dougiedanger

Labour have only themselves to blame, too scared to put any real distance between themselves and the other tories, constantly outmanouvered by them, led by a cabal of self-interested Oxbridge toffs, and at the helm a glorified milk monitor you would barely trust to take your bins out.

It's sort of the way the SNP have always done it. This has been part and parcel of aggressive nationalism in general for decades so you come to expect it. And as for anyone intending to vote for any other party.... well if the mob puts them off coming, then all the better. It's not a universal feature though. When I arrived to vote there were no Nats outside at all, which I actually found a bit disappointing since this was a missed opportunity to wind them up again. There were certainly plenty on Inverness High Street on Saturday for the FM's visit. How many were locals and how many were an imported rentamob I'm not sure, but three Yellowshirts were wheeling this trolley piled with all these SNP toys they dish out all over the place when the whole lot fell to earth right in front of me. I neither broke step nor looked behind to clock the inevitable chorus of feral jeers as I observed: "What a wonderfully symbolic collapse!" So basically you did what you do on here--hang around in the shadows looking for an opportunity to make some puerile comment that no one finds funny or relevant except for yourself. Tragic.

Must have been some amount of aggressive, burly "yellow shirt" thugs intimidating poor voters right across Scotland, if the first exit polls are anything to go by.

I would have to say that I am sufficiently sceptical about politicians of ALL persuasions to have concern that success in politics often goes to whoever fares best at cynically deluding those least well placed to understand the issues. It would be on hearing appeals for Paddy Power to be devolved to Holyrood that I would really start worrying. Such skepticism is no doubt well founded but it does not follow that the poor or the "have-nots" are intellectually inferior to the more privileged in society, far from it.

Looking at some of the people who have been roaming about on behalf of the SNP since before the referendum, one would tend to doubt that. Basically, the SNP's main recruitment strategy has been to radicalise and instil a perception of grievance within the nation's have-nots - with predicatable consequences out on the streets. It seems like it is a good thing to have ordinary people engaged in politics. The "have-nots" or the "underclass" as you patronizingly put it have as much right to participate in politics as anyone else. Maybe the days of people tugging their forelocks to their supposed superiors are finally ending, and any true democrat would welcome that.

Couldn't have put it better, Kingsmills.

Breakdown here of Yes votes by constituency. Sneck in at number 11.

Brilliant! You couldn't make this up! The comparisons just become clearer and clearer. So what are the SNP going to do before they come to lynch me? Put in my wiondows? Burn copies of Against all Odds in the high street? Paint a St George's Cross on my door? (That, of course, is if I fail to take your standard advice and follow Albert Einstein out of the country.) How you would love for any of this to actually happen. No offence, but you are becoming delusional, no one in the real world gives a flying one what some doddery old gadge is saying on the internet. Godwin's Law was never more aptly proven, well done.

Cheers CB, that's a few more SNP votes confirmed. Sterling work.

By feck, it took ye all day and that is the best ye can come up with. Godwin's Law strikes again lol.

Wowzers.

Crikey, wee Jimmy Krankie has fair let him/herself go.

Ah yes, another straw man--yer anti-Scottish if ye don't vote the SNP, seeing as this is never said by anyone in the SNP, it seems more like a product of a confused mind , unsure of itself, and again, bereft of arguments. Also, on the evidence of this forum, those playing the Nazi card are the real jokers.

On the contrary, it shows how when the desperate and the bereft of ideas resort to calling those who disagree with them Nazis, they have limited debating skills and have effectively lost the argument. So every mention of "Mein Banff," swastikas and other such guff merely confirms how you have lost the argument, and as the bold Dougal says, a few more SNP supporters are confirmed. So, keep up the good work!

Godwin's Law--sound familiar?? There are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)[3] than others.[1] For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.[8] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law. Godwin's law applies especially to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations (or one's opponent) with Nazis – often referred to as "playing the Hitler card". The law and its corollaries would not apply to discussions covering known mainstays of Nazi Germany such as genocide, eugenics, or racial superiority, nor, more debatably, to a discussion of othertotalitarian regimes or ideologies[citation needed], if that was the explicit topic of conversation, because a Nazi comparison in those circumstances may be appropriate, in effect committing thefallacist's fallacy, or inferring that an argument containing a fallacy must necessarily come to incorrect conclusions. Whether it applies to humorous use or references to oneself is open to interpretation, because this would not be a fallacious attack against a debate opponent.

You don't say.

Je na sai pa Illiterate in two languages, very impressive.

Je na sai pa Tu ne sais rien.

Tedious obsessive, moi?

It's this appalling arrogance that is leading the break up of the union. So keep it coming.

Ah hated Thither.

Dougal's back!

I've said it before and I'll say it again. As an Englishman living in Scotland for the last 40 years I have never encounted any anglophobia nor do I sense any in the changing political climate. That may, of course, be because I'm just such a nice person But why do folk in the rest of the UK not have the opportunity to vote for the SNP? We have it rammed down out throats that the SNP MPs will be working for improvements in the Westminster system and for progressive policies that will benefit folk throughout the UK. So if the SNP have something positive to offer voters in the rest of the UK, why are they not giving voters elsewhere in the UK the opportunity to vote for it? Voting for the SNP would surely be a good vehicle for those disilluisioned with the UK- wide parties and Westminster system to register a protest vote. Well said from one of the few regular contributors to this thread who is not an SNP supporter who makes positive and constructive comments rather than resorting to to regurgitating illogical and utterly unfounded 'nat bashing'. There is a myth started and perpetuated by those with vested interests including inter alia such unlikely bedfellows as Jim Murphy, Nigel Farage and Boris Johnston that and embraced by the right wing metropolitan press that the referendum debate stirred up hatred of England and the English and bitterly divided families who were riven in two as a result. There is no truth in that whatsoever. Yes the referendum stirred up passion and stimulated political interest and debate and, as is apparent, that has continued through to this General Election but there is no anglophobia and the divorce courts are not overwhelmed with spouses who can no longer stand each other having voted differently nor were the criminal courts burdened with siblings coming to blows. It is perfectly legitimate, on political grounds to dislike the SNP for what they propose or to disagree with any or all of their policies or take issue with their record in government at Holyrood but accusing them of anti English sentiment or being home to hoards of anglophobes is sheer fantasy. There are now literally thousands of SNP members and tens if not hundreds of thousands of those intending to vote SNP next week who were born in England but choose to make their domicile in Scotland. Why on earth would they support a party who's fellow members detest them ? So, can we please put this ridiculous myth to bed. But CB met Willie Bell once in the 60s doon the Bumbers Laney and he pure shoogled his walking stick at him.

What aboot the English members of the SNP or those across the UK who would love to vote for the SNP--are they anglophobes too?

Good spelling... More seriously, a caveat, these are just opinion polls and there is still a week to go during which project fear, which won the day at the referendum, will be ratcheted up more than a notch or two so no room for complacency. Perhaps of even greater interest, I am no good with links, is the poll that shows that the First Minister's approval and trust ratings are far and away greater than every other party leader not just in Scotland but in each and every nation and region of the mainland United Kingdom. Indeed, no room for complacency, though that poll did say that 80% were certain to vote, which is remarkable. And yes, wee nasty sassenach hating Nicky is doing no bad for a small-minded separatist.