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Again i don't understand this. Do you not get enjoyment out of just being at a football ground? I would certainly go to cheer on Ross County if it was a chance for us to win the league, Just as Partick cheered us on at Clyde because they thought they wouldn't be getting relegated. I bet they had a great day out and that was what was probably intended. Watching football on TV has never really entertained me unless it has been ICT that has been playing but at football grounds its completely different, the atmosphere alone makes it much better viewing regardless of who's playing.

I'd rather go watch Embo City and listen to the radio for updates.

You would be gutted if we didn't have a rival team to moan at wouldn't you. The old school fan has to hate their local team with a passion and hope that they go out of business but when it actually happens they have nothing to do apart from actually support your team with no hatred involved anymore making it that little bit more boring for them.

I'd have thought after the merger ICT fans would be a little bit more open on these sort of things. How can you be so anti Ross County in going to matches to see them that could benefit Inverness or to see a highland team take the Scottish Cup. Surely you were as anti Caledonian or anti Thistle as you are today so how did you deal with seeing the two teams together. I'm surprised you actually had the sense to keep supporting ICT. What would you do if County and ICT merged? :P

I very much doubt we will lose fans to Ross County because of this cup final. The only fans that may sway over to the other side will be people that haven't been to any ICT games and experienced the ICT atmosphere. Once you experience that there is no turning back. If it's people that turn to Ross County then its those who haven't given anything back to ICT in turns of gate receipts and merchandise.

Wrong, it has been said in this thread already that youngsters are converting to RC over us already, one of my friends from Ayrshire originally now living here has kids and like most true football supporters he is encouraging his kids to not follow the easy OF route and to choose a local team, they used to be Caley!!!! until yesterday.

Hmmm well surely its those type of fans we don't need at the club.

Aren't you from County territory anyway? I used to live on the black isle a few years ago and its very rare to find ICT fans over that way, especially in schools and i'd say most young kids who do support ICT from over the bridge is down to parents who have encouraged their sons and daughters to take in an ICT match instead of Ross County.

We don't need young, primary aged, fans who have not yet made up their minds about football? Are you mad? We need every fan we can get. Every fan who buys a ticket to ICT or a piece of merchandise makes the club grow stronger.

I'm not saying we don't need them, i'm saying there local team is Ross County, if thats what they've been told by their parents to support then thats their club they will pick. The majority of our support comes from Inverness and the surround areas and its a bonus when we have fans from in County's area but its few and far between unless you have been raised to support ICT.

Just another scenario i have thought of here although i do think this thread has run its course now...

What if County were playing Dundee at Victoria Park on a day where ICT were not playing and if County were to win then ICT would win the league and if Dundee won then they would win the league. Would you go to support County in the hope that they would stop Dundee winning the league?

Would you then go and support County for that game?

No but I would will them on for the reason that it would benefit us.

Take it you don't go to support ICT at Victoria Park eitheir then?

Again i don't understand this. Do you not get enjoyment out of just being at a football ground? I would certainly go to cheer on Ross County if it was a chance for us to win the league, Just as Partick cheered us on at Clyde because they thought they wouldn't be getting relegated. I bet they had a great day out and that was what was probably intended. Watching football on TV has never really entertained me unless it has been ICT that has been playing but at football grounds its completely different, the atmosphere alone makes it much better viewing regardless of who's playing.

I very much doubt we will lose fans to Ross County because of this cup final. The only fans that may sway over to the other side will be people that haven't been to any ICT games and experienced the ICT atmosphere. Once you experience that there is no turning back. If it's people that turn to Ross County then its those who haven't given anything back to ICT in turns of gate receipts and merchandise.

Wrong, it has been said in this thread already that youngsters are converting to RC over us already, one of my friends from Ayrshire originally now living here has kids and like most true football supporters he is encouraging his kids to not follow the easy OF route and to choose a local team, they used to be Caley!!!! until yesterday.

Hmmm well surely its those type of fans we don't need at the club.

Aren't you from County territory anyway? I used to live on the black isle a few years ago and its very rare to find ICT fans over that way, especially in schools and i'd say most young kids who do support ICT from over the bridge is down to parents who have encouraged their sons and daughters to take in an ICT match instead of Ross County.

Just another scenario i have thought of here although i do think this thread has run its course now...

What if County were playing Dundee at Victoria Park on a day where ICT were not playing and if County were to win then ICT would win the league and if Dundee won then they would win the league. Would you go to support County in the hope that they would stop Dundee winning the league?

Would you then go and support County for that game?

Basically it is thus. I don't mind RC doing well in the cup, for ICT will be promoted. Joe Di Maggio has some good points though and it is food for thought.

Do i choose the Highlands over the central belt? Yes. If that makes me prejudiced so be it. Revbirdog, you prefer the central belt or are completely neutral? You want to prove a point by making me out to be prejudiced because i believe there's too much concentration of assets in the central belt, and that there is a disparity. The very fact that SNH is based in the city shows that i'm not the only one. I can't see where your argument on this lies. Yes, i am prejudiced for the highlands. I have a preference for the highlands. I like the highlands more than the central belt. It is what i feel. There are many who prefer the central belt to the highlands. There are many who like them equally.

Let's not get lost in the fact that you despise RC as you have stated over and over, and seem to be fixated on them in an unhealthy way. I cannot foathom out why you have such a venomous hatred towards them, as opposed to the banter that I and most others do. If your response is something to do with my intellectual level, then fine. I'm not above nor below anyone.

This is my point exactly Kirishima, I choose to feel a certain way, I am prejudiced as is every human being on this planet. If we were not to pre judge then the human race would not have been so successful, we would not have been able to judge threats or advantages. I am so venomous towards them because their fanbase would just as soon see ICT go the same way as Gretna, Third Lanark and Ferranti. It annoys me that when they have this attitude our fans would consider going along and offering support to them in their quest to win a trophy, do it for the Highlands but in reality they would love it if their success meant them becoming the only senior club in the Highlands. They already stole a number of the pre-merger fans and I believe they may well steal some of our fans, it pains me to think that our present fans will go ahead and cheer them on towards this.

I very much doubt we will lose fans to Ross County because of this cup final. The only fans that may sway over to the other side will be people that haven't been to any ICT games and experienced the ICT atmosphere. Once you experience that there is no turning back. If it's people that turn to Ross County then its those who haven't given anything back to ICT in turns of gate receipts and merchandise.

The race to 25 is really hotting up now.

Boyd 24, Rooney 24, McAllister 23.

Here's hoping Boyd and Rangers can't score at Tannadice on wed. Brechin are away to Stirling that night as well so if Rory's fit he could also have a chance. My money's on Rooney getting it against Dunfermline though.

I wonder if Rooney himself knows this.

This is all IF's but i have just noticed that for County to catch us we need to lose a game before the Dundee match for them to win the league (if Dundee continue to win their games). Then they would require us and Dundee to draw as either winner of that match would go on to win the league and not Ross County. Therefore i think Ross County along with their huge fixture pileup have even less chance of winning the league now.

I think Queens have a game against Ross County that is on BBC Alba around the 24th. Is this because it is a Tuesday night they are showing it? Just wondering if they have any intentions of showing our game against Dundee on the 1st.

I think the use of the word support is maybe the cause of the unrest. A lot of folk might take in the cup final as it is an occasion. Supporting County could be an option, but I would look at it as a preference rather than 100% backing. I may or may not go to the final, that will be my choice, but at least one of the dominant teams will not win it this year. Would I actually want County to win it? Can't say I would be overly fussed, but I like the underdog, so if they were playing United, then yes, if Raith, then probably yes as well, keep the trophy away from the central belt.

Does that make me a County supporter, no.

Seems the sun has gone to a few heads today, lets all chill and bask in the glory of a fantastic result at Palmerston.

Your better with your words than i am. Thats exactly what i was trying to get across. I am in no means trying to change who i support but would like to see the highland team do well.

All a side a brilliant day for ICT and 3 games to go. Gutted i can't make next weeks match but i'll be there for Ayr in what will hopefully be our league winning match.

Incase anyone hasn't seen it yet.

Thats Pish compaired to the one Harry posted.

Agree, that is pish. I liked the original fake from Harry's post.

I think Smee may have a point in a way. I live in Dornoch now and the amount of "die-hard" C*unty fans that have sprung up here is unbelievable considering most of them were Brora fans during their Highland League years. To an extent it is the same with ICT fans. I know guys in Sutherland who support ICT and have season tickets who are staunch supporters now but before we were a first division team I struggled to find anyone bar myself and my brother who supported ICT, nowadays there are ICT shirts all over the place. This is a good thing but had we still been two Highland league sides then I doubt there would ever be another Caledonian or Thistle shirt to be seen, there might have been one or two C*unty shirts. Glory hunters might be a strong phrase but our success certainly has gained us a few fans we would never have had.

You think that he has a point that fans from 1994 onwards are glory hunters? C'mon! Not another one. Theres thousands of fans that didn't give a monkeys about either sides before the merger but that doesn't mean they start glory hunting from the 3rd division onwards. Its ICT! Not a team to glory hunt over, neither is Aberdeen, Hibs, or Dundee Utd. People who support these teams support them because they love the club. Saying it's because they are a famous 3rd/2nd/1st division side is idiotic.

I'd bet my bottom dollar that SMEE is indeed a very bitter Celtc fan it just oozes out of him .

Well.....a "fan" might be a bit of a stretch...considering i have never made any financial contribution to the club in any from. I have long openly admired their style of play tho. BUT....had it been even Rangers they played today...ad have wanted County to lose!

Right so you follow the same style as my dad, old fashioned and a big caley fan when he was younger but IS a "fan" of the one side of the OF, he doesn't like to call himself a supporter as he doesn't go to any OF games neither buys their merchandise.

Is it the time of the month or something? Why is everybody so angry? Some choose to cheer County on, some don't get over it it's life. I personally think they deserve to be in the final after today's display but will not be cheering them on in the final as I couldn't give a toss who wins.

If County were to lose the final then fine, thats not what i'm asking for here. I'm asking for a day out at the end of the season for the Highlanders. Why not go along to a cup final? Going by the attitudes of a few here that you can only go and watch ICT then most have never been to a national cup final before so why not take one in and support the highlands in the meantime.

But its more than that though, Before County had even scored SMEE had said he didn't want County to win, He is also yet to say he isn't a Celtic fan that is bitter.

I will happily admit that I wanted county hammered too, I am not a bitter Celtic fan. This was the first time I had been rooting for Celtic since I was in second year at school (late 80s if you were wondering). You want to accuse me of anything?

Why the first time since the late 80's? Did you used to support Celtic?

But its more than that though, Before County had even scored SMEE had said he didn't want County to win, He is also yet to say he isn't a Celtic fan that is bitter.

I will happily admit that I wanted county hammered too, I am not a bitter Celtic fan. This was the first time I had been rooting for Celtic since I was in second year at school (late 80s if you were wondering). You want to accuse me of anything?

It oozes out of Smee not you, Your opinion was valid but for Smee to say that fans from 16 years ago and onwards are glory hunters is unacceptable.

bIRDY...i think you and i are cut from the same cloth as far as our old fashioned footballing values are concerned. The MAJORITY of the ICT support have NO previous experience regarding supporting football in INverness before the merger. I guess we just have to accept that they have little understanding of what that all meant, and that we have carried over our attitudes to supporting ICT! But we can hold our heads up...as we were the ones supporting our local teams when most of the Inverness supporting folk chose not to!

Birdy & SMEE- Im with you on this one, much as i wanted County to beat Celtic; cos i fck*ing hate the OF and their arrogant followers, i'd never support County in the final, Highlanders or not.

But its more than that though, Before County had even scored SMEE had said he didn't want County to win, He is also yet to say he isn't a Celtic fan that is bitter.

18 games unbeaten, unbelieveable. Not only are we unbeaten though these days we are recording straight victories!

Its surprising that we have more season ticket holders this season than last season though isn't it. That doesn't seem like glory hunting to me. I honestly can't believe you think your a god just because you used to watch a highland league team thats make it big. We are all supporters of ICT whether it was before the merger or not. Your attitude sucks.

Says they, preparing to go and support their other team at the scottish cup final! Oh....and where did i suggest i was a "god". I merely pointed out...that UNLIKE the overwhelming majority of ICT fans...i was supporting local football when many chose not to!

You didn't suggest you were a god, your acting like a god. Your downing hundreds of ICT fans is well, if not thousands as the 2500 you stated earlier. Not the correct way to go about things. If you don't want to go and support a local highland league team in a national scottish cup final then fine but i don't understand the need to dig at our "new" fans of 16 years. The sooner the attitude of fans like yourself are gone the better.

Already got mine through the post for Section G. Anyone else going for Butchers bandage?

Bob did you take a liking to Pele's book? I for one now know not to bet big.

Thats complete nonsense, Your saying that the 2500 that you speak of (which is now the majority) are glory hunters? You think that more than half of our support are glory hunters?

Well...the drop in the ICT support from what we got in the SPL would seem to suggest we are not short of fairweather fans!

I knew you would come out with the Kids argument....but you have to remember...for everyone thats born...one dies. So...it evens itself out. Fact is....where was these Inverness "football fans" back in the day when it was just Highland League on offer? To try and argue that the attendance increases have nothing to do with the level ICT are now playing at is rediculous! And they will further increase next season IF we find ourselves in the SPL!

Its surprising that we have more season ticket holders this season than last season though isn't it. That doesn't seem like glory hunting to me. I honestly can't believe you think your a god just because you used to watch a highland league team thats make it big. We are all supporters of ICT whether it was before the merger or not. Your attitude sucks.

Rooney 24 goals this season

Terry.........SIGN HIM UP NOW

He's already signed up for another year luckily

GREAT.

Only dundee can stop us now

C*unty can too!

County can catch us but if they win all their games in hand they'll be 4 points behind us. Meaning we need to lose twice or lose and draw in our last 3 matches. NO CHANCE!

SURELY the league is ours now :006: Pitty Dundee didn't drop any points today but i really thought Queens was our toughest opponents left. Guess we have to go out and do it against the pars next week though. Lets win it in Ayr!

I get the impression you think fans after the merger are of less quality than pre merger fans. I don't understand what difference there is between a support from before and after.

Well.....how many ICT fans supported Inverness football back in the day? I did....I didnt just hop on board and decide i was going to start supporting local football coz it was a higher level of football we were seeing.....unlike the majority of our support. You cant argue with facts......ICT hs about 2500 more fans now than Caley and Thistle combined did..so...what were they all doing on match days when there were local teams needing their support? So to me....the likes of Birdy, myself and others of that ilk were more "fans" of football. If you cant see that...then...theres nothing left to say

Thats complete nonsense, Your saying that the 2500 that you speak of (which is now the majority) are glory hunters? You think that more than half of our support are glory hunters? I think you need a lesson in how the modern world lives and stop living in the old days. A good percent of our support were too young to support either Caledonian or Thistle and when i go to away days its the youth i see out in force making the noise to lift the team, so are they glory hunters just because they weren't around to see a team that wasn't as successful as ICT? Its not their fault.