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Maybe that was the case. I don't necessarily think he's a bad player, just not always as effective as he could be. And the weekly wrath of the forum rears it's ugly head again. Seems to be the way these days, someone disagrees with someone else's view and then the point scoring begins. Such lovely behaviour.

A lot of the time he can be quite good but I wasn't as impressed today. Felt his passing and stuff was quite as good as it normally is.

First of all ICT didn't win today - he saved Butcher's blushes with what was probably his first shot on target snatching a draw. What I meant is that his penalty did nothing in my eyes to give his overall performance any boost. 99% of the time today he just wandered around the front area, either missing the or two chances he did have (and unsurprisingly missing) or doing nothing at all. Sorry if I can't agree with your amazing and holier than thou view, I just comment honestly on what I saw.

That result saved Butcher's blushes today. In some senses ICT deserved to win, whilst at the same time both deserved to be beat. Let's me start by saying that at times ICT were woeful. How Ayr (who were nothing special at all) got three goals is a complete mystery. Of ICT, Golabek was good, Munro looked solid and Hayes was effective. Foran tried hard, whilst Duncan was decent at times. Tokely had a rather up and down game, whilst not being able to pass to save his life, did look better going forward. Proctor was fairly quiet. Of the rest, Sanchez wasn't at the races at all, Esson looked a little dodgy at times, whilst Bulvitis was okay in the first half, was a bit clumsy in the second. And then there's Rooney. No doubt some dimwit will justify giving him the MOTM today as he scored a penalty, but in truth, the guy does nothing. He just wanders around aimlessly up front, whilst having the pace of a snail. I don't care if he scored today, he was very poor. The ref was a complete tube as well. My favourite moment of his was in the second half when ICT had a free kick just over the half way line. Not happy with where the ball was, he lightly passed it about a foot backwards. Really, what was the point? ICT second half approach was what they should have done all game. ICT were very good at creating the chances but seem to struggle with the knowledge of how to put them away. ICT really lack the cutting edge up front that left with Dargo. That and some sloppy defending, is what will probably cost ICT promotion this year.

Sorry but they ain't a patch on Busted and S Club whatever it was with them wee kids.

HT - ICT 1-0 Ayr FT - ICT 3-0 Ayr ICT 1st scorer - Foran Ayr 1st scorer - No scorer Attendance - 2,763

I can honestly say that I have never heard any 'gloating' about '67. Maybe reminiscing, but no gloating. And taking your point, Celtic should then harp on about '67 before every champions league game, which simply doesn't happen. Maybe if you frequent the Celtic forums. I know England games are less regular than the CL, and that comparing Celtic in the CL and England in the WC is impossible, but I just don't hear a peep about '67 before any CL games. Maybe I switch off from it. For me, and you can take this as racist or a tad prejudiced, the English media/fans are a more arrogant breed than the Scotland fans. The fans should probably expect more, they do have a decent team, but the Scotland fans believe more in the occasion rather than the end result. I'd say a lot of it comes down to how big and infrequent the World Cup is, but also because England has a much larger support and far larger media platform but I have heard gloating from all those aforementioned groups. Let them have their fun and get on with your own life, but unfortunately when it comes to some people when it comes to England that's just too much to ask.

I wouldn't worry about that, studies have shown than children of that age often start with a more radical view point and grow in to sanity as they get older.

I don't necessarily think it is expected of Scots, more that most of these programmes are made in England, mainly by English people for what is mainly an English audience. I think the difference with that though is that the area known as "Ross-shire" or "Ross County" if you like is not a country. It might look like a foreign country, stuck in the dark ages like it is, but amazingly it isn't.

I'm a good part English and I personally don't find the whole thing racist at all - just at times a little sad. I agree with one of the posts above, we Scots are a rather petty and backwards bunch at times and whilst it is true that the English media do go on a bit about '66, how often do you hear Scots gloating about the events of '67? Whether in retaliation or not, quite a bit. It's also the same with other teams. How often do you hear ICT fans go on about the events of Tuesday 8th February 2000? A heck of a lot. England just have a bigger media platform and a larger fanbase, to bring up the World Cup win. And who can blame them? If Scotland won the World Cup, we'd never hear the end of that either.

:( Really? He's been poor at best for about the last six years.

And if they hadn't said this, people would have been queing up on this forum to slate the club for no ambition. I seriously wonder why some posters on this forum support ICT. If they fail to do as they themselves said they would, and seemed so confident of doing they have failed on their own terms. And thanks for the last bit, I'm sorry we all can't have the same happy clapper opinion as you.

That's the Genoa strip isn't it?? It's similar to their design but they have a different make I think.

Back on topic, was the case dropped by the FA?

How many other 1st Division managers are on ?100,000 a year? And Maurice must be on a fair wage too.

I see you need to be over 16 to enter the Mars Bars site. What's all that about?!

To be quite honest, I'd rather Malpas sorted out his own team first before making his feelings known on a team he has no input in.

The Highland Derby game was a home tie that was called off at about 1PM IIRC on matchday. There was also a Celtic game called off at around 2005ish as well and I think I read somewhere a game against Clyde was called off as well.

You've got to remember here that ICT are/could be/would be the ones who set themselves up for a possible fall. They were the ones marketing themselves as the team who would go "straight back up" and if ICT fail to do that, then they have failed and should they fail, they have only themselves to blame.

Yes I did need and wanted an answer. It was about something that happened to ICT, involving people who were part of the ICT at the time. I'd heard the start of the incident, I didn't and still really haven't heard the end of the incident. Seems fairly simple to be honest. And anyway, another one of your moderating team started a similar thread recently, just a few weeks ago about ICT proposed move from the then Arsenal reserve keeper over two seasons ago. There was nothing said about that thread, but it does seem to be the case now, that when something comes up where I am involved, a seemingly different set of rules seem to apply.

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I wouldn't put Lionel in there, or it won't be long before you face the wrath of the forum!

I thinking of something like this recently as well. Before people from Newcastle (upon-Tyne) were called Geordies, what were they called? Are people from Newcastle, New South Wales also known as Geordies? If not, what? And, what do you call someone from Dingwall? Dingwaller? Dingy? Dingwallian? Or is it just a plain tink?

I wouldn't want Butcher staying if he was still on (allegedly) ?100,000 a year. Not necessarily, Butcher didn't seem to rate either of them.