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Funny that - My missus is also giving up her ticket which she has had since 2004/5 season as much because she can't handle the cold weather but she also hasn't enjoyed this season as much

My wife doesn't want a season ticket this year. Perhaps the club should special deals on season tickets for WAGs.

Never mind that. Special beer/whisky prices at the stadium for poor lonely deserted husbands! :drinking04:

Shame its only given 3 weeks to get the early bird prices as to find several hundreds of pounds for mum dad and the kids needs a bit more time and I don't think too many people save it over the season knowing they only have 2 weeks after the season ends to get next seasons, A little more time would have been beneficial to most I would imagine.

Totally agree ridiculous length of time, other clubs had theirs out weeks ago. I can only think that they were waiting to see what division we were going to be in before announcing anything.

My wife has decided that after 4 seasons she will be not renewing her season ticket, prob just show face at the County games. That decision is partly cos she has found herself enjoying it less and less over this season and partly because she doesn't want to spend every second Saturday away from our wee girl (and TBH it's a right pain to find a babysitter so often). I probably will attend as a loner so long as she drops me off at The Club to get a few beers before heading over! Though if it wasn't for the County games it would have been touch and go. Here's to a better 2012/13 season!

BTW if anyone wants my £5 voucher thay can have it, no way I'd buy another piece of Errea junk!

EDIT- Spelling (as usual!)

I voted no. I can only really mirror the views of others in that why should I pay more of my moderate income to pay for the mistakes of those at Rangers? I'm already paying plenty of taxes to bail out bankers who are still coining it in, so no thanks I'd rather spend the money on my daughter. That said I would not be averse to volunteering a bit of time to ICT if that helped as I have done in the past with snow clearing etc.

3036 I think.

And breathe......... !

A. Shinnie and Sutherland on for Ross and G. Shinnie

IIRC he was the same guy who said something along the lines of 'Meekings has done more in 5 minutes than Munro in his whole career' so TBH I wouldn't pay much heed to anything he says. Utter WUM/Troll.

Forgot to take my medicine / in the throws of puberty and angry at the world type post IMO.

Yeah I had the news page thing but now it goes straight to the forum list which is a bonus. However once I go into a forum and click on a thread it just gives me a black page that I can strangely still scroll up and down in. If I scroll to the top the thread loads up and I can see it normally! Weird. Also if I refresh the page from the blank screen more often than not the thread then loads up. But never the 1st time I click it from the list of threads on the forum page. I've recently updated my Android version from 3. something (gingerbread) to 4.0.3 (Ice Cream Sandwich) so I don't know it this has caused the issue or if it's the site (or a combination) I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S2. Should prob have put this in the Support forum!

"Rangers & Celtic basically finance the Scottish game" FFS, the arrogance of some. Rangers can't even finance themselves!

Putting aside this whole 'professional' thing. Yet again the whole support issuse raises it's head. I made a post several months ago almost identical to the one I'm about to make but here goes again.

I don't understand why some people get lambasted and told they are not supporting the team for voicing their unhappiness in certain aspects of this season. If people are unhappy then surley venting their opinions and issues on an internet forum if perfectly appropriate. These same people can then still go to the games and wholeheartedly support the team. I have been unhappy with many aspects of this season and yet my wife and I still make all the home games some away games, clap, (sometimes) sing and do our best to get behind the team. If I dare to criticise TB or his decisions on a website am I not supporting the team?

In a nutshell I find it rather arrogant to say that some people do not support the team if all they are doing is voicing their opinions. I mean look at how many people walked out after the second Aberdeen goal went in, are all thise people only proclaiming to be supporters?

The missus and I support one another but we don't always agree!

You know some could interpret your post as racism...just saying.

In that case, 'some' people would need to get a grip.

Maybe Grant and Russel didn't want him there?

He was invited.

On a slightly different note I found it quite interesting that in his speech given before the meals in hospitality Mr Sutherland said that although he makes a point of not interfering with the managers decisions it was a massive mistake to release Munro and he didn't agree with it. Was quite surprised that he came out and said that publicly, would have made it even more interesting if Butcher was there!

Edit- Spelling, Doh!

Who was the number 2 that came on in the second half? McCuish? McLeish or something?

Neil MacCuish, used to play for Clach and is Grant's best mate, was filling in for someone who dropped out. Did well considering what he drunk the night before!

I'm sure the guys won't mind me passing on a huge thank you to everyone who helped make yesterday a very special day for them and all the fans who's support throughout has been fantastic. Well done all! :D

As folk have said poor show but I don't think the lads were too bothered! Well done to Scott Kellacher tho for masterminding the best home ICT performance in some time. ;)

Dunno about Terry but I believe mo is away on a course.

Correct, Malpas was on a course that was pre-booked, Butcher however chose not to show up.

4-0 FT, best home performance I've seen in a good while.

Wyness 4-0!

Tokes gets his second 3-0!

Will Terry Butcher be showing his face?

No apparently he will not!

all that butcher can account for is the tactics on a match day. not giving away soft penalties, not missing easy chances and not players getting sent off.

has been one of the most inconsistent seasons weve ever had. and personally id put that down to injuries. butcher hasnt been able to pick the same team over and over like last season or the season before which ultimatly led to a great promotion push and our joint highest league finish.

so i dont see how bringing in a new manager or management team would help matters i agree with pele if thing are worse next season then it should be cosidered but for me that would depend on injury situation and what butcher does with his resources then.

remember last time butcher was under pressure and we stuck with him. when we were in mid table obscurity in the 1st division. he got us promoted. ive alway taken pride in the fact that we done that and im also proud that butcher is the longest serving manager in the spl.

stick with him through the hard times and the good times will come

Here's my view on it again realy can't be bothered putting any effort into posting on this thread again it's so tedious hearing the same old sh*t from the same old people

Much of what you say is true enough re: refs, injuries etc however that isn't really the whole picture, some of the damage was done before the season even began! Butcher took us from playing poorly/relegation and turned the team around and helped us to promotion and then to a good 7th place finish. But now he seems have gone backward and even taking into account our unusually large injury list we have still been very poor. He is somewhat responsible for players missing easy chances, poor defending within the team as the players that are failing are the players that he has brought in and deemed them good enough for the team. The players have to take some resposibility too of course as they have been poor also, some of the players today (and in other games recently) looked like they couldn't make a 10 yard pass accurately! I was also sad to see that the starting line up did not include one Scot, too many journeymen brought in going through the motions perhaps who don't play for the badge?

I think people are angry not only with results but possibly more so with the manner of our defeats, which has happened quite often this season. In a good number of games we have created heaps of chances without scoring any, then the other team goes up and scores with their one shot on target. That sort of failures are not about injuries that's a lack of concentration, organisation, ability and desire (and utterly stupid individual errors) IMO for which both players and manager must take responsibility. I personally don't really want butcher out (at least not yet) but that's probably more to do with the fact that I can't think of anyone better offhand TBH.

You may be tired of hearing the same old sh*t, but by the sounds of it (and the look of the stands before the end today) a great deal of people, not just a few are tired of paying their hard earned to watch the same old sh*t.

Hope this makes sense I've had a few drams lol!

Looking forward to this after the dross on show today, hopefully it will be an entertaining match. 1st time in hospitality (hope the meal is decent) so it should be fun, think I'll be hitting the bar in the Kingsmills suite tho after today's efforts.

He's here till next season at least, may as well see what he does in the close season and how it pans out up till Christmas. We can't afford to buy him out and I'd be quite surprised if he walked. He has made bad decisions at the end of last season and was ill prepared at the beginning of this one, there never seemed to be a plan and you got the impression he was just winging it at times. Other things like dropping some players at the drop of a hat while others could be convicted of mass murder and still get a start; playing folk out of position; bizarre substitutions; the same repeated after match comments, failure to learn from his mistakes (and admit his own errors) etc etc. Injuries have played a big part to be fair, hopefully we won't have to go through a season with as many again.

He's far from perfect but he's what we have for the foreseeable future so I guess we have to try and hope for the best! What else is there?