gillian black

Trust me you can believe it, he wasn't told he wouldn't be playing, and because he felt he had been consistent in previous games, asked why , only to be ignored, to say tempers then flared, I believe would be putting it mildly, I think Blackie felt used and abused, if CB wanted to leave him out to get a better fee, then could he not have used the man management skills he has (joke) and given Blackie an explanation? it would have saved a lot of grief, and if what im told is true a heafty fine as well. I believe Blackie then tried to talk to him again by asking to speak to him in private, only to be told NO, this is when Blackie erupted, but this was done in private with no one around, he basically told Brew what he thought, so was dropped again. Will he play in the next round, if he is selected, then YES, but dont bet on him being selected, because the board are aware he says it as it is, and i dont think Bennet likes him either, so even although we need him, it wont happen, but again, why dont we just ask him, he has the guts to say it as it is, :thumb04: :018: I suppose he is the only one that can do the talking as he has already decided his future is elsewhere you are usually quite accurate stevie, however i know you know blackie better than that, he cares passionatly about the game and ICT, and has a football brain, he challenges things he dosn't like, albeight he is young so probably goes about it the wrong way, but its because he cares and not because he is leaving us for pastures new, if this was the case, he would never have been training with the reservs. Wasnt saying that as a slant on Blackie more how the other players couldnt put there point of view out sorry stevie, but you know and i know aint gona happen

Trust me you can believe it, he wasn't told he wouldn't be playing, and because he felt he had been consistent in previous games, asked why , only to be ignored, to say tempers then flared, I believe would be putting it mildly, I think Blackie felt used and abused, if CB wanted to leave him out to get a better fee, then could he not have used the man management skills he has (joke) and given Blackie an explanation? it would have saved a lot of grief, and if what im told is true a heafty fine as well. I believe Blackie then tried to talk to him again by asking to speak to him in private, only to be told NO, this is when Blackie erupted, but this was done in private with no one around, he basically told Brew what he thought, so was dropped again. Will he play in the next round, if he is selected, then YES, but dont bet on him being selected, because the board are aware he says it as it is, and i dont think Bennet likes him either, so even although we need him, it wont happen, but again, why dont we just ask him, he has the guts to say it as it is, :018: I suppose he is the only one that can do the talking as he has already decided his future is elsewhere you are usually quite accurate stevie, however i know you know blackie better than that, he cares passionatly about the game and ICT, and has a football brain, he challenges things he dosn't like, albeight he is young so probably goes about it the wrong way, but its because he cares and not because he is leaving us for pastures new, if this was the case, he would never have been training with the reservs. no its not, but we will have to wait and see, if they are big enough or as some would say stupid enough (threat of being dropped like Blackie) to come out and say who they are.

Agreed, however, some people are idiots, they believe what they want to believe, I wonder who started these stupid rumours, but spot on with dods, and I believe we can expect the same off Blackie, the sad thing is, is he is surrounded with egotistical maniacs who can see no further than their own erses, no prizes for who I mean.

agree entirely, and blackie if you are reading this, TAKE THE ADVICE, play for us, and ICT f*** Brewster, he is as said nothing but a muppet, rise above him.

IHE, Blackie can only show us what he can do if picked for the squad, why are we allowing Brew to do this to us, he didn't even inform Blackie of the drop, and when Blackie asked why, he was ignored, when he asked again, the fell out , only for Blackie to be fined, again, he is angry at not being given the chance to play, he wants to play, if he had been given a half decent offer to stay, believe me he would have, he loves the game, he dosn't really care who the manager is, he just wants to play, I don't often disagree with you and for the most of this post I agree, but not wanting to play, I can't agree with that, it will be interesting to see what happens on Saturday, don't you think.? I am told, he was lack lustre because he KNEW he wasn't going to get on, abd a few posts back hit the nail on the head, it is Brews way of humiliating him, and the fans just added to it, he is in poor spirits just now though

Wouldn't you like to know, Not yet my friend, but soon, but do me a favour next time think first., question what you hear,

Oh now, now, now that it has come out dont you feel a little contrite as my wife says, you were insinuating, that it was true, or wern't you, if not I stand corrected. Fact: To answer it all, he has showed his commitment throughout, every time he is on the park, as to the fall outs with Brew, the last one was last Sunday, BEFORE the game, he was angry at not even being involved, he asked the manager why, as he felt he has been consistent throughout, only to be ignored, he couldn't even answer him, so what is going on, I believe Brew is letting us down badly, as his ego has again taken a huge dent, yet again, Brews reasoning behind t could be that there is ongoing talks with hearts. Whatever the reason, Blackie is still here, and our best or one of our best midfielders,his tactical brain, his passing and reading of the game far exceeds brews anyway so why not use it.

hahahahaha! OH DONT GET ME WRONG, IT WASN'T MEANT, DONT BELIEVE GILLI IS THAT BRAVE, BUT YES A FACT, IT DID HAPPEN IN TRAINING, AND BLACK WAS AVAILABLE TO PLAY, AND WASN'T TOLD HE WAS NOT PLAYING OR EVEN BEING CONSIDERED, I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT KICKED NOFF THE ARGUEMENT, BUT WHY DONT WE ASK THE ELUSIVE BOARD OR EVEN BREW OR BETTER STILL BLACKIE HIMSELF TO CLARIFY.

Thast also what i heard. Was being abusive to the someone in the pub when asked about his caley future and generally causing a disturbance in the pub, saying how he wants to leave, and cant be arsed playing for Brester (understandable) then someone told him he should still play for the club, as he still has a contract, Black then proceded to kick up a fuss, and the guy lamped him one. Thats your big hero whos 100% committed to the cause!! But who knows could all be untrue!!!! OH i KNOW WHERE HE GOT THE SHINER, WHY DON'T YOU ASK GILLESPIE, HE DID IT AT TRAINING, AS TO THE HEATHMOUNT AND MOUTHING OFF, SHYTE, I CAN TELL YOU THE ONLY ARGUEMENTS OR FIGHTS HE HAS HAD IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS HAVE BEEN WITH BREW, DO I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT, YES, AND AM I HIS BIGGEST FAN? ONE OFF THEM. YES. BUT I AM A BIGGER FAN OF ICT AND BIG ENOUGH TO WANT THE BEST TO PLAY FOR AS LONG AS WE HAVE HIM. CAUSING A DISTURBANCE? BULLSHYTE, BUT IF IT WAS EVEN REMOTLY TRUE THEN DONT WE NEED THE FIRE ON THE PARK, NEVER KNOWN BLACK TO BE IN TROUBLE OFFFFFF THE PARK, HAS ANYONE ELSE.

HIS COMMITMENT IN QUESTION, that much BREW and him still fall out when blackie tells him there is a problem, and knows he will be dropped, but continues to say anyway. I DONT THINK SO, he is as commited to ICT now as he was at the beginning, we need him to stay up SO BREW, BOARD WHO EVER IF READING THIS USE THE SKILLS WE HAVE TO BETTER OUR CHANCES AND GET RID OF YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS AND EGO, AT THE MOMENT YOUR EGO IS COSTING US DEARLY. HIS COMMITMENT IN QUESTION, that much BREW and him still fall out when blackie tells him there is a problem, and knows he will be dropped, but continues to say anyway. I DONT THINK SO, he is as commited to ICT now as he was at the beginning, we need him to stay up SO BREW, BOARD WHO EVER IF READING THIS USE THE SKILLS WE HAVE TO BETTER OUR CHANCES AND GET RID OF YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS AND EGO, AT THE MOMENT YOUR EGO IS COSTING US DEARLY. oh stevie if only you knew how close to the truth you are, blackie says it as it is, and to everyone, and that includes himself, one day though, and believe me its not far away. trust me HE DIDN'T DODGE BEING CUP TIED, CAN YOU ADD UP, WAS THIS NOT PART OF THE FALL OUT WITH BREW, TIME WILL TELL. GETTING NEARER, HOWEVER NOT THE WHOLE SCENARIO, I KNOW HE WOULD I also heard that. If that is true why was he even in the squad ? EXACTLY, AND TRUST ME I KNOW THIS IS SHYTE,

so you have awakened, thank god.

now, now,

Cant, but oh I would love too, what do you know about talking back and fined???????

Oh no it wasn't, and no he wont be away, but I think you maybe right, he wont be playing. Wont happen, still be here but I can bet NOT playing. Exactly,

Please, Please, Please

Why? He is still an ICT player and great things happened today, we managed without him! However with him we could have done even better, they put Duncan in his place, we have to be honest he's no Blackie, if we have him for how ever long, then we need to use him. As to the loss of his spark, I cannot agree with this, but the resons for this I believe will soon become obvious, why didn't he play today? I know he was available.

I noticed that. It suggests that either we are stopping him from being cup-tied because we are hoping to work out some deal with Hearts to allow him to leave now, or that Brew is being pig-headed. Pig headed is not the words I would use, but as this sight is read by children alike I wont put on what i'd like to

TM4TJ is not gonna be very happy with you !! :018: see here :thumb04: just add him to the list

Reliably informed there was NO offer in January, it was nearer NOVEMBER, and as for the agent touting his names to other clubs,? is this not his JOB, seems someone knows what they are doing, even when it means to the detrement of our team, sounds to me as if Grassa or who ever is once again trying to cover their F*** Up. Back to what I have been saying, Blackie has said he WANTS to stay, so are we pulling out all the stops? Not F***** likely, we have blown it, Cowie well he said he would speak in January, we are almost there now, I think we all know we will loose them unless something is done PRONTO.

I have to agree IN PART, the board WILL have realised their mistake by now, BLACKIE< COWIE ....WILL....go in January and NOT at the end of the season, prospective clubs WILL put their offers in to take them away in January, and because we have F***** up YET again (Bennet), we will have to sell for a fraction of their worth, so where does this leave us then, dont tell me, I already know,oh and if it is not the DOF's fault then who's is it, he deals with the contracts, and if his strings are being pulled or reigned in, then dont we have a right to know.? Gillian I hope you are wrong about them both going in Jan, but I have a horrible feeling you may be right , if this does happen it will be a disaster for the club, losing our 2 biggest assest for next to nothing Ian knocked back contract offer today and 4 clubs interested in signing. Not heard anything yet, so where did this come from?

Perhaps it would be a better tactical decision to retain the OLD Barry Wilson UNTIL you find the new one or see whether the younger guys can "cut it" as you so eloquently put it. In fact, the more times I read over that statement, the angrier I am getting. time to go for a coffee before I post what I really want to say ...... the swear filter would have a field day ! Word perfect, but Barry is a huge threat to Brew, so no chance, how many more games are we too loose, before the board sits up and takes notice, once Brew is away, then, and only then, will they listen, Barry will be back, we need him.

the reality is we would or Brew and the board would stoop that low, we are pathetic, to treat someone of his stature this way is beyond belief, I cant believe ive just said that, that is what we are employing, he is beneath contempt. And can I say if Blackie and Cowie are the men I think they are they wont want to be a part of it, so who looses out Barry, the team and the fans, BREW I HOPE YOU CAN SLEEP TONIGHT< BECAUSE YOU ARE CAUSING ME TO HAVE SLEEPLESS NIGHTS< get out now, bow out gracefully and with some shread of decency and allow someone of a better CALLIBRE TO TAKE OVER. SORRY ABOUT THE SPELLING, SPELL CHECK NOT WORKING.

Even if that was the case do you not think it would have been worthwhile to keep Barry at the club in a coaching role? Stevico1, Barry is too much of a threat for Brew, he has shown that he is weak, knows nothing or has no man management skills, the players and fans alike respect Barry, he is ICT, and I for one believe he would see it as the honour it is to coach and eventually manage our beloved team, again something Brew lacks, though I also believe the Board will be pulling his strings, where will we be in January, I know, and I dont like it, GET RID OF BREW NOW AND KEEP BARRY Gillian the more these things are happening the more I fear that your prediction that black will leave in Jan will come true Stevico1, if only I could tell you, but believe me when I say, we are in one allmighty f***** mess, and I for one cant see away out of it, and if we loose Blackie and Cowie, well the rest is history, or should I say we are history, the quote earlier about reducing us hits home, certainly a ring of truth in it.

Even if that was the case do you not think it would have been worthwhile to keep Barry at the club in a coaching role? Stevico1, Barry is too much of a threat for Brew, he has shown that he is weak, knows nothing or has no man management skills, the players and fans alike respect Barry, he is ICT, and I for one believe he would see it as the honour it is to coach and eventually manage our beloved team, again something Brew lacks, though I also believe the Board will be pulling his strings, where will we be in January, I know, and I dont like it, GET RID OF BREW NOW AND KEEP BARRY

I believe it is just the surname, anyway you are right I do defend him as I do Cowie and Vigurs, I like, love, support, respect them, they are what I go to see every week, they are the nucleous of our team, we all know we need them, on the lighter side, we all know the players, management etc read these threads from time to time, so hopefully Blackie, Cowie, etc read this and take notice, Oh and I have been asked by my side kick (wee lass) to say that its not Blackie she is after, its his wee brother, (seen him at the games), says he's better looking and younger.?