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The list which has reached NZ is actually incomplete. You are clearly not aware of the thick wad of 400,000 false papers marked "NO" that Lord Lucan smuggled in, hidden up Shergar's backside. It turns out you are correct Charles. Reports coming through now confirm your additions. Also it seems the whole conspiracy was orchestrated by the Elders Of Zion who have been hiding Lord Lucan and Shergar in the Bermuda Triangle for the last few decades in preparation for just such an event as the Referendum. Seemingly the Chemtrails that were spotted across Scotland the day before the referendum are a "No Gas" that approximately 55 percent of the population would be sensitive to. What devious people they are. And four counting staff at the Highland referendum count in Dingwall were sacked on the night for giving thumbs up and high fiving each other when they opened Yes votes whilst booing when they opened NO votes. Meanwhile EVERY SINGLE OTHER count official in Scotland was signed up personally by Elvis for the Elders of Zion or by the Most Worshipful Master The Lord Lucan for the Winston Churchill Westminster Grand Lodge Loyal No. 1707. PS - ONE of these statements is actually TRUE! They are all true if you are a Yes voter.

The list which has reached NZ is actually incomplete. You are clearly not aware of the thick wad of 400,000 false papers marked "NO" that Lord Lucan smuggled in, hidden up Shergar's backside. It turns out you are correct Charles. Reports coming through now confirm your additions. Also it seems the whole conspiracy was orchestrated by the Elders Of Zion who have been hiding Lord Lucan and Shergar in the Bermuda Triangle for the last few decades in preparation for just such an event as the Referendum. Seemingly the Chemtrails that were spotted across Scotland the day before the referendum are a "No Gas" that approximately 55 percent of the population would be sensitive to. What devious people they are.

Reports are coming through to New Zealand about a conspiracy group who rigged the vote at the referendum in favor of the No vote. Seemingly Yes voters believe that a coalition of Elvis, George W Bush, The Shooter from the Grassy Knoll, Senior Freemasons and Senior Illuminati gathered in Roswell with various Alien species and hatched a very successful plot to overturn the Yes vote. Upwards of 100,000 Yes supporters have seemingly signed a petition in protest and are demanding a recount or another referendum. Is this all true?

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Dearest Construct, I am sure you are right on all those accounts above. My main meaning, poorly expressed, was to indicate that Scots had contributed around 75% of their seats to the Labour cause during the early Blair years and so had got the government they wanted. But you are right enough, Labour would have still governed without them. Although the many Scots living in England at the time who voted Labour would have made a hefty contribution to the Blair cause. As I say to my daughters - I've told you a million times I never exaggerate.

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I have to agree almost completely with you on both of your posts Clacher. The baby boomer generation ( especially Tony Blair and Labour ) have a lot to answer for the current state of affairs - and you and your generation and subsequent generations should be very angry, very indeed. However, that is the Labour Government that was largely in power thanks to all the Scots that voted them into power for so many years ( thanks mostly goes to Glasgow and surrounds ! ). I grew up with the determination to be self sufficient when it came to my retirement and health care ( if I could work hard enough to afford it that is, fortunately I could and did ) and thus I retired well before 60 and am now paying for my own health care and not drawing a pension from any Government even though I could claim something from the U.K , Canada, Australia and NZ. I am also still paying my taxes and other payments each year that are well above the level of the average tax payer - so I am still a positive net contributor to the country I live in. As you indicate there are a number of Baby Boomers like me in my situation of being positive net contributors in their retirement - it is a set of values that a lot of us grew up with. Unfortunately not enough of us grew in this way. And I am talking about the people that that had the capability to do so not about the unfortunate people who did not have the capability to do so. They should always be helped and looked after. On behalf of my generation I apologize to you and your generation for the hardships you will have to endure into the future Unfortunately an apology is not very nutritious nor does it have any monetary value. My advice to you is to do your best to not be dependent in your retirement, in any way, upon the state ( which ever one it is ) in which you live in.

Got a YES vote from bughtmaster! I'd do anything for a YES vote! Tbh, I hadn't intended to come back...a) because I thought the thread was pretty well finished anyway, given the vote was past and b) because I was well through a bottle of red and indescribably depressed when I wrote the flounce (my spelling and grammar were decent though, weren't they ?) and c) nearly two years of banging my head off a brick wall composed of DD, yngwie and starchief was getting wearing. . However, on reflection, given that I have had myself deleted from the database on leaving other forums to stop me going back, but hadn't here, I rather think that culduthel just caught me at a bad time....and I did just what Westminster does.when making laws.....produced a knee jerk spur of the moment reaction . . Decided I'm just going to put culduthel on ignore, and then he can be as stupid about me as he likes. Sorry DD, yngwie and starchief and the others I irritate.....but it isn't likely I'll be posting much............unless Westminster plays silly buggers over the "VOW". . Office Central re-instates Oddquine as many forum users still seem to believe in the construct. But they do away with Salmond as nobody believes in him anymore.

Is that the New Zealand, the country with a population of less than five million who decided they no longer wanted to be governed from Westminster, who became independent, continued to use the pound sterling for many years after, have a policy of no nuclear weapons on their soil but don't seem to be at greater threat to their security and who have largely prospered ever since ? Or is there a different New Zealand you speak of ? Yes Kingsmills you are right - it is the very New Zealand, that Scotland as part of the British Parliament/Government, granted independence through various laws, statutes and declarations from about 1830 through to 1947. Thanks for that Scotland. Especially the one that turned us along with Australia into a Dominion of the Crown. And the one that kept the Crown as head of State through to this day, via the Governor General. A process of steady devolution that worked very well. We are all happy with the situation especially as the Nationalists won the election last night. We are also the New Zealand that was settled mostly by Scots who worked with and intermingled with the Maori so that today three quarters of Kiwis have Scottish blood running through their veins - most Maoris you meet will very proudly tell you about their Scottish Ancestry.

This definitely proves the adage - As you grow older you grow wiser. Lots of young people at University become instant Marxists. By the time they have left Uni and worked for a couple of years they realize what a load of old unworkable cr*p that is and become more moderate or liberal or conservative. As a 16 - 17 year old I would have voted Yes as well - as would have many of the older folk who voted No on Thursday. You will find as you grow older your views and opinions will change. That is one of the beauties of life. In 15 - 20 years time or so these 31-37 year olds will more than deserve the opportunity to determine the outcome of a referendum on Independence. And best of luck to them. I think it has to do with that the fact the over 65's are more likley to favour the union as it had a function back when they were growing up. alot of age group voted yes not only the teenagers! Your time will come eventually. By that time though, you may be a crusty old conservative voting for the Union. I would rip out my internal organs through my butthole with a rusty hook and follow that with a lemon juice enima before that ever happens... What you describe is very, very similar to a Colonoscopy without the anesthetic. So you are right, by the time you are 65 you will definitely have had one of those and thus fulfilled your prediction from above.

And what wondrous generation are you clacher_holiday2 ?

This definitely proves the adage - As you grow older you grow wiser. Lots of young people at University become instant Marxists. By the time they have left Uni and worked for a couple of years they realize what a load of old unworkable cr*p that is and become more moderate or liberal or conservative. As a 16 - 17 year old I would have voted Yes as well - as would have many of the older folk who voted No on Thursday. You will find as you grow older your views and opinions will change. That is one of the beauties of life. In 15 - 20 years time or so these 31-37 year olds will more than deserve the opportunity to determine the outcome of a referendum on Independence. And best of luck to them. I think it has to do with that the fact the over 65's are more likley to favour the union as it had a function back when they were growing up. alot of age group voted yes not only the teenagers! Your time will come eventually. By that time though, you may be a crusty old conservative voting for the Union.

This definitely proves the adage - As you grow older you grow wiser. Lots of young people at University become instant Marxists. By the time they have left Uni and worked for a couple of years they realize what a load of old unworkable cr*p that is and become more moderate or liberal or conservative. As a 16 - 17 year old I would have voted Yes as well - as would have many of the older folk who voted No on Thursday. You will find as you grow older your views and opinions will change. That is one of the beauties of life. In 15 - 20 years time or so these 31-37 year olds will more than deserve the opportunity to determine the outcome of a referendum on Independence. And best of luck to them.

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Today I am going to vote for the Nationalists ! But in the New Zealand elections - and hopefully John Key and his team will return.

The Referendum - the gift that keeps on giving! Now Scottish football supporters have promised to stop singing the dirge The Flower Of Scotland at upcoming Scottish matches. We can only pray that it is ditched as our unofficial anthem from all occasions very soon. What a gift that will be.