STFU

ICTFC is NOT a community organisation, they undertake zero community activity and despite their claims in the most recent rant, they have almost zero fan engagement. They can't even organise a kids Christmas party. ICT Community Trust is a seperate, self funded, self staffed and independently operated organisation. It is they who do the community work the club are taking credit for. Likewise with the ICT Women. Given how the club has operated the last few years, it clear that they have taken way more from the community than they have given, and until we know the figures we can't know how much, if anything, might find it's way to good causes. We're only taking the word of people who have shown time and again that their word is worthless. It baffles me that people think that football clubs should be allowed to just hoover up and **** away money as they please. Any other business wouldn't last 2 minutes if they operated in this manner. The council planning committee aren't doing much for their image, but given the circumstances I think it's right that this goes to full council. Full council should also be kicking the ass of the planning dept. It should never have gone to a vote once they realised only 5 were eligible to do so and should have been redirected to full council at that stage. The meeting may have been quorate, but 5 people should never have been considered representative. It's as if the planning committee and club are having a competition to see who is the least competent.

The way things are going there won't be any club to run.

Looks like that rabbit might have myxomatosis.

Pursuing other sources of income is fine, it's this thing with whoring out the clubs name and reputation to the highest bidder and greedy projects that's unacceptable. They could have rented the stadium to an experienced concert operator and taken a nice wee rental income every year. Instead they go all Johnny Big Baws, attach the club name to an unaffiliated (yeah right!) company, **** it up, and are now unlikely to see any promoter come near us in future. Not to mention the reputational damage and money lost by local companies. If the battery storage was such a winner, then it could have been done by ILI without need to attach the club name and they then make a major donation, or do a big sponsorship deal to pass on the proceeds. The developers knew it would need the 'community benefit' leverage to have any chance, so the club are all over it like a cheap suit and the clubs name, reputation and.possibly even it's existence, are again on the line. Meanwhile, the club have totally taken the eye off the ball with fan engagement, matchday experience, and the product on the park. There's **** all for fans to be proud of when it comes to Caley Thistle at the moment.

That's a total non point, and just noise on the part of the CEO. Why would they appeal something they agreed with? Would it make sense to ask why the club didn't appeal the decision when it went in their favour?

The council did not make any decision to close the Ironworks, that was the property owner. Going by some accounts, the operator was quite happy to get out of the lease as it wasn't making money. Sucks that it's gone, but blame lies elsewhere.

If the original decision had gone the other way, then the club wouldn't have accepted the 'democratic process' and would absolutely be appealing it, as would have been their right. The full council can recall any decision by the planning committee or any other committee so are exercising their right.

It would be interesting to look at loan utilisation in the 4/5 years leading up to our Scottiish Cup win in 2015. My perception is that we had a period of fairly low player turnover and few loans. Which was likely the key to those golden years.

Only until they started disappearing through the floor...lol

Nah. He's our version of the 6 Million Dollar Man. They have rebuilt him. Not sure if he's got 90 minutes in him, but a first 45, with half time break, could still see him contributing for the first 60 mins of a game. I'd rather have that, with a chance of us getting our nose in front, than bringing him on cold at the end when we're chasing a game. It's got to be worth a go, as it can't get much worse than at present.

I'm assuming the club would be able to cite the 4 year and 10 year rule for unlawful development to prevent any action against them in relation to planning at this time? That still doesn't excuse having a stand (or stands) that are unsafe, and I imagine there are safety certificates required. Again, our CEO has history here. Only this time he seems to have overlooked new flooring instead of new seats. Hopefully this is just a very isolated issue and we don't end up with both North and South stands being closed pending full inspection and repairs, and the cost that comes with that.

I think Doran would do well for us in a number 10 role. He has shown time and again his ability to score from distance, and he and Billy have enough time together to inject a bit of much needed creativity in the final third.

We always do well on the possession stat as teams are happy to let us fanny about with ball in our own half. Technically we hit the cross bar, even if it was a ball that actually dropped on the top of it and was closer to hitting the back of the bar than the front if it. I'm not calling for manager or player heads and agree that there are circumstances at play, but that doesn't mean we should be kidding ourselves things are better than they are.

It's the wooden panel flooring which failed. This should be easy and relatively inexpensive to replace, as well as regularly checked under normal maintenance. That has no baring on the structural integrity of the stands. What's happened there is down to neglect on the club's part.

Just watched the highlights and I don't think 3-1 flattered Hibs at all. A slightly less in form Ridgers and they could have been approaching double figures.

The loafers should have been an obvious sign.

I said after thr draw that I felt we were better when teams came at us, and if Hibs do that and we can get our nose in front then I'm confident we can get a result. The danger is we concede early and Hibs then sit in a bit against us.

Please tell me you've washed it!

Did the hat look like this one?

On the topic of Scot Gardiner as per the thread title. Does anyone else think he exhibits the behaviours of a dictator?

I'd say it was more of an opinion than an act of abuse.

Have they? Until we know how much is involved here and the level of debt that needs serviced, then we really don't know what they've done. If you blow £10000 on scratch cards and win £10000, is that playing an absolute blinder or just getting lucky? These guys put us in the position we were in and have taken a serious risk with the clubs existence. The decision in the clubs favour scraped through on the margin of 1 vote. Not sure that counts as low risk. Even if there is a net financial benefit, are these really the right people to be leading the club and in control of the money?

All that can only happen if there's anything left after clearing debts.

The Community Trust is also self funded. With the club doing nothing directly in terms of fan or community engagement these days, and failed ventures that have cost local businesses more than they've provided, it would be impossible to show any socioeconomic benefit of their own.