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9 minutes ago, DWH said:

Drastic action is needed: getting rid of Gardiner is not enough.  We need people in there and throughout the club who seek the best interests of ICT and nothing else

Dont forget the ability to pump endless tens of thousands of pounds regularly with no return. Not many of them running to be front of the queue to take the reigns.

16 minutes ago, ymip said:

 

Finally, a very interesting update from the Supporters Trust this morning advising that trust members have confirmed their intention to withhold ca. £200k of revenues for the season ahead.  Surely this has to force a serious rethink? 

 

If the club are really saving £300k plus a year moving training to Kelty plus other cuts and savings to be considered, even loosing out on a hypothetical £200k from some fans (which the club will consider likely to have a change of heart during the season) then technically they are still better off. This is about business, money and profit & loss accounts - think SG made that pretty clear in this interview - just thats not what fans want to hear or is the popular driver.

Its also very clear this is a gamble and big roll of the dice to get back to the Championship at first time of asking, otherwise people will be getting their wish of admin. Anything other than a quick return we cannot afford - which for a support that was critical of recruitment and investment over previous seasons to get into the Premiership many now seem happy to cut to P/T and youth players when clearly we will end up jobbing about in League 1 for many years.

This going to encourage anyone for an away trip to Bonnyrigg

Thats not very inspiring for selling to superstar Central belt talent.

We really need to be aiming for minimum 2nd in that group although I fear we could be much more likely bottom end.

11 minutes ago, Starscape said:

Wimbledon did something similar when they became MK Dons

No they didn't, absolutely nothing like this case.

The club is not moving nor is the stadium or the name changing.

10 minutes ago, Fraz said:

How so?

Demonstrates the wide demographic and geographic fan base

15 hours ago, old caley girl said:

A lot of us don't live in Inverness

Interesting.

his thread seems to have migrated from needing players to train locally to now they need to be H&I indigenous too.

Be keen for any of the statos out there to tell us when the last time ICT put out a full 11 of highlanders?

16 minutes ago, FrontRow said:

 

I’m afraid it won’t. We are in league 1. We will not have any pull to any players - rejects from Morton or Partick. Are they seriously better than what our youth system is producing. Not a chance.
 

That the same youth system that our loaned players barely made any impact all at levels way below not just championship but league one. Too many thinking we have a class of 92 when we are lucky to get one average player out of each annual group.

The youngsters we have will not get us out of league 1, be fortunate if they could even keep us there. I'm sure they will be included to supplement into a team but cannot on existing evidence build it around them.

Any news of inbound central belt superstars yet?

4 minutes ago, IcyT said:

It affects me.

You havent listed a single reason how or why you consider it affects you - just why you are annoyed?

A modern football club is a place players come to play, that doesnt change. Just because wont see Billy wandering in Tesco or Ridgers filling his car up with petrol doesnt change a thing come 3pm on a Saturday. Acting offended because the club is looking to recruit from outwith (which we normally do) and mitigate costs associated with relocation seems odd. There is a question around those already rooted locally but given where we are there are very few signed up next year with a permanent base in the Inverness area so that the only part that is unclear and being concerned by.

ICT as a club stopped being embedded in the community or representing the city as soon as we started signing players from outwith the HL or local area and that isnt from this regimes watch. Suggesting its ok to recruit and fill our team with nobody players from elsewhere when its successful but not when we are struggling is hypocritical. 

2 minutes ago, Yngwie said:

as it doesn’t affect the fans.

Correct, it really has no impact and nothing to do with fans at all, but if this was proposed under any other regime its hard to sense there out be so many tears. The current cohort are unpopular so I think we are reaching the point that no matter what they do people want to get upset by it.

4 minutes ago, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

Bye, Bye stadium and a ground share or playing games at Clach?

Why - we dont train at the stadium and it'll still be used for home games.

Not sure how the plan works for those settled in Inverness, hoping they get relocation and arent just jettisoned. The opportunity to have a larger pool of talent at better cost base is logical and hopefully it is done right.

Not sure the proposal of giving money to competitors is great or that we spent money on facilities in Inverness that we dont and have no plans to use, but its maybe going to work out.

Having the team train locally doesnt actually make any difference at all. 

Thats fine if its the approach fans want to take, however the same fans cant then complain our squad is under invested or if we fall further into the wilderness especially if the same regime remain in place - which right now looks increasingly likely. I'm not criticising or suggesting either way is right or wrong - its down to individuals. 

1 minute ago, McMurdo said:

Morning Scot, how are you today?

Amazing contribution there. You should really post more on here so we can all read these deep insights of yours.

Lets remember this when we are looking for our next manager and inevitably someone suggests Robbo

13 hours ago, old caley girl said:

 No money going anywhere near that man Away days only it is 

Sounds like a principled stance, however all this does is weaken the finances at our club and increase those of our competitors. In another years time everyone will say we should have invested more or done better if results dont go our way yet individuals including fans need to be honest about their roles in that case.

1 hour ago, snorbens_caleyman said:

I know we've rested players in the past rather than put them out on an artificial pitch.  What are the implications for our older players, such as Billy, and Aaron Doran if he was fit?

Cant afford the luxury of passengers next season who will only play 50% of the league games. Apart from the budget issues it does nothing for continuity and a settles starting line up - we are unlikely to have a packed schedule where we need that level of squad rotation.

Need to avoid guys who get injured looking at artificial pitches - we know the situation so should be preparing for it accordingly.

8 hours ago, snorbens_caleyman said:

But faced with the choice of progress, as happened 30 years ago, or survival/oblivion,  as could happen soon, which would you choose?

A phoenix club playing in the HL is necessary and look at rebuilding sustainably. Merging 2 clubs with constant debts and being financed by others (with one fully funded by a single aging individual) doesnt look like a master stroke either.

Perhaps this is a cost we can cut and just elevate either Esson or Kellacher to #2.

5 hours ago, snorbens_caleyman said:

No, because of geography.  ICT and County are less than 15 miles apart and are chasing after the same pool of potential supporters.

Dundee has 2 clubs on the same street. In the central belt there are lots of clubs in a 15 mile radius - should they all merge too? And IMO its not the same pool of supporters at all - you make a choice and stick with it through loyalty and if you're fair-weather enough to be 'chased' or woo-ed by another club flashing its knickers suggest you are already a  flaky glory hunter with more than one 'big team' whether that be domestically or elsewhere.

Anyone who wants to go watch a merged Caley & County clearly cares right now more about following a team doing well or in a higher league then loyalty to their own team. On that basis they are all free to **** off to Dingwall and enjoy the Uncle Roy ego project.

9 minutes ago, Yngwie said:

People are going to be losing their jobs

Yup, clear out of supporting & admin staff no doubt, followed by requests for volunteers to help run some match day support functions. Typical cost cutting moves in most organisations - start chopping at the bottom I'd suspect

1 minute ago, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

What is his hand shake like ?

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