starchief

Nonsense. Everyone negative (such as myself) would loved to have Hughes to succeed. But it hasn't and his background suggests nothing better. It's either accept that or want a change before the damage is permanent. But it's not the start of the season. How has Yogi done since he came in? We wouldn't be in the top six based on those results. His record also suggests that we will struggle next season too. This is on the basis of keeping our current squad - you know, the one we were desperate to re-sign as they got us to second. Next year, I expect a struggle with relegation, purely down to tactics. Not the squad's ability. Why did we hire a manager then if he has no effect on the team? If it's some natural up and down, then save the salary. The fact is, manager are supposed to improve the team. Otherwise, it's pointless having one.

Hughes didn't get us into the top six.

The question now is: 6th or 5th place?

Kingsmills: why not in the sack Hughes camp then?

I don't know either. Is it too late to get hislopoffsideagain as manager? Seems to know a bit more about the way ICT should play than the current numptie.

Me? No way! Yer grandmother puts boiled sweets up dogs' bottoms and feeds them to children. I do. Thanks Terry. Pity you left us and it's all going wrong, where we are likely to end up in a worse position than last year. Given that Hughes came in and we were competing for Europe, I fear now, we are competing to avoid sixth. And yet, since the new manager we've gone from a team that does win to one that doesn't. A team that can score to one that can't. The only difference between the two is tactics. Not sure why you think I'd disagree there. For the record, I don't. I thought he was hired as he wouldn't change anything? How about this: what were you happier with? (a) A rapid counter-attacking system that suited the players so much, we were a clear second with games in hand and in both cups? (b) A system where the central defenders play a passing game they are not suited to and a congested midfield with no quick release in an attempt to be open and expansive that has seen us win one home game (a replay against Stranraer) and plummet down the table. It's a tough one isn't it?

Yeah, but we were drawing before the red card. Not winning. And then seemed to become more dangerous AFTER the red card, according to reports.

I suspect Yogi will go for Tansey in central defence, so he can pass the ball around, as that's what is really needed in a centre half. We need to attack down the wings, so Draper and Warren are the most natural there. I doubt we will have anyone in central midfield this time as we spend so much time tip-tapping around the defence that the result is either a backpass or a big punt up, so no need for anyone in front of the new Puyol and Beckenbauer. McKay up front.

Still one point above St Johnstone. I firmly believe we can hang on to top 5. BELIEVE!

Fixed that for you.

So basically, Yogi wants all the players to play football, passing it here and there. Even defenders. Ermmm, can anyone remember when John Hughes was a player? I thought he was terrific. But NOT due to his passing ability. Far from it. He was an all-action Warren kind of player. Couldn't pass to save his life. And it's not working for ICT. Yogi wants players to express themselves and play with a smile on their face. We've been playing pretty well since he came here. And yet, we've been woeful. Butcher wants to win. He doesn't care about smiles-on-faces. I thought Yogi was chosen because he was the same as Butcher? This isn't a boys club. It's professional football.

Kilmarnock asked Jimmy to stay but he turned it down. With his record, I'd have him in a shot. Mahonio: I wish you wouldn't be so easily swayed. It's fine for someone to argue against you. That's just their opinion. If it's a good one, sure, change yours. But it's also okay to keep your own and disagree. There's no personal attack in disagreeing with an opinion.

I'd prefer Hughes to go as soon as, as I think he will drag us down to level we will struggle to get back from. It's not just disastrous form here but also his previous. However, I don't expect him to get sacked. Not now. Not at the end of the year. Not Oct/Nov. Probably not even Xmas, unless we are marooned at the bottom. Out board are loyal to a fault. I fully expect to be sitting here next year, with an ICT far out of the top six, struggling against relegation, with Yogi still esconsed in his job, despite having the same players that had us at 2nd. I desperately hope I'm wrong. Way more than any desire to be smug, nodding my head. Nice guy though he is, everything screams to me, this is how it was at Hibs. Good squad without being able to get the best out of them and a bad run of results that he seems to have no answer for, nor any desire to vary the team when it's not working.

Yeah. It'll give Yogi a chance to get us promoted back into the SPL.

YES!

And yet, anyone who criticizes Hughes is 'an idiot'.

now, now. Don't exaggerate. Nothing's more tedious than that.

Does Tansey have the guile and energy for the attacking mid role? A good shot on him but I see him as one of the defensive midfielders primarily.

Yeah but we can still take the proverbial.

I don't think anyone is in the: "Those who didn't want Hughes at any price and wanted him sacked regardless of what he may achieve" category. If so, who?

I won't pick out an individual team as it depends who we're playing / injuries and the rest. What I would say is it's 2 from Draper, Foran and Tansey in a 4-2-3-1. Vincent could be the link man but he's not recovered from injury yet. I'd really like to see Marley in there. Think he could be a relevation, causing a host of problems and a few goals. We should use subs more wisely. Just imagine, say, Ross and Doran on for 60 mins, then we bring on Greenhalgh and Willams 10 mins apart. That would rip apart the tired defenders. Good quick breaking players, happy to get more of a run out.

So basically, we had: Hibs want to sign high-flying ICT manager Butcher heads to talks Despite being ICTs manager, he sits with the Hibs board Butcher signs for Hibs as he can achieve his ambitions there Hibs don't seem to realise Butcher started with a relegation at ICT and near-relegation with 'Well Results don't go as well as planned Hibs fans show their usual support Now all we need is relegation and we're back full circle

He's following the ICT model. Get relegated. Bounce back up. Spend a season establishing themselves. Begin to improve. Get somewhere, then leave. 'm sure the Hibs management and supporters are fine with that

So on the basis of a single game, you have decided Hughes should not be sacked. So next week, if we lose, it will be back to 'sack Hughes'? Hope you're never my boss. It'd be like getting stuck in a revolving door.

Fail to make the top six? Hibs are breaking a leg to get ino the relegation play-off spot.