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That was the cherry on top. What over here would be called a "hold my beer" moment. For me it was a little earlier and the appointment of Rae and Crook. Perhaps good intentions, but even if they could talk the talk, they could not walk the walk and started the process of decline and of not treating local companies correctly. We threw fiscal responsibility and community engagement right out the window right there and that is why we are where we are today. These figures running the club, and everyone who followed them until now will have their own place in ICT history and not in a good way. I disagree about the "Kenny Cameron Legacy" comment. He held his hands up to being too loyal to Richie, a personality trait we all wish the club had with Doran, Ridgers and others more recently, but he oversaw a period of incredible success for our club, and one where he also tried to juggle financial prudence with the demands of managers who wanted to open up the purse strings to challenge even further in their eyes. A delicate balancing act that I don't think anyone who followed him could even hope to emulate. We were one game away from Premiership survival which is a far cry from where we have found ourselves more recently.

ours isn't much better ... shame we didn't have a camera gantry, capable camera person, and people willing to commentate before buying the pixellot system ... oh wait 🤦‍♂️

Innes does look a bit like a young Bobby Mann Had not heard of P&D much until maybe last year but a YouTube marathon later, and i am a bit of a fan. It just seems like they are enjoying themselves in every video and the music is aq bonus. Would be great if we could say the same about enjoying ICT games (again). Hopefully that will come.

Bookmarking this for later. It's a really important mindset shift and I think you are right. Was also really refreshing to watch the SK interview. Obviously happy at a much needed - and from the highlights, deserved - victory but just sounding like an honest reflection of the game is such a welcome change. no excuses, no cliches (or not too many) and acknowledging that there will be bumps and we will work through them. Thats our old mentality creeping back in and it's good to see (hear). .

anyone know where we can get a rangers leaning CEO to run it? [i'll get my coat] 🤦‍♂️

We WERE a supplier (of website hosting, internet services, upgrades/updates, and other IT services) but Mr. Rae & Ms. Crook put paid to that, although paid is perhaps not an operative word given the moonlight flit to a German hosting company and several unpaid bills at the time. That has long since ceased to be an issue and to be fair to the previous incumbent of the CEO chair, we never had any dealings with him so neither I or CTO are creditors of ICT. I guess it's all down to the shares. Definitely not going to be filing in any claim on that front. I wrote that £250 off when I spent it. If I am still a shareholder once the dust settles, great. If not, then it may be a case of buying more if we get publicly traded. I guess we wait and see. The best thing I ever got from owning shares in ICT was actually when that letter arrived, and my football daft son said "Wait. Daddy? You own shares in a football club? WOW!" and then looking impressed. That on its own would have been worth the £250!

This is how I read it too. 20 expressions of interest in helping the club, ranging from buying advertising to on-site restaurants and possibly more revenue generating ideas as opposed to full-scale 'buyers'. We just have to trust the process now and hope that the administrators sort the wheat from the chaff in any/all actual offers to acquire the club. Got my package from the administrators yesterday with the claim form if I want to be listed as a creditor. I assume this is because any sale of the club will mean we are all no longer shareholders? I can deal with that on a personal level, but how does that affect the likes of the Supporters Trust with their 10% voting right?

I think (hope) Mark is able to distinguish between those who treated him badly and were running the club into the ground, compared to those who are now trying their damndest to mend fences and bring the club back to its community roots and focus. I hope to see the day sometime in the not-too-distant future where we see the likes of Mark, Ryan Esson, Aaron Doran and Shane Sutherland (and likely a few more) welcomed back into the fold and given an apology on behalf of those who didn't have the balls to do things properly first time around. It wont be the fault of those apologising, but it will be deserved by those who are apologised to.

When it comes to this type of situation its almost entirely a numbers game. If he is getting a higher-than-average wage + accommodation costs on top of that, then his number is likely near the top. Not sure what input the likes of Charlie, Kells or anyone else had into making the decision about who stayed and who went, but the cull was less expansive than most of us imagined. Looking at the ones who went, then I am going to assume we were paying accommodation for most of them, which must be a high cost, and with Dunc, Bollan and Garden, likely in the same situation there too, that has to be several thousand a month off the salary cost as well as accommodation and other hidden costs.

Good video. enjoyed it.

I think we draw a line under this week's game. Its been an incredibly stressful week for all concerned and even if they didn't have the stress of worrying about their jobs, then they also had the mind**** of adapting to the ideas and tactics of a new incoming manager (even if he was already there as #3). I've been in the same boat as described by one of the players in the media over the weekend ... waiting in an office to hear your fate as you know a portion of your colleagues will be gone and hoping it is not you. Your relief at not being on the chopping block is short-lived as you then feel sorry for whoever is gone, and while your body may be going through the motions of the task at hand with minimal input from your brain, the rest of your head is all over the place. Its surprising to me that we didn't lose by more ... perhaps we are lucky it was Dumbarton this weekend! Sounds like SK had us playing a little more positively this weekend but instead of the Dunc method of neither conceding or scoring very many, we employed a different idea to try and win but left ourselves a little open. Reports from those who were there sound somewhat positive so give them a couple of games for the heads to reset and for Kells to instill what he wants them to do and hopefully we might see improvements.

Today would have been a bonus, albeit one we should have tried to take. Players didnt find out until literally Thursday if they had a job or not. Would have been hard to concentrate on the task at hand. The real work starts now. A full week or training, a new mindset (hopefully) and a slow steady progress ... we can but hope anyway. Otherwise, you are right, League 2 next year and a rebuild.

ok, lets get back on topic please

A positive thread for once 🙂 Wishing the team of Scott Kellacher & Billy Mckay a winning start to their Head coach / Assistant roles. Going to be tough ask to make up ground, but we have to get behind them and support like we have never supported before! Its not impossible.

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"Against All Odds - The decline and resurrection of ICT in a phygital universe" 🤪, nahh, maybe a bit too short and snappy a title ... Makwanageddon it is then 🙂

I really miss IHE. You know right about now that he would have the panto written and in true IHE style it would be very near the knuckle but written in such a manner that none of it would be actionable ... and even if any of it was, he wouldn't give a toss!

May not be Povlson then .... https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/richest-person-in-scotland-credited-with-interest-in-buying-spfl-club-4836051

Great to hear this part. and once again, many thanks to AS who seems to be doing all he can in this moment. Speculated on another post that the 3 bids might be AS + others as #1 (so obviously wrong there) but it would not surprise me if bids 2 & 3 were Ketan Makwana as one of them, and the consortium of 6 businessmen fronted by Don Lawson and David Anderson and rumoured to also include Morrison, Cameron and Munro according to the daily record last week. Heres hoping the 3rd bid may instead be Povlson - we can dream 🙂

I hope so too and thanks for the kind words. Said yesterday we need that siege mentality and a bit of a chip on our shoulder as our motivation or edge to go out and just what Dundee did. We need to back Scott Kellacher and Billy Mckay to the hilt as they try to do this. What an introduction to football management for both of them - Scott with his first appointment as #1 and Billy as #2. Lets take each game one at a time, score some goals and get some wins !! None of this complicated ****, just play football at its most basic and simple level. Indeed. I know a Hearts fan over here who I go to games with and his exact words to me at the time were "what the living f*** are you guys doing. don't let that **** anywhere near your club". Most fans I know have the same opinion that Ross Tokely mentioned in the press today, and when a club legend with almost 600 appearances over all divisions speaks up like that, then we should listen. Its a shame however that the board spent all that time not listening. So which is it from our former chairman ... is our former CEO "the best he could find" as he said in another interview, or is he this vilified and victimised pillar of the community who is at heart a much maligned and misunderstood individual? Is SG writing his press releases or interview answers for him?

Nope. just the standard rule that's been in place for a few years now. Its a bit like kicking a man while he is down, but not aimed at ICT specifically. Alan Savage + others? Ketan Makwana + phygital friends? David Anderson / Don Lawson fronted bid? - from the Daily Record last week, this consortium of 6 businessmen was also reputed to involve Morrison/Munro/Cameron. Its all rank speculation on my part, but hopefully, being in the hands of professional administrators means that the decision on who can bid or be taken seriously is based on merit rather than bullshit.

let's keep the personal jabs out of this thread please. it's going to get pretty emotional, and tempers may flare as things unfold but please debate the topic NOT the poster. We will apply topic bans if people keep taking it off the rails to drop in petty personal jibes.

by funding, does he mean more loans so we would be £5m or £6m in debt when it was called in instead of £3m or £4m? Also no changes at boardroom level or in the CEO's office so still no governance. Administration is going to be hard, painful and horrible, but pouring money into a leaky bucket still leaves it empty.

exactly. Thats the ones I will feel the most pain for.