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Aye, fair play to Celtic for a defiant performance and managing to hold us to a draw. They battled gamely and put up a spirited display, and a bit of luck saw them hold out. Shame to see McLennon in such turmoil, my heart bleeds.
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Well said Gabby. Let's not beat about the bush here. Dallas sent out a joke. Was it in bad taste......... hey, check out Franky Boyle if you think what Dallas did was in poor taste, get a life folks in the real world. I accept that he should not have sent such an eMail from his works address, but hey, we all like a laugh no...........apparently not.
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Apparently fans from all over the world want to have our babies on P&B after dishing out retribution to the Bhoys.
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Apparently, the BBC has us as having "a spirited draw".................. Spirited draw my bottom, we were deserving of more, but will take the point to keep the peace. I also have to report, everyones arch enemy Chic Young was full of praise for the Inverness Caledonian Thistle way of football, although he thought we were hammer throwers before. Well Chic, I hope you are rite enuff educated now and have learned yer lesson. Oh, well done ICT, ferkin fantastic result given the circumstances and thouroughly deserved.
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What did he say, I just caught the end of it when I arrived home. (thanks Ross)
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One of my proudest moments supporting ICT when we came back from 2-0 down today. Watching on a stream and we more than deserved that scoreline. Not only that it consolidated our away run. Thats Easter road, Tannadice, Pittodrie, Ibrox, Parkhead et all, wonderful wonderful achievement. Thanks guys.
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1-0 but not out of it by any means. We seemed to be turned too easily for the goal and Esson beaten at near post as smee said will disappoint him. Good effort by Rooney but he maybe should have done even better. let's give it a go.
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One year on the road undefeated on League duty. Inverness achieved a remarkable milestone today and did it the hard way. One year and counting since Inverness Caledonian Thistle lost a league match, and no better place to do it than the scene of the crime of 'supercaleygoballistic'. We did it the hard way as well, with Celtic tentatively edging into a 2-0 lead through a Ki Sung-Yeung strike and a superb solo effort once more from Paddy McCourt. However, Terry Butcher has built a side with plenty of resilience and no shortage of skill and Inverness deservedly preserved that long undefeated record in spectacular style. Richie Foran started the party by mugging Rogne and brilliantly slotting the ball beyond Forster off the post. The comeback was completed when an audacious overhead kick from Rooney was headed home by Grant Munro with some seven minutes left. The unfortunately named Hamer, and his linesmen were noticeable by their invisibility, so they must have had a decent game. Well done to them as they would have been under tremendous pressure to perform in the Parkhead goldfish bowl. This they did, and they completed the misery for Neil Lennon & Co with aplomb. 27th November 2010 Celtic Park, Glasgow CELTIC 2 - Ki Sung-Yeung (38), McCourt (65) TEAM: Forster, Majstorovic, Hooiveld (Towell 57), Cha Du-Ri, Mulgrew, Rogne, Ledley, Ki Sung-Yeung, Maloney (McCourt 9), Murphy (Stokes 78), Hooper SUBS: Zaluska, Izaguirre, Wilson, McGinn - Booked: none INVERNESS CALEDONIAN THISTLE 2 - Foran (70), Munro (83) TEAM: Esson, Tokely, Munro, Shinnie, Duff, Cox, Hayes, Duncan, Ross, Foran (Odhiambo 81), Rooney SUBS: Tuffey, Golabek, McBain, Sutherland, Sanchez - Booked: Cox (88) Referee Alain Hamer (Luxembourg) Attendance 46,096 The Shakespearean Tragedy is all Celtic's then, over to you Alternative Maryhill..................... Having played its first competitive fixture in August 1994, Inverness Caledonian Thistle is a teenager. According to stereotype, it should have spent the last year doing whatever the footballing equivalent is of locking itself in its black-painted bedroom, pretending to study, listening to difficult, angular guitar music and listing its many hatreds in its diary. But when did Inverness Caledonian Thistle ever do anything according to stereotype? This particular sixteen year old is a brash, swaggering one, which has spent the last year getting up in the faces of teams the length and breadth of Scotland, fuelled by little more than Auchterarder fish suppers, quiz nights and self belief. It must be a grand young team to play for at the moment; it is certainly a grand young team to support. Yesterday’s game at Celtic Park will live long in the memory for a number of reasons: the doubts for most of the week as to whether it would go ahead due to the referees’ strike; a slight anxiety about whether the Inverness team, having elected to travel on Saturday morning, would make it through the snow and roadworks in time to submit the team lines; the novelty of seeing foreign officials taking charge of a Scottish league match for the first time, and anticipation of any potentially controversial decisions; and the additional layer of contempt for Celtic among many of the visiting supporters due to the club’s role in the whole refereeing debacle. Happily for ICT supporters, however, the most prominent reasons for remembering this game will ultimately be football ones. This was a performance that epitomised what Caley Thistle have become under Terry Butcher: confident, composed, classy and unable to accept that they are ever beaten. Belatedly, the media are starting to sit up and take notice of what is happening in Inverness. The team’s away record merited a mention on Sky’s ‘Soccer AM’ and yesterday’s Herald reflected the increased respect for Terry Butcher’s team by predicting that the game would end in a draw, something rarely forecast for any league visitors to Celtic Park apart from the other ugly sister. That the journalist in question also predicted that the team would line up with Stuart Golabek in central defence only slightly reduced confidence in his judgement, and in the end he turned out to be correct, about the draw if not Golly. Even Neil Lennon managed to summon up something which sounded like respect and admiration for Caley Thistle in the pre-match build up, although that had vanished in a puff of green smoke by the end of the match, with Lennon reverting to his torn-faced default setting. If he admires Terry Butcher as much as he professes to, perhaps he should take some tips in treating the media, officials and opponents with the same respect and graciousness that the Inverness manager shows. The pre-match build up for the Caley Away crew consisted, for the real hardcore, of breakfast in the Counting House, elevenses in the Horseshoe and a liquid lunch in the London Road Tavern, with the more lightweight of us joining for the latter part. The Celtic support has come in for a lot of criticism recently, but a couple of hours in the LRT is a reminder that a lot of these guys are just football fans first and foremost. Belying the cliché of Celtic pubs being no-go zones for visiting supporters, the punters in the LRT were friendly and welcoming even when it got so busy around the bar that it was difficult to lift pint to mouth, and a few of them even helped us to identify some of the players on the ‘Celtic 2000-01’ mural, a work of such stunning incompetence that it looked as if it had been painted by a twitching three-year-old holding the brush in his mouth. If only the same could be said of the stewards at Celtic Park. That they were welcoming, that is; their incompetence is beyond question. It was clear that they were set on throwing their weight around even before we got into the ground, when some fans were refused entry unless they got rid of their flag. For a large part of the first half they prowled the aisles, clearly determined to find people to make examples of for the crime of standing in a ‘seated’ section where several rows of seats had been torn out and not replaced; no doubt this did not stop Celtic selling tickets for them. The worst part of this was the hypocrisy and cowardice of it: as Davie has explained in more detail in the matchday thread, several people were ejected seemingly at random, in some cases in a quite aggressive and abusive manner, yet as usual throughout the home support there were large numbers standing, and after half time, the rule, suddenly, bizarrely, seemed to be relaxed for everyone: I, and the people around me, remained standing for most of the second half and no-one batted an eyelid, which raises the question of why several Inverness supporters wasted £25 on a match ticket, not to mention the time and expense of travelling, to be thrown out for a cause that the stewards, ultimately, didn’t really believe in. This needs to be sorted out, and quickly. Even the actions of a few bullies in day-glo couldn’t dampen the spirit of the ICT support, though. There were perhaps a few less in attendance than there might have been due to the weather and the uncertainty over whether the game would ahead, but those who were there once again gave fantastic backing to the team and were once again rewarded with a great performance. Celtic perhaps had a little more of the first half, but in truth there wasn’t a great deal between the teams at any time. There was a definite lack of pace and strength in the Celtic team compared to the one which put ICT to the sword in the CIS Cup earlier in the season; the absence of Anthony Stokes might have made a difference in that respect. The Caley Thistle players looked, to a man, like they believed they were the equal of Celtic’s players and Nick Ross in particular was outstanding in the centre of midfield: prepared to take on opponents with the ball at his feet, and with an ability to see passes that no ICT player, with the possible exception of Danni Sanchez, has matched since Ian Black left the club. Celtic had perhaps a little more of the possession for the first twenty five minutes, but apart from a couple of early shots from Shaun Maloney and a through ball which Daryl Murphy rolled into the ICT net after being flagged for offside, they created few clear cut chances. Even the introduction of ICT nemesis Paddy McCourt for the injured Maloney after eight minutes made little difference initially, and the best chance of this period fell to Adam Rooney, who was found unmarked on the edge of the box after a fine run and pass from Ross, and saw his driven shot pushed away by Fraser Forster. Celtic then managed to put a little more consistent pressure on the ICT goal, with Daryl Murphy bringing a save out of Ryan Esson from a shot on the turn, then heading a Cha cross wide of the keeper’s right hand post. All the same, it felt a little unjust when Celtic took the lead on thirty-seven minutes. The ICT defenders repelled an attack by Ki Sung-Yeung, but the ball broke to Paddy McCourt who beat Cox and fed the ball back to Ki to turn Duff and fire a low shot in off Ryan Esson’s near post. Shortly thereafter, Caley Thistle had a decent shout for a penalty when Jonny Hayes’ free kick appeared to come off the hand of Ki, but referee Alain Hamer, who had a low-key match, ignored Hayes’ claims, and the half finished with Celtic still a goal ahead. Half time: Celtic 1 – Inverness Caledonian Thistle 0 Caley Thistle began the second half like a team determined to overturn the deficit, and for the first ten minutes the Celtic defence was on the back foot and looked rattled by Inverness players’ determination, as they forced a couple of corners and sent several potentially dangerous balls into the Celtic box. Gradually, however, Celtic started coming back into the game, and Murphy, Cha and Ledley all had chances, although only the Korean’s shot posed any real threat, swerving just as it reached Esson. On sixty-five minutes, however, it appeared that ICT’s undefeated away run was finally coming to an end. Caley Thistle appeared to have broken up a Celtic attack and Graeme Shinnie was breaking out of his own penalty area with the ball, when a fine recovery tackle from one of the Celtic attackers allowed McCourt to take possession of the ball. The Celtic winger arguably bettered the goal he scored in Inverness on the opening day of the season, waltzing past first Grant Munro and then Ross Tokely before calmly stroking the ball past the prone Ryan Esson. 2-0. Game over? Not when this Inverness team are involved. They quickly forced a corner, Grant Munro had a shot which produced a save from Forster, and a couple of minutes after that they were back in the game, albeit with a little help from some comical Celtic defending. Daniel Majstorovic, who had looked uncertain throughout the second half, played a suicidal pass across the front of his own penalty area towards Rogne, but before the Norwegian could reach the ball, Richie Foran nipped in, rounded Forster and buried the ball into the back of the net with Majstorovic flailing ineffectually in his wake. 2-1, and in the ICT supporters’ corner a little flame of hope began to flicker again. Caley Thistle continued to push for the equaliser, and on 72 minutes Jonny Hayes had a great chance after Nick Ross and Graeme Shinnie combined well on the left wing and the latter sent an inviting cross into the box. The unmarked Hayes’ header from around eight yards went narrowly over the bar. Hayes then had a shot from outside the box which also went over the bar, before Terry Butcher made his only change of the match, bringing on Eric Odhiambo for Richie Foran. Then the moment we had been praying for happened. Majstorovic, again looking panicky, knocked a long ball from Stuart Duff out for a corner. Hayes swung the ball to the corner of the six yard box, Adam Rooney met it with an audacious overhead kick and Grant Munro nodded the ball into the net from barely a yard out. Pandemonium and hilarity in the Inverness corner; resignation and the beginning of a steady exodus in the Celtic sections. There were a few worrying moments when ICTChris managed to wedge his foot in his seat in the midst of the celebrations: it looked for a while as if he might be anchored there all night, or at least until someone came back with a pack of butter, but eventually, with a bit of help, he managed to extricate himself. The game played itself out with very few more threats to Inverness’s unbeaten record; indeed, if any side looked the more likely to score, it was Caley Thistle. The team’s ambition and determination was summed up in the first minute of injury time, when Eric Odhiambo had the ball on the touchline right in front of the Inverness support. Everyone expected him to try and keep the ball in the corner, happy to take a point from Celtic Park; instead, he twisted and turned away from his marker, determined to try to find an angle for a cross that might bring about the winner. Full Time 2-2 When the final whistle went, it felt like a victory; and as Terry Butcher brought the players across to acknowledge the support, then led the fans in a crescendo of cheers, just as he had done at Ibrox, it seemed clear that it felt like that to him too. So the record continues, the year unbeaten has been achieved and fourth place has been maintained, at least for now. Terry Butcher’s stated ambition now is to take the unbeaten record over the whole calendar year of 2010. To do that, his players only have to survive one more away game, but it is a testing one: against third-placed Hearts, at Tynecastle, on December 18th. There are difficult home fixtures against Dundee United and Rangers to negotiate before Caley Away sets sail for Edinburgh, but regardless of what happens in between, if the team can take anything from what is always one of the best away experiences of the year, then it will be a hell of a Christmas party. See you there.
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No. It's Celtic this week.
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Careful with wikipedia, it's not always correct, it's written by people for the people, sometimes a wind up.
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Well said bluetoon. We will remove the booing posts to a thread of their own in due course.
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It would be the same Jim Farry that died a couple of weeks ago at the age of 56.
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HT: 1-0 FT: 1-2 1st scorer ICT: Hayes 1st scorer Opp: Samaras Crowd: 49,382
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Definitely some blue flashes lighting up the whole sky and rumbles of thunder from the East direction. That was about 10:00pm last night. Blue lightning..........could be an omen for today.
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Hey renegade, I've never pulled a fish before, how do you do it.
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Do fish get thirsty? Can fish drown? Why is the fish in front always called Bob? and, I started out with nothing, but I still have most of it.
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Hmmmnnnnn.......................Celtic v Inverness Caledonian Thistle Game at Parkhead called off on a Saturday and held again, maybe midweek, now where have I heard about that before...............
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Absolutely D, the only shambles here is Kenny Miller for not obeying the rules.
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Ball never went out until Miller kicked it over the line.
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A wee skiff, but pretty cold. I was in Grantown today, around 6 inches there.
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I kid you not. Alternative Maryhill has been lured by Yngwie into writing this preview in the style of McBeth. His creative talents know no bounds and he has come up trumps once again. You may need to read it twice to get the gist of it, but I can assure you, it is about the Celtic game. Just as the snow arrives, I suppose it could have been A winters Tale
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Hubble Bubble Toil and Trouble At the risk of me breaking into prose, our previewer has succumbed to a suggestion from Yngwie that William Shakespeare would be an interesting delivery for the match preview at Parkhead. I'm not sure what substances he was taking, or was it possibly just his medication, but Maryhill likes a challenge, and he has made a stab at McBeth..........sorry, maybe not the most appropriate turn of phrase. Hark, is that thunder I hear....................Thrice the brinded cat hath mew'd...................... So, here goes, a preview in the fashion of Bill Shakespeare and picture this scene...................... I Dreamed a Dream... A pale winter dawn breaks over a grey wasteland in the East End of Glasgow. Faint in the distance is the melancholy jangle of an ice-cream van perpetually doing its rounds. A mangy ginger tom cat with an unlit firework tied to its tail limps among the discarded buckfast bottles. As our eyes adjust to the unearthly scene, we become aware of three WEIRD SISTERS. They are sulkily throwing small, unidentifiable objects into half an oil-drum; occasionally they stop and break into the Slosh. Drawing closer, we see that beneath the pointed hoods of their thin Kappa tracksuits their faces are drawn and wan, but their eyes burn with a fierce, mad light; and, drawing closer still, we can just make out the strange incantations they are muttering: ...Eye of linesman, Toe of hun, And at last our spell is done. Hebble, pebble, songs of rebel, Now the hoops will win the treble! The WEIRD SISTERS cackle hellishly. In the middle distance, but approaching at speed, is a jaunty ginger figure in a top-of-the-range black Kappa tracksuit. It is MACLENNON. MACLENNON: All right girls, what about yis? FIRST WEIRD SISTER: All hail MacLennon, hail to thee, Thane of Garthamlock. SECOND WEIRD SISTER: All hail MacLennon, hail to thee, Thane of Cranhill. THIRD WEIRD SISTER: All hail, MacLennon, that shalt be King hereafter. MACLENNON: King? That sounds magic! But hang on, won’t those ***** at the SFA have something to say about that?... All gaze into the half oil-drum. Their leering expressions are reflected briefly on the surface of the bubbling liquid within, then as it begins to churn and swirl faster and faster, the faces dissolve and... Oh. I’ve woken up. A strange dream, perhaps, but surely not any stranger than the last few weeks of almost hallucinatory bizarreness in the life of Celtic Football Club. In quick succession we have had penaltygate, liegate, refgate, poppygate, ballboygate, emailgate, and just this morning, it was reported that all the molehills in vicinity of Celtic Park were being raised to Munro status. Life in and around Kerrydale Street constantly seems to mimic the plot of a soap opera, such as (to pick one at random) Dallas. In the midst of all this, you would be forgiven for thinking that Celtic had imploded into a mess of Mowbrayesque proportions and were searching for excuses, but in fact they had a 100% league record under Neil Lennon when all this started (during a game which they subsequently won), and it is only since then that their form has started to look a little shaky. All the same, Inverness Caledonian Thistle are going to have to be at the top of their game if they are to extend their unbeaten away run beyond a calendar year at Celtic Park on Saturday. Inspiration from the past? In a previous match preview, I noted that despite Caley Thistle having first come to the wider public attention with a famous Scottish Cup victory over Celtic, the Inverness team’s league record against the green half of Glasgow is poorer than against any other side it has faced. To recap: of the sixteen SPL matches between the sides, Celtic have won twelve and Caley Thistle only one, with three having been drawn. This underlines the size of the task facing Terry Butcher’s team when it runs out on Saturday, and with ICT’s last journey to Celtic Park having finished in a 6-0 cup defeat, albeit with a weakened team, the Celtic players are bound to feel confident that they are capable of beating Butcher’s men. Yet upsets do happen: just look back at 16th December 2007. Celtic went into this game with a two point advantage over Rangers at the top of the SPL, and although Caley Thistle were on a fine three-game winning run after recovering from a terrible start to the season, few expected them to take anything from this fixture. These fears seemed to be confirmed when Celtic went 2-0 up inside the first half hour with a quick double from Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink. Arguably, though, these goals had come against the run of play, and the ICT players did not allow their heads to go down. Don Cowie and Marius Niculae in particular had among their finest games for Caley Thistle that afternoon, and it was Niculae who was brought down in the box by Steven Pressley three minutes before half time to allow ICT the opportunity to get back into the game. John Rankin thumped the ball home past ex-Caley Thistle goalkeeper Mark Brown. Despite Vennegoor of Hesselink hitting the post soon after the break, the Inverness players again took the game to Celtic and were rewarded in 57 minutes when David Proctor outjumped the Celtic defence to nod home Don Cowie’s corner. Scott McDonald had a goal correctly chopped off for offside immediately after the restart, but just three minutes after that, Caley Thistle scored the winner, when Don Cowie ran onto a long ball from Richard Hastings that Stephen McManus had failed to control, and calmly prodded it past Brown. When David Proctor was sent off on 68 minutes for a last-man challenge on Scott McDonald, the ICT supporters knew they were in a for a long last twenty minutes, but the Caley Thistle players defended heroically under relentless Celtic pressure and held on for what remains our only league win against Celtic to date. Looking at the two line-ups from that game today, it would have to be conceded that Celtic are probably stronger in several areas of the pitch now than they were then, and as their last-gasp winner against St Mirren showed recently, they will never allow their heads to go down. Yet despite the talent that existed in that Caley Thistle side, I would argue that Terry Butcher’s current model has a greater spirit and equal ability, and if the likes of Hayes, Foran, Rooney and Odhiambo all hit form at the same time, our unbeaten run could be extended for a wee while yet. Current form and team news It is a mark of the tremendous run that Inverness have been on that the www.scotprem.com website’s ‘current form’ table, based on the last six results, has Caley Thistle second only to Hearts, ahead of Rangers by virtue of having scored a goal more and of Celtic by winning three points more over the same period. Two seasons ago, the debate among the ICT support was all about whether changing personnel could make a losing team any better; today, it is about whether Terry Butcher dare change a winning team to suit different opponents or give players who have done nothing wrong this season their chance. Such is the competition for places this season that Eric Odhiambo, one of our most effective players in the early part of the season, cannot get into the starting line-up. The manager’s biggest decision come the weekend will likely be whether or not to reinstate Kevin McCann, who missed the Hibs game due to the terms of his loan agreement, or to continue with Stuart Duff at right back and Russell Duncan and Lee Cox in central midfield. Obviously the team has potential limitations – many ICT supporters would agree that Ross Tokely, previously mostly employed as a stopgap at centre half, and the youngster Graeme Shinnie have exceeded expectations this season and that they will face a particularly stern test against Celtic. Yet even those supporters of other teams who have dismissed ICT’s early form as a ‘promotion bounce’ must now be starting to concede that there is a genuinely good team in place here. Browsing through a few of the Celtic supporters’ forums, it becomes clear that there is a growing feeling that something is not quite right with the current Celtic team. On paper, the depth of squad and quality of player available seem to exceed those of any other SPL club, Rangers included. However, many supporters feel that the central defence is shaky; that the midfield lacks strength and has not gelled; that the available strikers, Gary Hooper excepted, are not up to the job; and that Neil Lennon is failing to make the right substitutions at the right times. Lennon’s signing Daniel Majstorovic seems to have been exempted from most of the criticism of the defence, but both Glenn Loovens and Thomas Rogne have made costly errors when playing alongside him; Joe Ledley, hailed as a player stolen from under the noses of several EPL clubs when he was signed from Cardiff in the summer, has apparently faded after hitting a patch of good form earlier in the season, while up front Daryl Murphy remains unproven after missing much of the season through injury. The players who has come in for the most flak, however, is comparative Celtic veteran Georgios Samaras, described hilariously as ‘that big dancing hairbrush’ by a poster on the Kerrydale St forum, and in even less affectionate terms elsewhere. Yet for all the criticisms, Celtic remain a team with potential danger in all areas of the park. Gary Hooper has already proven himself to be a genuine penalty-box predator; Anthony Stokes (who missed Saturday’s draw with Dundee United with a virus) has contributed some vital goals and several assists from a predominantly wide position; Ki Sung Yeung is arguably the finest passer of the ball in Scottish football at the moment; Emilio Izaguirre is a tricky overlapping full back who scored a fine goal against St Johnstone earlier in the season; and if that isn’t enough, there is always the threat of the mercurial Paddy McCourt coming off the bench and doing what he did to us in the opening game of the season. Both teams are still short of a few players due to injury. Celtic’s main absentees are club captain Scott Brown, and Israeli midfielder Beram Kayal, who made a good start to the season before injury ruled him out until the new year. Another player who started well this season, young forward James Forrest, is also currently unavailable. At the time of writing, there is no news on whether or not Anthony Stokes will have recovered sufficiently from his virus to line up against ICT. Caley Thistle are still without Chris Innes, David Proctor and Kenny Gillet, but summer signing Gil Blumenshtein is back in contention after several weeks out; in all honesty, any of those players would struggle to break into the Inverness team at the moment, although supporters are keen to see what Gillet can offer after his promising early displays. One thing all ICT fans are praying for, though, is that the apparent hamstring tweak which forced Jonny Hayes off towards the end of the Hibs game will not hamper his chances of running out at Celtic Park this weekend. Prediction? I haven’t got one right yet this season, and for a game which may not, strictly speaking, be vital but still has so many hopes and dreams attached to it, I’m not even going to try. This week, I’ll leave predictions to the weird sisters. Or at least, to themannforthejob. I don't have a prediction either, maybe because of all the uncertainty surrounding the game. Will the ref's turn up, will they come from afar, or can the root of the problem be eradicated. It may be a case of Much Ado about Nothing, but lets's hope it's All's Well That Ends Well and it does not turn into a Shakespearean Tragedy. ***Latest Team & Ref News*** Kevin McCann has returned to Easter Road for some specialist advice on his injured knee, which should see Stuart Duff continue at right back. Emilio Izaguirre will miss this game and possibly a couple more, with internal bleeding in the thigh. Alain Hamer will be the man in the middle........................ of a controversy. All three officials are from the footballing power that is Luxembourg. So, there's no denying it this time; The referee is a hamer, by the way big man.
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Too slow scotty.......... looks as though it's not been re-arranged yet. My info from BBC Sport fixtures.
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Sunday, 30 January 2011 Co-operative Insurance Cup Rangers v Motherwell, SF, 15:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rangers cup semi final on the Sunday.
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I know the answer to that one, I spent three years studying this subject. It's because it has never been abbreviated. Mantis...........I'm not so sure, but it might have been some dirty ***** *******.