bauhaus

vajazzle

If they have to start the season on our turf, then they will have to play all their first round of home games away at TCS. SPORTING INTEGRITY, as it could be argued that other teams will think that those first clubs to play them in Inverness will have an advantage from playing them on neutral gtround, so Im pretty sure they would have to play all 11 clubs at TCS before returning home. Would be weird to sit in the away stand to watch us play our away day at County!!!!!

The 1000 gate number is most likely from those teams closer to the central belt where the attendance more than doubles, even trebles when the old firm were in town. We can only give 2500 plus the south open end of the main stand, so 3000 max. But the likes of Motherwell and Killie, Hibs, Dundee Utd, St Johnstone, Aberdeen, will drop that 5-6000 plus gates. Celtic will not be immune, 60,000 for old firm games, but last year attendances of under 50,000 were frequent. Celtic 20-30 points ahead, can you see 55,000 turning up tp see them play us, county, Killie, St Mirren, St johns, Dunfermline or Dundee etc etc. How much sponsership will be lost, how much revenue from match day top rate hospitality etc etc. As I said, we have county, for one season, maybe more, so gate takings will be similar for the first season. SKY TV? not sure if you were paid per tv game, but they wont have an away old firm game each weekend, unless my English pals are correct in what they are saying the rumour is that SKY are to follow Rangers back through the leagues. What is likely, is the third, second and first division clubs will get a boost, which will give some a season or twos cash flow, as all will have two home games v the Newco. The likes of Elgin may get 6-8000, Queens Park 15,000+ as Rangers fans will flock to see their team at Hampden for the last time in a few years. As for this argument that our clubs did it in the past ( Aberdeen and Dundee Utd in european finals playing exceptional football ), when they didn't have money....... well a lot of the other leagues didn't have so much money then either, but now they have and the gulf will be huge to the average teams in other leagues. One real positive though, Celtic should get out voted on the money distribution, and this crazy 11-1 approval vote. Get it down to an 7-5, or 8-4 vote, so it is more of a even distribution, with the increase in money for league placing being fair. All in all, I think the club who will suffer the most, in terms of total income loss, will be Celtic. I can see their attendances dropping to even 40,000 this season, less sponsors, less income from hospitality, and players wanting to leave to gain more competitive matches. It will be very interesting to see what SKY do in 12 months. Everyone seems to think that ESPN will step in, but they may be thinking their is no interest without the old firm too. Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Dundee United, Hearts, Aberdeen to name a few are very close to the edge. If one does tip over, what outcry will their be then.

The demise of Rangers is now complete. Not accepted in the SPL, unlikely to gey into the First Division, so probably the Third division. Hopefully the sfl promote the losing play off finalists, and decide between Dunfermline and Dundee. It has been openly accepted that each club will now need another 1000 fans per game to make up the imbalance ( although unlikely this applies to ICT with County up ). Motherwell and Kilmarnock are now possible contenders for administration themselves, with the sky deal likely to falter and reduce the following season, then putting Aberdeen, Hearts, Dundee United, Dunfermline, St Mirren all likely to find very serious financial difficulty. We are not immune to this, as 2013/14 becomes very critical for all clubs. Rumours going round that Celtic are now going to have to sell players because of their wage bill, and champions league group stages are an absolute must for them now. After Celtic become champions this coming season they will face an exodus of players due to the lack of competition, and falling gates. Scotlands standing in the european configuretive will drop as poor results really effect, so money becomes even tighter, among those still being "competitive" at the top end of the spl ( 2nd to 4th ). If Rangers survive at all, it will be at least 4 seasons before the spl can see them again, and the way they are shedding players it might be more than 4 seasons. Where will the spl standing be in 3 years, and what clubs are in real danger. Money isnt everything and scotland will still have a top league, but what standard do you think it will be with players wages as low as £ 500 per week probably

Oldham

I was told it was an ICT shirt from our first couple of seasons

Does any one know how many of the under 17 have signed apprentice forms this season.

Oddquine, Tom Smith was players player of the year, Adam MacLeod was coaches player of the year. Tom had a good first season as apprentice but not so good second year and was released. Adam got injured very early in the season and was released after one year, and went to Strathspey to get fit and playing again. At time of signing as under 19s, Tom, Chubbs, Adam and Jack Sutherland were the outstanding prospects - and none are at ICT now. Last I heard Tom and Jack were going to go to Uni, Chubbs had signed for Brora, and Adam is on trial at a league club.

nonsensicle

CaleyD, unfortunately I think the old firm fans have increased a bit at TCS, as they had been getting the wing of the main stand more often, meaning the ICT fan numbers have been falling most dramatically. Also Rangers tend to get higher attendances than Celtic games, probably down to the Lennon factor. off topic but its suprising Celtic won anything with Rangers cheating and most refs seemingly biast against Celtic

now now, that has not been proven.

maybe they should look at who finished consistantly highest over the period which OldCo were at it. But where do you start 90s?

redbull

gay

Kilmarnock reporting they will need another 1000 season tickets on top of last season to survive if Rangers go out of SPL, and Motherwell have said without Rangers in the SPL they will go into administration! Is this the tip of the iceberg. We would be ok next season, but who else would. Well done to Naismith and Whittaker

Hillsborough

Now we can seriously enjoy the tournament, wasnt Pirlo just so cool with the penalty

Posh !!!!!!?????

not forgetting Brockies lodge, Slaters and the Cnoc, just to make the trip more worth while

Doresboy? did he move

peace

drugs

sniff

Lets hope they get Wick Academy in the Scottish Cup. Pity no Shetland teams are allowed in!!

shellfish