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Ironically, the fans player of the month, best out of a bad bunch

I think pathetic sums up that performance and that might even be an understatement. Again with this comment people will argue but for me personally, Butcher is NOT the man for the job.

4-3 Pars. Even though they're losing they at least still sound as if they're fighting, where as we sound like we can't be ersed! They've got more to fight for or we're just not very good at all and lucky for them?

And if we can't manage that we could always follow the example of the FC Magdeburg fans who felt the need to show their misfiring forwards where the goal is! Brilliant!! Can we get bigger arrows?!

What has happened to Tom Aldred anyway? Is he injured? Went in a huff and packed his bags because TB realised he had got a stinker of a player.

http://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/Sport/Football/Tansey-knows-ICT-players-can-give-more.htm Greg Tansey giving me reason to believe that this ICT squad will be ok... "Perhaps it was complacency, I don’t know, but we looked a bit nervous when we went 1-0 up," he said. "We’ve gifted them three goals really. "I think there was definitely a lack of composure. "It just seemed like we were a bit nervy and even though we still had chances, we still weren’t ruthless enough. "We have dominated the game, yet we’ve come out if it with nothing." This actually scares me a little if they can't put their finger on why the ar*e fell out of them a 1-0 up!

Great post, it's nice to see an analytical argument rather than reactive which I myself have been guilty of sometimes. To me I see Butcher as exactly that, a butcher of a good ICT squad. No doubt there is talent in there but his use of tactics and man management have often been deplorable. As for injuries, I often wonder if this has something to do with training as we all remember Brewsters extra work training sometimes hindered progress due to players becoming more susceptible to injuries as a result of it. I can't see what he see's in McKay and Tade as he claims to not like the long ball game but week after week it becomes exactly that game for us. Once you cross that white line yes it's in the players hands, but 15 minutes in the middle is precisely the time where you should be drilling it into them it is not acceptable. These are two 'strikers' who can barely strike a bar door. But the midfield are to blame also as if there is no service to the front two then they can't do their job, so why are the midfield looked at as to be pretty good? They are also responsible for taking the pressure off the back four, it's a tough job, and they are not doing it. We have Foran who spends more time screaming than passing, and Tansey who would be better off kicking in rugby. The posts are a lot higher for him to aim at. I cannot defend Tansey at all. Favouritism has crept into this squad horribly this season for these four players mentioned and that is Butchers fault. And the back four comes down to The Munro equation. ICT - Munro = a poor poor excuse for a defensive team. Butcher was a defender by trade but seems to have forgotten everything about it. There is a huge huge huge part of this season that has come down to Dunfermline and a season spent looking over our shoulders to see how they are doing. Also Butchers talk of top 6. It's a bad bad way to spend a season. Right now if we survive then Butcher has to take a look at HIMSELF as well as the team and additions to that team. If nothing by the start of the season and into December has been done then I'm afraid he's for the chop (way!)

Being very wee and heading to Telford Street on a cold winters afternoon and getting to play on the pitch at half time with other kids, hooked for life after that! Don't miss that bloody wall that was the 'toilet' though!

From reading a couple of sources of the post match interview with TB I still feel upset that he never mentions the strikers lack of prowess at all. With disregard to the 'long ball game' he apparently does not ask them to play (someones clearly not listening then) they are doing nothing up front to warrant selection! I don't know if it's because TB is a former defender and that's what he concentrates on? And if so badly! But something needs to be done in our attacking line ups. This is a ridiculous oversight and I would love to see some stats if anyone can get their hands on some, on just how many shots on goal and/or chances on goal that we have had this season compared to goals scored. Without checking I know that the former will be ridiculously high in comparison to the latter, and yes all teams can produce chances and not score but this current ICT squad are really taking it to new heights. Can we do a Levein and play a 5-5 or 6-4 please? At least we may have more chance of not conceding goals as we're not scoring that many right now.

or Tuffey - great back up to esson one of the best no 2's in the league Foran - gave us 2 very good seasons up front with rooney was key in our promotion push Cox - Arguably a match for Black, no complaints there Gillet - mr composure Golobart - shakey start but has proved to be a great young centre half Tansey - mr consistent week in week out still young can only improve Tade - a threat no matter what Dorans - had a sinsilating 6 month loan has another year to comback and perhaps replace hayes Meekings - 19 years old can only improve had a great start A.Shinnie - Great player who took a while to find his stride but injured unfortunately Davis - a man with so much ability proven by the fact hes playing premiership and was brilliant for us and out of the players hes brought through gavin morrisons the only player that hasnt played 30+ games Tade - A threat... to all Caley fans sanity Tansey?! Are you serious??? I cannot for the life of me see how he is a good player! And just to add Gnapka and Winnall. TB brought them in, why not play them? Because he knows he's made mistakes?

or Tuffey - great back up to esson one of the best no 2's in the league Foran - gave us 2 very good seasons up front with rooney was key in our promotion push Cox - Arguably a match for Black, no complaints there Gillet - mr composure Golobart - shakey start but has proved to be a great young centre half Tansey - mr consistent week in week out still young can only improve Tade - a threat no matter what Dorans - had a sinsilating 6 month loan has another year to comback and perhaps replace hayes Meekings - 19 years old can only improve had a great start A.Shinnie - Great player who took a while to find his stride but injured unfortunately Davis - a man with so much ability proven by the fact hes playing premiership and was brilliant for us and out of the players hes brought through gavin morrisons the only player that hasnt played 30+ games Tade - A threat... to all Caley fans sanity Tansey?! Are you serious??? I cannot for the life of me see how he is a good player!

id say tuffey foran cox gillet golobart tansey tade dorans meekings A.shinnie tade and davis have all been good signings. its not just about signings hes brought shane, ross, shinnie and morrison all through from the youth set up. Tuffey - Esson keeping out of the team and rightly so but when he gets his chance has been a bit dodgy, lack of match games obviously in that but also he's a very expensive commodity Foran - Not in his glory days at all yet still played week in week out, in wrong positions and because of TB who you would think if he brought him in would know what was best Cox - Arguably a match for Black, no complaints there Gillet - Dodgy at the best of times Golobart - Scored the best own goal ever and has inconsistency written all over him Tansey - IMO one of the worst players we've ever signed Tade - Headless chicken and if you compare how many goals he's scored to how many guilt edged chances he's missed then it adds up to a poor player Dorans - Injured Meekings - Liability A.Shinnie - Great player who took a while to find his stride but injured unfortunately Davis - No interest in playing FOR us (e.g. the mentality and history of the club but then again why should he) and poor a lot of the time Younger players - yes he has brought them in....to sit on the bench or get 5-10 mins a game or the rare ineffective start Poor signing, sorry LOAN, players I think

I'm sorry to have a go at you again mate and it really isn't personal as I don't know you but sometimes I do get the impression you watch a different game. Play well + still losing = awful problems on and off the pitch.

Accurate maybe, but necessary to slag of individual mistakes? I guess BBC might have a word limit or time limit to their interviews but he could have at least mentioned the rest of the team. And if it really does encapsulate the season, then he has to admit his mistakes there as well.

Sorry, my point being, why just blame the defense? And NOT surprisingly he didn't mention Tade etc. I typed out posted so quickly out of rage there!

Inverness Caledonian Thistle manager Terry Butcher : "That 90 minutes just encapsulated our season. "In some parts, we were very good, but in other parts of the game we were absolute rubbish. "We gave away a soft goal at the first because Ross Tokely was not marking his man. Kenny Gillet was then at fault for the second goal and Josh Meekings the third. "In the second half, we had the back-four from hell." Worst post match interview ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can he blame his 787869774769308757th back four when he changes the back four 75629573205757603728568569 times?!?! There was never enough injuries in the season to warrant as many changes as he did to the back four! Blame game again from Butcher and surprisingly no mention of Tade, Tansey, Foran, McKay, ad any other player. Obviously this is a snapshot from the BBC but if this is the crux of the interview then we need to get shot of this man! What a poor poor poor excuse.

How can you say it was the right team and then say McKay scoring 1 goal all season, and Tade the ever brilliant master of one on one mess ups? Surely they should have been dropped? Also Tansey (woop dee doo he scored a penalty), Foran? Meekings? All of them should never be allowed to play after week after week of poor performances. who would you have played? tansey imo was decent today and didn't think meekings was any worse than the other 3 defenders in the 2nd half. ideally, i would like to see winnall up front but the team created numerous chances - more than enough to win the game. Gillet, WInnall, Jones, Pineyar, Morrison? And I am sick to death of people saying we created chances but couldn't convert as if it is an achievement! Like a PS3 game and you get a trophy for 'Most chances amassed'. Today 2 chances out of many were converted and Hibs 3 out of 3. I think the maths makes sense there.

I kind of agree with you, but wonder if your opinions come from viewing the games in person or jumping on other people's bandwagons? You always seem to say you cant make it to games but also say its the worst football you have witnessed. As a matter of interest, how many times do you witness it in person at the stadium in an average season? I think SMEE always watches the games on tv so if there has been about 10 games this season then IMO thats enough to judge on how the team is performing over a season. Unfortunately in football, it's a result business, and you don't need to be at all the games where we've lost to see that somethings wrong. And that's a lot of games!

How can you say it was the right team and then say McKay scoring 1 goal all season, and Tade the ever brilliant master of one on one mess ups? Surely they should have been dropped? Also Tansey (woop dee doo he scored a penalty), Foran? Meekings? All of them should never be allowed to play after week after week of poor performances.

And i agree wholeheartedly. I dare say i will be singled out and attacked for that, as i often seem to be anytime i inject a large dose of reality. I think maybe my cute little avatar makes me an easy target. Totally agree with this. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee, I hate the term 'happy clappers' as it's good to see the bright side of things, but right now we have no bright side at all. I have no opinions at all as to who could take over which some I think will take this as a redundant statement but BUTCHER NEEDS TO GO! He has and has done for most of THIS season made wrong choice after wrong choice, claiming after each loss he'll make changes and the 'boys are ready for the next game' but has left each time empty handed. I never saw the game today but spoke to my old man who said a penalty (yes a long time coming) and a cross/shot that totally confused the keeper was the only things of worth. Tade and McKay guilty again of one on one disparity and a lacklustre midfield followed by amateur defending cost us the game. Hibs had 3 CHANCES and took those, not 3 shots, 3 chances. Hopeless. Again as always said, thank god for Dunfermline.

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M My sentiments exactly. It wasn't a penalty and Stokes is renound for diving, yellow card deserved. And if it was given who's to say they would have scored? Who's to say they would win the Scottish cup? Ungracious and callous, that is Mr Lennon for you. Well done Killie!!! Could not be happier for them! And also it is horrible to hear that Liam Kellys dad suffered a heart attack at the end, thoughts go to him and his family at this time.

We had 17 shot to killies 3 and were by far the better side the only thing we lacked was a ruthless streak as butcher pointed out in his interview we've played much worse than that and won How many of those shots were on target or came anywhere near being goals? Killie were nothing special either and really should've been there for the taking. No different than the team that played rangers? Yeh only winnal, golobart, tokely, and Sutherland? (correct me if Sutherland did play against rangers) it was a totally different side. I meant the attitude and effective-ness of the team. Some thing never change. It's fair to say not everything worked for foran but he wasnt awful, he put in a c**t of a shift today. No player was awful today effective-ness? sorry but against rangers we conceded 4 goals and 20+ shots the defense was definatly more effective thats not to mention our shots. as for the shots on target we had 8 times more than killie. and attitude? did you not see the drive from foran today to get on the end of the corner which led to the goal and get to the through ball to create the one on one which admitidly he should of put away but bell done well aswell. again we are back to the point of foran working his arse off. he led the team magnificently it wasnt about what he done when he got the ball today it was about what he done to get the ball his attitude was top class. he could hardly run by the time he was subbed off. like him or not no one in our squad has more desire than him. '' '' thats contructive. I'm sorry to go against you mate, but I hardly find a defense that leaks 4 goals but keeps out 20 shots on goal, effective. I see where you're coming from as they kept out the majority, but they should be minimising those chances in the first place. Also I think there's a lot to say against the midfield who let a team through them enough to have that many shots. But I can't back you up on Foran. You can run, put your heart into a game, but it means nothing if you don't actually do anything of menaing. And unfortunately Foran doesn't. The most consistent thing he will do is moan at the ref and his own players. And once again as I've said before, Billy Mckay? About as effective as a mannequin up front.

Why oh why oh why does Butcher insist on playing Billy McKay?! Nice wee ryhme to remeber the most ineffectual striker I think we've ever had. Also Tansey and Foran still getting a game? Shocking. Points dropped rather than a point gained.

Tuffey Meekings Williams Tokely Gillet Shinnie Jones Hayes Gnapka Tade Winnall Play Kilmarnock at their own game and try and match their attacking intentions. No place for Foran and McKay at all and as Gringo said, starts for Tuffey towards the end of the season.