when it was originally scheduled ... these are all now in the program and for reference to all the players, the screenshots below show - in date order - the games that are open for predictions. Open for predictions NOT Open (still to be scheduled)
  2. Will be sad to see him go if that is the final decision he makes, but good luck to him and thanks for the 46 goals he scored for ICT !
  3. no thank you..... Problem solved .... We sign Mark, the Russians give us six figures for "Rooney", and we keep Adam but send them Mark .....
  4. dont feel sorry for Elgin ... according to the BBC (and replicated in our match stats) we outshot them 21-1 ... we just couldnt score ! http://stats.caleythistleonline.com/matchdetails.php?id=596
  5. 2808 crowd ... around 1000/1200 estimated as away fans
  6. Its all to do with media rights ..... and ultimately 'money'. Audio For the SPL, each club possesses non-exclusive access to its own media and the BBC also has 'non-exclusive' rights to broadcast games in the UK. If the club have no objections, the BBC can broadcast commentary worldwide. However, if the club have their own service they can request the BBC to restrict coverage to UK IP addresses only and that is what happens with many teams (but not ICT). Anytime you get a game involving a club who has exercised their rights, the broadcast is restricted hence the little comment on many bbc pages that say uk only. For the cup, the rights are with the SFA and the BBC simply is not allowed to broadcast overseas as they paid only fo UK rights. TV None of the TV companies in Canada are interested in Scottish games .... It was on Fox Sports World (Canada) many years ago, then on Setanta from time to time in the last few years but when I asked Setanta about regular programming they simply said nope, we only really want OF. Other games may be shown as 'filler' but no regular scheduling. For normal TV - Sportsnet or The Score etc ... I know someone working there and basically, the same applies. there is no interest in Scottish football. Shame ... I can get English, Spanish, German, Italian, MLS, South American leagues all for free ... but no SPL !
  7. regards MFR - As I understand it, they negotiated rights for SPL games with the SPL ... cup games are a separate issue. The rights for cup games are held with the SFA and it is the BBC who purchased those rights for the Cup and are able to broadcast it within the UK only. In earlier rounds they tend to do openallmics from multiple grounds instead of live commentary. The only thing I find strange today is that OAM is UK only ... its not strictly commentary so it should be global coverage ... not going to complain too much though as Gaelic Radio is broadcasting worldwide.
  8. CaleyJags crawled into the 5th round draw after a 2-0 win over Elgin City. The score may look respectable but anyone looking deeper than just the scoreline will see that both goals came in injury time of the second half and that a replay seemed inevitable. In truth, there was only one team that looked like winning, but Inverness laboured over this 90 minutes and will be glad to see the back of a stubborn Elgin City who deserve all the plaudits after restricting Inverness to mostly half chances, although the longer the game went on, the more likely it looked as though the SPL side would score the winner. Chances came and went, and when Shane Sutherland saw a certain goal miraculously cleared off the line, it looked like a replay was on the cards, until super sub Dani Sanchez took control. A stunning volley when he latched onto a ball inside the eighteen yard line and a sublime lay off header for Rooney to tap in means that Butcher has another name to add to the pecking order. But for Peter Donnelly in the City goal, this tie could have been over early doors, as he made a number of crucial saves and blocks to frustrate Inverness until the late flurry of activity brought the City players to their knees. Special mention to the Elgin fans who turned up in vast numbers and certainly showed the home fans how to get behind their team. Maybe they turned up looking for the Caley Animals, but what they found was an increasingly nervous home support who were given little to enthuse over until the introduction of Sanchez. At the end of the day, Inverness are into the hat for the next round, and that's what matters on cup days. One or two cup shocks, Aberdeen scoring six was one of them. County drawing at Tannadice and St Mirren and Hibs being held on their own patch, so lets be thankful that we passed the banana skin test first time round. 8th January 2011 Tulloch Caledonian Stadium INVERNESS CALEDONIAN THISTLE 2 - Sanchez (90), Rooney (90) TEAM: Tuffey, Tokely, Munro, Innes, Shinnie, Duff, Cox, Ross, Odhiambo (Sutherland 64), Foran (Sanchez 79), Rooney SUBS: Esson, McBain, Duncan - Booked: None ELGIN CITY 0 - TEAM: Donnelly, Dempsie (Niven 58), Inglis, Kaczan, Duff, O'Donoghue, Nicolson, Crooks (Millar 89), Gunn, Cameron, Frizzel SUBS: Calder, Edwards, MacDonald - Booked: Cameron (46),Duff (61) Referee Eddie Smith Attendance 2808 Davie will be along soon with a full match report........and here it is. Elgin City. It’s a name that conjures up trepidation for more sides than ICT, but if they ever had an agenda with anyone, it’s with us. Lineups were along familiar lines for both teams, Tuffey being dusted down and brought out like the family silver. It’s Jonny, it must be the cup and it’s the first time we’ve met them in the big leagues, and since IHE and his mates stopped wrecking trains. It's just a pity Wilson's knee couldn't make the party. Watching the first half from the main stand, it was actually more fun watching the assembled hordes from Moray, piper and all and more depressing listening to the quickly grown frustration from the home fans. The first half opened with Inverness passing brightly and playing around Elgin’s half with no real penetration until 10 minutes in, when Foran brought a routine stop from Donnelly, who gathered the ball into his considerable middle. Odhiambo did likewise and a procession of effort but no real danger resulted. The pitch seemed fiery today, with the ball kicking up from the slightest of off touches, and too often people looked foolish (especially Eric Odhiambo who relies so much on a decent first touch) – seemingly it happens when you switch the heating off, the ground dries out and the surface ices. It also probably explained Foran’s falling down impressions – he and a few others were skiting around all day as the surface iced. Concentrating on Inverness, we coped easily enough with Elgin in the first half and Tuffey could have stayed bench-warming as usual. Tokely and Innes coped at the back and Grantie swept up anything that came his way. The midfield tackled well enough but the killer ball that we have missed since Hayes' demise was lacking again, the service to Rooney was sporadic and chances were thereby limited. Elgin defended stoutly enough, a free kick into the box from O’Donoghue being their only limited chance. Majority of possession then, absolute monopoly on chances and containment of any threat. Butcher’s game plan only lacked the cutting edge to score in that first half and that was the cue for some frustration from the home fans. Elgin’s seemed content on enjoying their day out and providing a colourful backdrop to most of the action. Half Time: Inverness CT 0 Elgin City 0 The second half opened with a touch more purpose and drive from both sides. Elgin may have felt that they absolutely needed to score first; ICT probably felt that they just needed to score. Cameron at least got motivated enough to foul Shinnie on his way past and earn a slightly harsh yellow. Thereafter, the game became a bit Peter Donnelly vs. ICT. He had saves from Odhiambo and Foran and an excellent stop from Rooney followed by another excellent stop in 60 minutes from the shortly to be hooked Eric. It was beginning to look like it might be one of those days, but Shane Sutherland replaced Eric to bring a bit of bustling urgency to proceedings. His strength on the ball was in marked contrast to said Eric, who is all about pace, but with a lack of the guile that would make him a real handful. In 65 minutes, Frizzel had what was Elgin’s golden chance. Crooks cut in past a couple of challenges, bringing a block from Tuffey. Frizzel fired the rebound into the side netting and that had the ICT faithful’s hearts in their mouths – it really was time to do something about the situation, and Butcher responded by taking off a slightly disgruntled looking Foran and replacing him with Sanchez. Another smart save from Sutherland followed, and it quickly became apparent that ICT had found the creativity that they had lacked for the majority of the game. Just when a couple of pints in the Thunderton were being contemplated, Sanchez latched on to a bouncing ball in the area and buried a lovely volley past Donnelly. Thank you and goodnight. A minute later, he headed a Nick Ross cross into the path of Rooney to put the gloss on it. There was barely time left to take the kick off Full Time: Inverness CT 2 Elgin City 0 A hard fought win this, and perhaps a little too hard for some tastes who felt that we should have converted dominance into goals sooner than we did. However, this weekend’s results have shown that the “smaller” teams have given a real account of themselves in many cases. It was interesting to hear Gordon Strachan say that he never watched smaller teams before they played Celtic, because the same 11 would fire in an adrenaline fuelled performance that bore no resemblance to the rest of their year. Elgin did that, and so did their fans on their big day out. Well done, but ICT go into the hat for the next round. Who’s next?
  9. According to OAM .... Jonny Tuffey in goals today.
  10. the Open All Mics link seems to be UK only today (strange) ..... but if you open a direct link to Radio Nan Gaidheal it seems to be playing ... not sure if it will still play during the game, but it is right now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/rng.asx
  11. <table width="80%" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tr> <td> <table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#003300"> <tr> <td width="55" scope="col"><div align="left"><img src="http://caleythistleonline.com/media/images/misc/ball_icon.png"'>http://caleythistleonline.com/media/images/misc/ball_icon.png" alt="ball" longdesc="ball icon"></div></td> <td bgcolor="#003300"><div style="background-color:#003300;" align="center"> <h2><font color="#FFFF00" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">THE MATCHDAY THREAD</font></h2> <h5><font color="#FFFF00" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Discuss ICT & other games in this thread as they happen </font></h5> </div></td> <td width="55" scope="col"><div align="right"><img src="http://caleythistleonline.com/media/images/misc/ball_icon.png"'>http://caleythistleonline.com/media/images/misc/ball_icon.png" alt="ball" longdesc="ball icon"></div></td> </tr> </table> <table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="5" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"> <tr> <td width="100" rowspan="3"><div align="left"><img src="http://community.caleythistleonline.com/public/added_images/club_crests/inverness.png" alt="team logo" width="120" height="120" longdesc="team logo"></div></td> <td><div align="center"> <h2><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Inverness CT -V- Elgin City</font></h2> </div></td> <td width="100" rowspan="3"><div align="right"><img src="http://community.caleythistleonline.com/public/added_images/club_crests/elgincity.png" alt="team logo" width="120" height="120" longdesc="team logo"></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td><div align="center"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="3273-inverness-ct-v-elgin-city-preview" target="_blank">PREVIEW</a></font></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td><div align="center"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><stadium> Saturday January 8th 2011 @ 3:00 PM<br> Tulloch Caledonian Stadium<br> </font></div></td> </tr> </table> <table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="5" bgcolor="#99cc99"> <tr> <th width="33%" scope="col"><div align="center"><img src="http://www.caleythistleonline.com/media/images/misc/twitter-icon.jpg" alt="twitter icon" width="50" height="50" longdesc="twitter icon"> <br> Follow us on <a href="http://twitter.com/ICTOnline" target="_blank">Twitter</a></div></th> <th scope="col"><div align="center"><img src="http://www.caleythistleonline.com/media/images/misc/facebook-icon.png" alt="facebook icon" width="50" height="50" longdesc="twitter icon"><br> Follow us on <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/CaleyThistleOnline/122778317770191" target="_blank">Facebook</a> </div></th> <th width="33%" scope="col"><div align="center"><img src="http://www.caleythistleonline.com/media/images/misc/chat-icon.jpg" alt="chat" width="50" height="50" longdesc="chat"><br> Go to the <a href="http://community.caleythistleonline.com/index.php?app=ipchat" target="_blank">Chatroom</a><br> </div></th> </tr> </table> <table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr bgcolor="#0000CC"> <td width="51" scope="col"><div align="left"><img src="http://caleythistleonline.com/media/images/misc/ie8-logo.png" alt="ie" width="50" height="50" longdesc="ie"></div></td> <td width="601" scope="col"><div align="center"> <h2><font color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>Media Coverage</strong></font></h2> </div></td> <td width="51" scope="col"><div align="right"><img src="http://caleythistleonline.com/media/images/misc/firefox-logo.png" alt="ff" width="50" height="50" longdesc="ff"></div></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#F2F2F2"> <td width="51" align="center" valign="top"><div align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong> AUDIO</strong></font></div></td> <td colspan="2"><ul> <li><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/scotland/6407137.stm" target="_blank">BBC "Open All Mics"</a> Live discussion and Goal flashes [<font color="#FF0000"><em>UK Only</em></font>]<br> <br> </li> </ul></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#C0C0C0"> <td width="51" align="center" valign="top"><div align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong> TEXT</strong></font></div></td> <td colspan="2"><ul> <li><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/scot_prem/live_scores/default.stm" target="_blank">BBC</a></li> <li><a href="http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/MatchCommentary.aspx/Inverness" target="_blank">P&J</a></li> <li><a href="http://live.skysports.com/ScoreCentre/live.html" target="_blank">SKY</a></li> <li><a href="http://www.sportbox.tv/football/live/" target="_blank">SportBox</a> <br> <br> </li> </ul></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#E9E9E9"> <td align="center" valign="top"><div align="left"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong> VIDEO</strong></font></div></td> <td colspan="2"><ul> <li><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/default.stm" target="_blank">BBC Match Highlights</a> (online) - 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  12. If its open all mics, rather than live commentary it should be available globally. Only live commentary of certain SPL games and all Cup games is blocked for overseas listeners
  13. Given that it now has 1800+ signatures I would say so ......
  14. each to their own ..... no one fan is better than any other just because they do an away trip .... this kind of one-upmanship is naive in the extreme. some fans cant afford it, some fans have to try and fit work schedules around games, some fans simply dont have the time, some of the away fans are actually closer to home at an away game than they are at a home game ..... whatever the reasons, and they are numerous, we are all pretty damn good because we all support ICT !!!! And what about our overseas fans? Is there a hierarchy there too ? Is Gabby a good supporter because he stays up into the early hours in Australia to listen to or watch a game on radio/TV ? Is Scarlet a better supporter than me because he gets up at 7AM Vancouver time to listen to a 3PM kick off and I only get up at 10AM Toronto time ? What about our fans in Egypt, Japan, Africa, or our supporters in the forces who have listened in from the middle east or the Falklands? Many of us dont make it to a game regardless of whether it is home or away but you can be damn sure we make time to show our support in our own ways.
  15. Until this discussion, I have never been a big fan of some of the administrative procedures in play in MLS .... but the more I read, and the more I get involved in this discussion, the more I realise that MLS may just be onto something ..... MLS try to create a somewhat level playing field by using the college drafts in the same way as the NBA or NFL (something that would never work in the UK), but also have the designated player rule and "allocation money" rules that allow teams to sign the odd superstar outside of the salary cap and if - in the case of New York for example - they want to sign multiple designated players, to pay a "luxury tax" that gets ploughed back into the league and distributed to poorer teams .... As much as I dont like citing Wikipedia as it can be grossly wrong, the following pages seem reasonably accurate in terms of the philosophy and rules within MLS. Read the 'ownership' and 'game first' sections of this Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer How the league can control finances, distribute money but still allow teams to make a bid for superstars if they want to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_Player_Rule How the league tries to even up the playing field a bit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allocation_(MLS) How the league fosters and develops talent (along with requiring each team to have a youth academy): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Adidas
  16. moving this back to the main forum as I have it from a trusty source that this story will feature in the Courier on Friday and elsewhere as well ...... more details will emerge thre I am sure.
  17. but thats my point ..... we should not be thinking for "at the moment" we should be thinking how we can develop it long term. Ultimately, other than the actual league structure, one of the biggest problems I see is the fact that we have so many layers of bureacracy. We should have one governing body not 3 (more if you include all the other amateur, welfare or junior associations). we should not have a situation where one entity runs the top league, another runs the three leagues below that and a third supposedly oversees it all and runs the national cup competition ... thats ludicrous. slim down the bureacracy, have one governing body and if necessary have committees or working groups below that to run the leagues and cups. Have another working group or committee to look after youth and community development and a further one to look at sponsorship and revenues but all under one umbrella organisation. Make the focus on sustaining the current teams, fostering development, and maximising revenues for the league as a whole not just the chosen few. If that means teams must pay a fee to the league which gets ploughed into development or making sure there is not such a huge gulf between payments in each league then so be it .... If a team dropped 10s of thousands in guaranteed league revenue when they dropped from the SPL to SPL2 (or SFL1 or whatever) rather than losing hundreds of thousands then having a league of 10 might then be a realistic possibility as relegation is then a setback rather than something that could actually kill your club.
  18. Thinking more about what I said above, I realised that this has practical examples from North America The NASL (North American Soccer League) is a perfect example. It was formed in 1968 after a merger between the FIFA sanctioned "US Soccer Association" and the unsanctioned "National Professional Soccer League". It grew slowly but surely until around 1975 and was slowly developing home grown talent but around that time the New York Cosmos caused it to boom exponentially by signing Pele and Beckenbauer. Other big (but fading) names followed ... Alan Ball, Gordon Banks, Peter Beardsley, George Best, Johann Cruyff, Peter Bonetti, Alan Brazil, Willie Donachie, Eusebio, Trevor Francis, Archie Gemmill, Jonny Giles, Bruce Grobelaar, Jim Holton, Geoff Hurst, Wim Jansen, Willie Johnstone, Peter Lorimer, Rodney Marsh, Bobby Moore, Gerd Muller, Johan Neeskens, Jimmy Nicholl, Phil Parkes, Bruce Rioch, Hugo Sanchez, Graeme Souness .... to name but a lot !!!! It is thought that in many circles this short-term boom, coupled with FIFA's award of the World Cup to Mexico instead of the USA in 1986, and their insistence on removal of some of the 'Americanized' rules in use caused the league to eventually burn itself out. Cosmos were pulling in crowds of 80,000 but behind the scenes there were little or no controls in place and less and less development as young American players were pushed out in favour of ageing 'names' looking for a final pay packet. Major League Soccer was founded in 1993 as part of the agreement reached for the USA to host the World Cup in 1994. It started with 10 teams and this season, which kicks off in March there will be 18 teams (16 x USA teams, 2 x Canada). Much of the focus of MLS is the development of young players. Every new team coming in has to establish an academy and after an initial couple of seasons where there were a few 'fading' superstars from other countries - much like the NASL - the league shifted its philosophy and focused the development on North American talent in preference to imports. This philosophy has been credited as part of the reason for the USA's better than expected performance in the 2002 World Cup (reaching the QFs) and for the general resurgence in the US national team. With two Canadian teams now in MLS and a third due to join in the next year or two, I personally predict Canada will also experience this bounce as new young talent comes through [TFC signed two youngsters from their own academy last year and blooded another 3 or 4 in other games during the season]. while it is true to say that MLS allows teams to import some players they do put restrictions on it .... David Beckham and Thierry Henry are probably the best known imports right now but their teams cannot just go out and sign a team full of superstars like the old NASL, they must have so many young players in their overall squad, so many domestic players and such like. MLS is also now becoming an exporter of players ... Obvious names are Maurice Edu at Rangers who was the MLS 'rookie of the year' in 2007 and Andy Dorman who went to St Mirren a couple of seasons ago but there are loads of others dotted around leagues in Europe and South America and even some older heads like Freddie Ljunberg, Dwayne DeRosario, Landon Donovan and others are looking to head from MLS to Europe either on a permanent basis or on loan deals until the season restarts. The league lost money from its creation up until last year but it is now heading into profit and continues to grow slowly but surely with plans to further expand in coming years ..... This is a league that is growing and which has fairly dynamic management. We may not want to use some of their policies or procedures, but the overall philosophy of development from within is rock solid !!!
  19. You are kidding yourself on both points. For one thing, Scottish football doesnt appeal to that wide an audience and changing the setup will not change that outside of maybe having an extra old firm game on TV outside the UK each year. and as for competitive ... a little look at who has finished first and second for the last few years will answer that one. To appeal to a wider audience, Scottish football needs to become more attractive. It can do that a couple of ways ... go the money route and fill a few elite teams in a smaller league with superstars from other countries because we have few if any of our own at this time. This kind of short-sightedness may make the game more interesting for a short while but it stifles development outside the elite. Smaller teams cannot make the leap to the big time and homegrown players are neither as valued nor as 'cosmopolitan' as having some mysterious foreigner in your team .... In this sort of scenario teams like ICT could NEVER aspire to reaching the SPL and players like Graeme Shinnie or Nick Ross or even incomers like Jonny Hayes or Adam Rooney would have far fewer opportunities to come in and stake places in a team that would always be looking over its shoulder at relegation should it have the audacity to try and compete with the big boys !!! The other alternative is to rebuild it from the ground up. reward teams for developing players, put structure in place that allows teams to develop players, and encourage it. It may take a longer time to become attractive but once you have good players coming through the excitement builds, the costs become more bearable and ultimately teams have assets (players) they can sell/export which allows them to continue their own development. We turn the current downward spiral upside down and hopefully begin an upward trajectory. If we were to become a net exporter of players over the next few years that also heightens awareness and interest from other areas of the globe .... didnt we all take a little bit more interest in Romania for example when Marius was here ... or in Canada when Hastings/Xausa were at the club? I know I have a look at things in other countries when TFC sign a player from South America or from Europe .... and right now, I am reading up on "total football" now that it has been leaked that the new TFC manager is likely to be Aron Winter from Ajax. It all raises profile, interest and potentially makes the Scottish structure more appealing but it has to start somewhere and I would humbly suggest that is at the same place where ICT started .... at the bottom ! I dont profess to know the best structure, but I know that a top league of 10 is not it. I would however dispute the fact that we dont have enough 'good teams' .... Was last season not extremely enjoyable in a league of 10 teams that are supposedly inferior to what we are now ? Do the Dunfermlines, Dundees and even Ross Countys of this world not merit some interest? the first two have been in the top flight (as have many others in the lower leagues) and County reached a national final last season as did smaller teams in most of the last few seasons ..... I would make a counter-point to this argument and say that its not that we do not have enough good teams, its that we have two too many teams that because of the current slicing and dicing of finances, sponsorship and TV money have been allowed to grow further and faster than the rest. This is not a serious suggestion - as it would never happen - but how about 2 leagues of 20 with each team playing each other once at home and away each season and a SuperDuper Elite Premier League where the other two play each other every week for the TV companies !!!!
  20. The aim - as far as I can see - is to line the pockets of 10 teams, especially two of them, and further widen the gap between them and the other 32 clubs. Its nothing to do with improving, repairing, or revitalising the game in Scotland and everything to do with money. They seem to be under the mistaken belief that the extra money they would get by splitting the pie 10 ways instead of 12 or 16 ways will allow them to compete in a global market for players and in European competition.... and that is absolute folly as the collective money on offer for the entire league in Scotland would be regarded as loose change for some individual teams in other leagues !!!! Scottish Football needs sorted and it needs sorted from the ground up not by those at the trough throwing scraps to the riff raff down below and telling them its prime steak !!! If we can develop football and encourage homegrown talent then teams at all levels can reap the benefits.
  21. A discussion on a potential structure was put to the SPL AGM in 2006. The document was the result of several strategy meeting that took place between 2003 and 2006 and basically saw the league setup as follows: Setup 12 + 10 (SPL1 & SPL2) moving to 10 + 12 Invitation issued from SPL to 10 teams in SFL to make up the numbers. No promotion for 2 years but 1 team relegated to move from 12+10 to 10+12 SPL2 criteria - All seated stadia, minimum 3000 capacity, Pitch Protection (not necessarily heated). 1 year grace period to bring stadiums up to scratch at start of new structure. Once 10 team SPL established and 12 team SPL2 established, clubs in each league play each other twice home and away each season so 36 games in SPL1 and 44 in SPL2. Possible additional cup competition for 22 teams in SPL1/SPL2 Regional structure below SPL2 Automatic 1 up 1 down promotion/relegation between SPL2 and regional league Playoffs between 2nd bottom in SPL2 and 2nd placed team in regional league Pyramid structure below regional leagues allowing for progression based on merit The rough figures worked out at the time showed an expected revenue in SPL2 of about ?1.6m from sponsorship, broadcasting rights, betting and cup competitions and a projected running cost of a bit over ?300K leaving a prize pool of about ?1.2m rising over time to about ?2m. (The equivalent projected prize pool for SPL1 was ?15.5m rising to ?16m). The split of the money in SPL2 was to be fairly similar to current SPL model with the top two teams taking the lions share (17% / 15%) and then the 3rd team taking 9.5% with the share dropping by ? a percentage point each place after that. Based on that model, the top team in SPL2 would receive around ?325,000 and the bottom team around ?86K. Parachute payment (from SPL1 to SPL2) was projected to be ?250K. By comparison, the top team in SPL1 would get around ?2m and the bottom team around ?535K in a 12 team setup rising to ?3m and just under ?1m in a 10 team setup. Obviously things have moved on since 2006 ... we have seen movement in terms of sponsorship, the Setanta collapse, and probably other things so the financial numbers are probably wrong now but it seems the current suggestion still has its roots in this model ......... and as far as I can tell from reading and re-reading it, the #1 priority is maximising the money side of things rather than actually developing the game and revitalising it from the grass roots upwards.
  22. suggesting 10 teams as the solution when the customer base they want to attract and retain is hugely against it tells you all you need to know ... its not about the game, its about the money. end of story. You can have review after review after review but until there is one that is customer focused and is designed to develop the game and embrace the customers who pay to watch it, its only going to get worse. I like the suggestion in post 1, its pretty thorough and I can see several ways in which it might actually have huge long term benefits not only for Scottish football as a whole but also the national team and every other team in the league structure. I would also look to MLS on this side of the pond ... not for the salary cap or various strange rules about how many of certain 'types' or designations of players you may have in your squad, or even the draft system .... none of that could be transplanted successfully in its current format into another league as far as I am concerned. However where they do get things right is in stipulating that every new team in MLS must - as part of their conditions of entry - setup a youth academy to promote the game and bring on the youngsters. Toronto FC already signed two of their youths to contracts last season and had another two or three playing in friendlies or in CONCACAF games and that is after only 3 years of it up and running properly .... The club, the league, and ultimately the US and Canadian national teams are going to benefit from this in the long run as more an more homegrown players come through ... I know we cant expect every team in Scotland to have a youth academy but if you take the regional youth league idea from the first post, add in some of the money from later in that post then Scottish Football might just save itself from within .... and to those that gave Kirishima negative points for his post (I gave you a green dot btw) ... I would ask you ... what is YOUR solution ?
  23. Scotty replied to Scotty's topic in Caley Thistle
    Oh dear, what a shame ....... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/3329231/The-Only-Way-Is-off-to-the-nick.html
  24. If that turns out to be true then IMO theres a hell of alot wrong with the team. I would agree with Clacher ..... If we are so one-dimensional that we can only perform with Jonny in the team then we are in trouble because that means others cannot or will not step up and start to perform without him and that attitude, if it exists, is BS. Equally worrying is that opposition sides will/already know that if we continue to perform this way, all they have to do to make us innefectual is to close him down. A few folk need to up their game to a level we know they can already perform at .... stop leaving it all to Jonny and start working harder. Ryan Esson is excluded from this rant as he is already working harder than we would like him to have to !!!

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