STFU

Glad to see people posting. Thought the site must have gone into lockdown as a mark of respect as a post of mine disappeared from last week and no other content was appearing. Disagree. The reason the world's in such a mess is because we keep pandering to/catering for the lowest common denominator and knuckle draggers.

They are also advertising for an accounts assistant. Does that mean Mavor is also leaving or do they think we need additional people to count all the money we don't have?

May I be the first to wish Keith all the best for the future. I wonder if we might get someone without a Dundee or Rangers FC connection in to replace him?

Echo what RiG said. Raith Rovers were as bad as Morton, but we got a bit of good fortune with a penalty which lifted our heads for the final push and the second goal. We weren't tested in any fashion, but we at least came away with a result and a clean sheet. It definitely wasn't any great shifts in terms of a turnaround in performance and there's was no change in the underlying tactics. We can have no complaints about the injury list or the effects of it. We sign players with a known history of injuries and don't sign players to cover in positions where we have existing long term injuries.

It's not the defeat that was disappointing, it was the manner in which it happened.

I heard CaleyD has claimed it and will be sticking it on Facebook Marketplace for £1000.

Post match comments from Dodds are absolutely delusional, and again there's not the lightest consideration to the fact that our biggest issue is our setup and tactics. Comment previously about how off field events might be effecting players I think are correct. As in any work place, when the company appears to be in trouble, the staff start to worry and it effects performance. Especially hard to ask staff to work hard(er) when the bosses are bringing things down around their ears. If/when the sh*t hits the fan, it's not the CEO and Sporting Director who will be expected to take pay cuts or be transferred off somewhere else. There comes a time, and I think we are there, when the players must wonder what the point is of busting a gut when they're being asked to play in a way that is clearly not working, for a club that's self harming and jeopardising everything.

I'd take a 9-0 defeat in this one if it forced some changes.

Given the extent of the nepotism at the club just now, I imagine Bully Dodds, Robbo and Gardiner would all need to be "asked to leave" together. You could probably throw Wilson in to that as well, or might he be seen as the cheap option replacement? I imagine it's all pretty academic as all of the above would need pay offs and we don't have a pot to **** in.

I've stuck a tenner on with Paddy at 6/1 for more than 4.5 goals tonight.

Not that John Brown, it might be better if it was! I meant the John Brown that is Scot Gardiner's business partner in their separate events company called The Longest Forty. I wonder if they are due money from the concert company?

I think you should buy them a mirror and have it put up on the dressing room door. They'd have no option but to look at themselves then!

Ach, let it go. Fans don't want to believe it when those charged with looking after the club get up to ludicrous nonsense that threatens to do it harm, and sometimes it sounds so ridiculous that it's impossible to believe until more legit sources than some stranger on the internet presents them. There's more worrying comments on this thread, such as those hinting that it might have been ok to run up huge debts so long as it was artists and the like who will suffer the loss. It's that kind of attempts at justification that leave the door open for people capable of these things to get a foot in to begin with.

Just listened to Dodds interview and it makes me really uncomfy. First off, talk about being men etc. has no place in modern society, how about you just ask them to be footballers!! If they want a demonstration on how to fight for results week in week out, may I suggest they head along and watch our women's team? It also all seems to be about how older players didn't lead enough and young players were getting overwhelmed, the referee decisions, the phase of the moon and the colour of the grass. At no point did he even consider that he might have got the tactics wrong.

Brechin will be delighted with that draw.

Given the level of losses, they'd have needed almost twice as many ticket sales to just break even. As the stadium would not have held those numbers, then it could be argued that the root cause was the costs. Low ticket sales just compounded the issue. They 100% were the production company. There would be no need for them to exist otherwise.

I was quite excited by the opening 10 mins or so of the game when we had a handful of decent attacking opportunities, but then the bottom fell out of everything. Samuels started using his pace to run into walls and I'd said to the couple sitting next to me that he was going to get himself injured moments before he went down the first time. By mid way through the first half it was obvious something was wrong, not just with the tactics, but with the team. They were niggling at each other, uncommitted in the challenge and generally looked like they would rather be sunning themselves at the beach than playing football. Even more frustrating was that Morton were awful. I lost count of the number of times they passed directly to one of our players or played a ball into space where they didn't have anyone making a move, but we did nothing to capitalise on that. Dodds plays the cheery chappy card a lot, but sometimes players need a reality rocket. The whole pamper and cuddle players and you'll get the best out of them doesn't wash with me, and the expectation that fans shouldn't show their discontent is all part of how soft society is getting on everything. When nobody is making themselves accountable, then discipline and hard work go out the window. FWiW, I think this is a culture that is feeding down from the very top at ICTFC. Strap in, because the club have boxed themselves in on all sides and it's going to be a long hard season on and off the park.

It's all very confusing because it's the same people representing the concert company as are representing the club. The ICT Concert Company ARE the production company and what they are saying is that the Directors didn't put enough controls in place to stop those running things going over budget (the same directors who help control the club budget!). As is my understanding, those running things being Scot Gardiner, the same Scot Gardiner who is CEO of ICTFC, and his sidekick John Brown. Yes, "that" John Brown, and even he was using a club email address. Feels like Keith Haggart might be the person getting thrown to the wolves here whilst the ICTFC Chairman and Concert Company Director, Ross Morrison remains in hiding and Scot Gardiner runs around kicking up as much ****, dust and confusion as he can so that people can't really see what's going on to cover his ass. They can spin all the "separate company" BS they like, but as far as those owed money will be concerned, they are one and the same. We're only seeing the tip of this and it could turn out to be the biggest shitfest the club has ever been subjected to.

Draws are effectively worthless to anyone other than managers who rely on them to hold onto their jobs when not clocking up wins and they choose to highlight that they only have a small number of losses.

I take it we're not shouting for this thread to be removed or hidden any more?

Thank you

Can you shout a bit louder as I don't think they heard you at the back!

A bit of a risk for any club given that he has multiple medical conditions.