gillian black

None at present, however I have a daughter who loves him, (though he has a partner at this present time), so you never know, why do you ask?

Proof is what is lacking, so both stories have no substance. Maybe this thread should be moved to the rumour mill? Well the topic is kinda based on a story from a statement released by the club wich on BBC sport. Therefore its not a rumour but speculation of a published story. Although to slander anyone (ie Grassa) at this stage is something we have been kindly asked by board admin (ie Scotty) not to do. Unless he (Grassa) is shown to be incompetent then we are not supposed to say otherwise. Although technically we could say the inactivity makes him look totally incompetent. Which it does. And if a DoF was to take a holiday mid season it reeks of non professionalism. What would we say if a manager or player did likewise. I was being sarcastic when I said Tenerife, but I was not when I said he was away on holisay, the meeting was cancelled because he was away on holiday, dont we have a right to an answer, why dont we just pop down the road, make an appointment with Grassa and ask him, or cant we do a copy or remake of A FEW GOOD MEN, me being Tom Cruise and get our side kicks to check the airline flight tickets, this would be all the proof we need, if anyone can tell me where to go and get the proof, I will do it personally and you are spot on IT DOES REEK OF NON PROFESSIONLISM. All jokes aside, as this is not really funny, we are bad at the moment, so any improvement would be welcome, and I might smile a bit more, if I knew Blackie was tied up for the next 4 years (to us), it would be a start, he has said he wants to stay, so why are we not getting our a**** in gear?

By definition "emolument" implies Grassa has to work damn hard for it, could it possibly be travelling expenses and accomodation while on company business? I don't know. Very few know and why should we! ;) Someone is lying, ask yourself who will still be here in a couple of seasons and is more likely to lose face if they lied. :018: What non-footballing income streams do we have? A car boot sale? :thumb04: Glass half empty here too. Blackie is quoted in the P & J today as saying he has had one offer, and through my source, it has been told to me the offer was made only weeks ago and this was at BREWS insistance, the story goes, they were concentrating on Cowie, thought they had plenty of time to tie up the others, F***** Joke, Grassa at his best. So who was it telling the Porkies, I can tell you honestly, and I believe my mate, Blackie was not lying when he gave his statement, THE CLUB HAD NOT APPROACHED HIM, the agent was coming up, only to be cancelled, because Grassa was away on his HOLS, another F***** Jke, but is this not the story of or lives, he is stating today, he wants to stay, does anyone know if Grassa flew to Tenerife today, that would be par for the course, again the story of our lives.

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I have to agree IN PART, the board WILL have realised their mistake by now, BLACKIE< COWIE ....WILL....go in January and NOT at the end of the season, prospective clubs WILL put their offers in to take them away in January, and because we have F***** up YET again (Bennet), we will have to sell for a fraction of their worth, so where does this leave us then, dont tell me, I already know,oh and if it is not the DOF's fault then who's is it, he deals with the contracts, and if his strings are being pulled or reigned in, then dont we have a right to know.? Gillian I hope you are wrong about them both going in Jan, but I have a horrible feeling you may be right , if this does happen it will be a disaster for the club, losing our 2 biggest assest for next to nothing Stevico1, I am gutted, but the reality is this is what is going to happen, it is in their eyes the only way they can re coup some money, it is a joke and someone MUST be made to take responsibility, we need answers, they are two off our best players, and we do need them, their mistakes are no longer funny or acceptable, but what can we do, NOTHING, where will we be next season, certainly not in the league we are in at present, it beggars belief that they or should I say the board, because I know that even with the issues Brew and Blackie had Brew is no daft cookie, he knows what he has in these two players, and that he needs them, his hands are tied, and that in itself is sad, someone ANYONE needs to stand up and give answers, can I say, even if we dont like the answer, the answer would be better than the not knowing the reason at all, this is MY opinion, and I am not getting at anyone else.

sorry mftj couldnt find a hug will that do?? we are talking about a legend here and why hasnt he been a coach through no fault of his own I am sure, who would you rather as a coach shearer or wilson, aside from that he has still got a lot to offer as a player IMHO Stevico1, I can give you the answer to that, they cant give him a coaching role, as he would show Brew up, he is a good person as well as a player, and possibly coach, he has the respect and support of the players, whilst great for him imagine the problems this would cause for Brew and his side kicks.

I have to agree IN PART, the board WILL have realised their mistake by now, BLACKIE< COWIE ....WILL....go in January and NOT at the end of the season, prospective clubs WILL put their offers in to take them away in January, and because we have F***** up YET again (Bennet), we will have to sell for a fraction of their worth, so where does this leave us then, dont tell me, I already know,oh and if it is not the DOF's fault then who's is it, he deals with the contracts, and if his strings are being pulled or reigned in, then dont we have a right to know.?

Just what exactly is Bennet doing?! Unbelievable. On the 1st of January, Balckie will be able to speak to other clubs with a view to leaving for free in the summer. Will someone else make him an offer before we do? To those suggesting that a lack of finances may be the stumbling block - Ian Black, in the from that he's currently showing, is one of biggest financial assets the club has. To risk losing him for nothing makes no financial or footballing sense. What the **** is going on? Brewster knows what he's doing. :thumb04: I am not a Brew fan as everyone knows , however this time I dont believe the fault lies with him, though saying he knows what he is doing maybe pushing it just a tad too far, but back to basics, the fault lies with Bennet, and has been said previously, he has failed misserably either way, 1. we should have had Blackie tied up long ago, lets face it , we need him he is an asset, 2. or we should be getting money for him, either way Bennet has f***** up, and that is plain for everyone to see. So can anyone tell me where we go from here as we look to be loosing all the key players who are the neucleaus of the team? (spell check not working)

I believe i said this in or around October, feckin pathetic, get rid of bennet and pay his wage to the boys we need to keep.

IHE, I couldn/t have put it better myself, loved it, all of it.

cant find it, but then not great on this machine, can you put the web sight on here so I can get a look

? why wee Blackie, he was taken off, so didnt play 90mins so deserves less points, though taking him off was a bad idea, Killi scored after that, it opened the game up for them, but that is another thread, no its not setanta it is STV, Esson and Vigurs were by far 2 of the best but this didnt meet with what was on TV, does this answer your comments.

after the game the players are given a rating or score out of 10 by someone, what I am asking is who gives the scores to the S.T.V. to put on the screen, is it STV themselves or is it one of our management, I am asking because the scoring on tv and the scoring in the papers etc are to say vastly contrary is putting it mildly.

Can anyone tell me .... Who gives the lads the scores on the game, I know it isnt Brew.

Are you serious, and I quote "2 of his best performances", is that all that is required of the players, never mind the other dozen or so where he was posted missing, listen to yourself, I cant believe i am even answering this, what I will give you is Why NOT play him ? we are continuing to do what we always do, NOTHING, and going with what we have, because we dont look for anything better, Finances, Whatever, Bronson, I dont believe I have ever answered one of your quotes, but because tempers are flaring at the moment and mine included I think we should just agree to disagree, for me 2 good games isnt enough, for you that maybee the case, but not for me.

IME okay I agree in most, but, Blackie is the BEST playmaker we have, as he reads the game, Vigurs has the potential to be a Great player, but reading the game is something that is in them, I dont believe this comes with experience, and im not sure Vigurs has this ability, I hope he has because with a football brain and good skill as we see in Blackie he (Vigurs) could become even greater. Duncan struggles in the playmaker role, so why does Brew insist in playing him in this role, it beggars belief, but do me a favour, watch the passing between or from Duncan to Black, he WONT pass to him, However, as Brew, Malky and the team will have read this this morning, they will change it today. Proctor I believe should be playing Right Back, drop Tokety, one game in around 15 dosnt do it for me. My midfield would be Wilson, Cowie, Black, Vigurs and Imrie, put a forward in front of that.??????? What about Liam Buchanan, I know I keep on about him, but he is almost back to his best, scoring goals, we had him up when CC was in charge, IME we are continuing to discuss this and come January it wont make a difference, we will have to take Black out of the equasion as he wont be here, we have offered him nothing, so what would be your line up then,

IHE I dont often disagree with you but Duncan is good at breaking up play, HOWEVER he then gives the feckin ball back to the opposition. so what is the worst of two evils, Play or Benched? Best midfield Duo for me is (at present) Duncan and Black though Duncan wont even pass to Blackie, (cant believe im saying this)but what I do agree with is in the future Blackie and Vigurs, he is not a seasoned player yet, but this will come, he needs more experience, unfortunatly the only way to get this is by playing, catch 22, we dont have the luxury of beeing that far up the table we can put our inexperienced players in and out at will.

Doesn't Bennet over see contract negotiations? It is my belief that this is a large part of his remit, he hasnt got a clue, i am also led to believe CB has asked Black if they have spoken to him or his agent, to which he has replied, NO, so what does this tell us, I cant believe this is happening, Blackie, Cowie etc will be away at Xmas or at least they will be committed to other clubs by January, due to the fact that they feel demoralised, angry, frustrated, p***** off, to the extent if i'm not wanted i'll go elsewhere, they need to look out for their families etc, many of the quotes I believe are spot on this should have been tied up long ago, or money made from them moving, personality clashes or not, the boys are doing their bit on the park what is Bennet doing, sweet F A, i too have said Brew needs to go, but it goes deeper than that, the rest have to go first, then maybe Brew would improve. Once again ICT will suffer because of the idiots at the top of the tree.

Esson Proctor-Duff-Munro-Hastings- Wilson-Cowie-Black-Vigurs-Imrie- Rooney- Duncan could do with a rest, until he figures out what game he is playing, I believe he thinks he is playing basketball, the amount of times he steps back, and raises his arms and the opposition just brushes him aside, Brew wants to tell him it is a contact sport, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO TACKLE. Tokley as I said previosly deserves a LONG rest,

Duff and Munro look to be a good pairing, Duff to me is the all round player, both defensively and football wise. Munro could learn from Duff in the footballing sence, because I have to say it becomes tedious watching him launch the ball with no direction, and lets face it this is week in week out (good defender). Tokleys inconcistency, requires him to receive a well deserved (long) rest. Proctor, could and should be filling this gap.

We played a 4-5-1 not a 4-4-2 I did notice that Imrie pushed further up in the middle when not running down the wing. He was, as I could see, the support striker for Wood I have kept a wee eye on that striker Liam Buchanan, coming back from injury and scoring again, could do an excellent job for us, and blackie could help out here as they are pals, trained and played for blackies dad when they were youngsters, now there is a thought Blackies dad?, let me find out more and ill get back.

Esson Proctor--Duff--Munro--McBain Blackie Wilson--Cowie-Viguars--Imrie Rooney Munro surounded with football players with a bit off luck he will use them,and not his usual (one wood with length and no direction) Left Foot!!!!!! Subs:-Barrowman,Wood,Hastings,Zander,Fraser,Duncan and any other PERSON!!

Seems the reporter is saying one thing, but the actual quotes from Brewster say something else ..... journalistic license at its most blatant ..... or maybe reporter making conclusions about off the record comments perhaps? Esson Tokely Duff Munro McBain Cowie Black Duncan Vigurs Imrie Rooney Subs: Fraser, Djebi-Zadi, Hastings, Wilson, Zander, Wood, Barrowman

People say "There is such a thing as blind loyalty", before today it often confused me, the realisation has hit me today, this is it, Cant believe I am answering this!

cant tell you yet, remember that polling doesnt close until 7 days after the match, which would have been yesterday, and you need to give Don a few days to calculate the scores. thanks for that, what about the flybee result