Harry Chibber

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I'd probably accept a 2nd or 3rd finish if he is intending to stay and build for the future but at the moment he seems to be considering only this season or bust. If that's his attitude then anything but a win against Dundee is bust IMO

I don't think the crowd will accept "I'm just here to collect a wage", if he doesn't reach his target and has no plans to stay next season.. he'll get booed off the park every game

Bully came from some unknown club in Latvia, I can't imagine he'll be demanding a massive wage... infact I wouldn't be suprised if he was one of our lowest paid players. Sell Imrie, Barrowman or let McBain leave to free up contract money for a decent centre half

I can't imagine he'd have the brass neck to stay with no plans to see the team into the next season... with no goals achieved and no future at the club why would he stay???

... and if he draws pls refer to 'if we lose'

18 games played, we are officially half way through the season and 12 points behind the leaders Dundee. If we win, 9 points (although very difficult) is an achievable target when you take into consideration we play them on 2 more occasions before the end of the season. Not to mention the psychological affect it will have on us and them going into the new year If we lose.... I'm not a pessimist but I can't see us making up a difference of 15 points in the remaining 18 games. 2 games against Dundee to reduce the deficit to 9 but we are still requiring 3 weekends where we take full points and Dundee take none... to put that in perspective, I think we had 2 weekends like that so far this season!!! In the meantime we would have to win every other remaining fixture.... not impossible but very very very unlikely I think if we lose against Dundee Butcher needs to make his plans clear, he needs to commit himself to the club for another season or leave so our next manager has the transfer window to build a team for next year. I don't want to read Rafa Benitez type interviews every week where the manager is clearly in denial and still claiming he can win the league where there is an insurmountable* defecit * big word for Christmas :)

At 22 think he is an excellent asset to the club... as mentioned on another thread I can see him as more of a RB than a centre half but he's a natural defender and we don't have too many at the club Should definitely be kept

That's the price of most body armours My life is complete now I can have my very own ICT body warmer :D :) Shop clicky Anyone else having problems bringing up the tracksuit page???

Cheer Scotty, hopefully Darren gets to hear the opinions of some fans regarding the shirt sponsor I've not seen enough of the other Errea merchandise to comment on but I think they're main selling point has to be the replica strips My point exactly, since County signed up with Adidas I'm forever seeing their tops at sports centres round Glasgow... I'm usually the only one wearing an ICT top

I know we've been put off foreign managers after Vogts but I think Lars Lagerback would have been an excellent choice.. he knows how to work with limited resources and managed to get Sweden through to International competition consistantly. Levein will have my full backing but I think there were better options available but Gordon Smith (f*d) couldn't distinguish his erse from his elbow so not suprised he's gone for the next available option out side of the OF.

BBC link I like the guy but he hasn't won a thing and flopped big time when he was in England... will you be happy with him as new Scotland manager??

Get a decent centre half and put Bully to right back... trust me, he has everything required to play as a full back - pace, power, energy, likes to get forward and he'd be less of a liability there as he is at centre half!! At only 22 he should definitely be signed on a longer deal... guarentee he will pay it back in full

If we can beat them in the league at some point this season i would be happy. Both are a must or Butcher doesn't even get the option to stay

I was suggesting we get Bully on a longer contract because he will fetch a fee at somepoint (not now when he is out of contract in 2 weeks!) .. only 22 and a very talented player IMO There is no point in using the 1 yr contracts to see who has made an impression and then not sign them for a longer duration... we're just advertising them to the rest of the league agreed, I had high hopes for Barrowman this year but Butcher obviously doesn't fancy him so he is just taking up wages at the moment

I don't see how everyone has given up hope... Dundee are no world beaters and will lose points a long the way. We are starting to sort out our defence.. everything's to play for

1) Can we afford to let them go for free? Even if they are sold at a bargain basement price then it's something... because of the bosman ruling we have no sellable assets if we don't offer longer contracts. I'm not suggesting every player we signed at the start of the season deserves the contract extension but the management should be able to tell by now which players will attract a fee i.e. Hayes, Foran & Bully 2) Depends on whether they are made to feel wanted by the club... at the moment these players will be without a job come May. I'm sure they would agree to have contract extensions with buy-out clauses if need be 3) The new manager wont have money to spend and no players to sell to generate capital if we don't look to offer longer contracts. Grassa is employed to look out for the well-being of the club after any management team is replaced... or what else is he at the club for?? I could see the thinking of 1 year contracts at the start of the season to find out we weren't taking on a load of duds but now the management/club can see which players are performing/carrying value, they should be creating contracts to match that.... this all or nothing attitude is going to see us bust

Lionel = 2 clean sheets :021: Can't complain about a draw away to the pars, good result.. 4 points in 2 games.. keep it up :)

See that would make more sense... even if we got minimal value to pay the contracts offered it's nothing lost I just can't understand what they're thinking... it's like Leeds before they plumeted down the divisions, we don't have to be all or nothing there is an inbetween. The only way to have an asset to sell is by securing him on at least 2 years otherwise we are just giving them away i.e. Dargo, Rankin, Cowie, Vigurs, Wood, Dodds... all of which are valued at their clubs ridiculous way to conduct business... if anyone can offer an arguement to why they have done this please do

also advertises our players to other clubs

Man United lost to the likes of Burnley! Exactly, every team in the league is possible of taking points from the other in the EPL this year.. apart from Wolves :party01:

I doubt this is his opinion.. he's probably being told that he can't offer contracts at the moment by the club

Caley D & Scotty might be able to clarify this but I hope Darren realises the fans aren't happy with Errea (never have been).. the club might be saving a quick buck in mass orders but I don't think they realise the impact a decent strip with a decent shirt brand has on kids/big kids (i.e. me) now-a-days. Strips I have in my drawer at home: 12 different ICT tops varies between home & away (including that orange one :party01: ) Several Scotland tops Sparta Prague IFK Gotenberg Boca Juniors Ajax Fiorentina PSG point is, I buy a lot of tops because they look good and they have a decent sponsor... as a kid you always used to look at the Nike, Adidas, Puma, Kappa tops as the ones you wanted to spend your only ?40 on... or your birthday/christmas money on and it's a simple decision like that which can decide what team you support for the rest of your days. If I was a kid now-a-days and I was looking how to spend my birthday/christmas present I'm not sure I'd chose a bigger than should be, badly made Errea top

You can't deny his goal ratio.. lower division but it wont be long before another club in the 1st picks him up only 22.. plenty to prove and shouldn't have been doubted by our fans so quickly.. the abuse that one of our own youngsters received before being punted was ridiculous

After the abuse fans from this site gave him I wouldn't be suprised if he snubbed us out of principal